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You might want to get an education first and learn about what is and what is not patentable.

You too might want to better your education and learn what a joke is before bashing other people's comments.
 
rule #1 learned in business school: never bash your competitors to promote your own product

Nokia doesn't know how to sell its products other than comparing it to the iphone 5, what a bunch of amateurs :rolleyes:

Not really a surprise. They (Nokia) are currently a Microsoft vassal. So of course the padawan is going to learn the tricks of the trade from its master.
 
OK Nokia, you win. Next time I'm asked to photograph a mixed fruit tartlet, at night, in ambient lighting, I'll trade in my iPhone 5 for your Lumia 925. Deal?
 
Nokia building for quality instead of quantity?! Hahahahahaha good one.

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The camera is better, yes, but the comparison picture are not fare, for example look at that kiwi. It is not at the same angle as the iPhone 5.
 
Making the iPhone 5S with a 12mp camera is not improving anything. It's making it worse. I don't need larger, crappy photos. Larger sensor, better optics are needed, not higher MP and another LED added to the flash.

exactly, i want a camera that takes sharp photos even when i standing shivering in Antarctica, those motion blur kills the 12MP, 16MP or whatever MP they have. phone cameras don't have tripods

Low lights photo should be improved. phone cameras are mostly used for casual photos where lighting is not appropriate or professionally done

i don't know what iphone 5s will have but i hope it to go in these directions.
 
Faster camera launching, higher dynamic range, less noise, faster focusing, etc.
THOSE are camera improvements, IMO.

Most of those are improvements the new Nokia camera brings. The high megapixel count isn't there just to give you really large crappy pictures. It, coupled with the large sensor, is used to oversample what you're taking a picture of, and collapse it down to a 5MP image without any noise. The higher dynamic range also comes into play with the higher resolution, since the camera can sample colors from much smaller areas of what you're taking a picture of. I think it's one of the reasons why it's able to produce such great low light shots.
 
As the old saying goes: The best camera is the one you have with you.

The point to Apple's commercial was that more people choose to carry iPhones than any other phone.

Unless Nokia can come up with a phone that more people want to carry, it's moot.

For me, a decent camera (as good as my compact) actually would be a reason to carry a Nokia instead of an iPhone. In fact, I almost bought a Nokia next time, but, there were too many complaints about Nokia's buggy 3G. If that problem is solved either in hardware or the new OS, I would go with Nokia because of the (relatively) great camera. (It still isn't a Nikon or Canon dSLR, but, Nokia's cameras have been as good as/better than most point and shoot cameras.) OBTW, it isn't just the number of pixels. Everybody knows that. A large number of pixels happens to be Nokia's implementation choice, but, there are objective quality comparisons on which these Nokia cameras excel.
 
Introducing the Nokia Luma ad: because we had to justify having such an oddly placed camera.

I always thought the placement of the camera on the iPhone 5 was odd. My fingers are always getting in the way. But I've never had that problem on my Lumia 920.
 
The only thing this commercial did for me is show me that I've been pronouncing Nokia incorrectly. I had no idea it was supposed to be "Nawk-ia."
 
Compared to the crap pics I took with my film cameras back before cell phone cameras, I'll take what my iphone does. I don't need 8000 mega pixels of my dog or of my dessert (which I don't do).

If I was going to Niagra Falls, the iPhone would work but my DSLR is the right tool.
 
Hipstamatic has made Nokia-only version of their Oggl app (their first ever non-iOS port) says something significant.

More than likely all this means is that Nokia paid Hipstamatic to make the app. I don't know that to be the case with this, but this sort of thing happens all the time and it is the only reason that I can think of why Hipstamatic would produce an app for a phone with such a small market share.
 
If I was Nokia I would sack the ad agency who produced this.

If you are selling a product that you believe is good at what it does - you sell it on those strengths. Simple.
Everyone knows Apple stuff is popular and all competitors are vying to get one over.
The smartest marketing here is to avoid the comparative road - call it 'bashing' if you will.

If the Nokia is really great then make an ad saying that - forget the comparisons. Get your potential customers into stores to check it out based on your great product and how it works - not how it works compared to X or Y brand. Otherwise its just 'sad' and shows the only way you can sell you product is by bashing the competition - that is not saying your product is better at all.
 
I look at it like this. The iPhone is the smartphone standard bearer. It's what everyone knows, it's what everyone likes, and what everyone expects. So when someone does something that far outpaces this standard, why not advertise it?

When it comes to the new Lumia, quantity does equal quality. It's a good, solid phone with a frankly amazing camera.

...shame about the apps, though.

But Nokia is claiming that Apple prefers quantity over quality. I don't think Apple makes camera decisions based on being able to sell more iPhones. Also, based on sales figures it seems that a really great camera isn't the biggest factor in a persons smartphone choice.

I think it's perfectly fine for Nokia to tout their camera over the iPhone's camera. But the quantity vs quality argument doesn't make sense to me.
 
Boring ad. Nokia could make it better.

Shooting naked girls in the dark where iPhone fails?
Capturing a fast paced UFO in the sky which comes crisp and clear on Nokia and blurred on the iPhone?
Making fun shots from a window of a high-speed train?.. In a dark tunnel?..

Looks like manufacturers get dumber these days just alongside their target audience.
 
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More than likely all this means is that Nokia paid Hipstamatic to make the app. I don't know that to be the case with this, but this sort of thing happens all the time and it is the only reason that I can think of why Hipstamatic would produce an app for a phone with such a small market share.

It's possible of course and why shouldn't they? Why it is all very well for people to want app developers to 'stay inside' their favourite OS eco system, I would think Hisptamatic were at a point like to increase their options outside the iOS world. The Lumina seems to be a high end product so its quite a good match.
 
rule #1 learned in business school: never bash your competitors to promote your own product


Nokia doesn't know how to sell its products other than comparing it to the iphone 5, what a bunch of amateurs :rolleyes:

Well the amateurs are the marketing department, advertisers and the executives that approved it

I'm sure the engineers are doing the best they can and doing a lot of overtime.
 
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