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Nokia Launches Lumia 925 Advertisement Bashing iPhone Camera
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Might want to follow the quote trail since bwillwall is the one that said it was supposed to be a joke.
Especially when Nokia's previous phone (the 920) is worse than the iPhone 5.
Actually, I think they are trying to come up with a better camera that just happens to have a phone in it.
...multiple times.
RULE NUMBER ONE, PEOPLE! IT'S ONLY BAD WHEN SOMEONE ELSE DOES IT!
Not really. How often did they mention the actual name of the competing brands? It was usually "I'm a PC" not "I'm a Dell Optiplex 150" or "I'm a ThinkPad." There is a difference being completely general about the market competitors and actually naming them (or their products).
I'm not saying Apple never mentioned a competing product, by name, in an ad (I don't know every ad piece they had created). But Apple pretty much never bashes competitors in ads. They tend to advertise against the general market, not any specific competitor.
I actually own both an iPhone 5 and a Lumia 920 (the 925 is supposedly at least somewhat better, though I haven't tried it myself) and I can tell you that the difference in image quality isn't insignificant. Even outdoors in good lighting. The difference in clarity between the two is pretty astounding. Pictures from a 920/928/925 absolutely could be used in place of a dedicated point and shoot camera (aside from the lack of zoom) but I'd have a really hard time feeling good about replacing a P&S camera with an iPhone 5. Its pictures are slightly blurry and very noisy in comparison.
When I post pictures from my 920 to flickr or Facebook, people don't believe me when I tell them they were shot on a phone.
One problem that Nokia has, though, is that there was a bug in the firmware of the 920 when it first shipped making all pictures too soft, so nearly all reviews on the Internet dog it for poor performance outdoors. That was fixed with a firmware update in December/January, and its images are always better (much better) than the iPhone since then.
And I have to assume that the 925 performs at least a little better than the 920. That's what all of the reviews are saying. And I can't justify dropping $600 just to test a slightly upgraded camera for myself.
When I post pictures from my 920 to flickr or Facebook, people don't believe me when I tell them they were shot on a phone.
One problem that Nokia has, though, is that there was a bug in the firmware of the 920 when it first shipped making all pictures too soft, so nearly all reviews on the Internet dog it for poor performance outdoors. That was fixed with a firmware update in December/January, and its images are always better (much better) than the iPhone since then.
And I have to assume that the 925 performs at least a little better than the 920. That's what all of the reviews are saying. And I can't justify dropping $600 just to test a slightly upgraded camera for myself.
When are these wannabes going to learn to go after phones that run the same OS? Everyone's always going after Apple, well guess what Samsung and Nokia, your phones DON'T RUN iOS!!
It might not be THE biggest factor, but it's certainly one. People buy smartphones for multiple reasons.
Though I'd say Apple sells more iPhones than the competition mostly because it's an established brand, has tons of mindshare, and people know they're getting something they can rely on when they pick it up. I don't think the general buying public thinks about features when they pick one up. They're just thinking "iPhone. It's good. I'll get it".
...which is why companies like Nokia need to make comparison/bash ads. When you're competing against something so entrenched, you have to show why your product is better than theirs.
Actually, I...uh...haven't watched the clip yet.
Though there is one big reason why Apple won't have a camera that competes with the Lumia anytime soon. Have you seen the 925 and 1020? They have those huge ass nubs at the top of the device so they can fit that equally huge ass sensor into the phone. Apple won't do anything to compromise the sleek stylings and design of their products, so their next camera will be more a decent iterative upgrade rather than a huge jump.
Well, I have iPhone 5 and I've got Lumia 925 from work - and Lumia is way better in low-light situations. Better than iPhone 5, better than Samsung Galaxy S4, even better than my point-n-shoot camera. I didn't even realise that low-light photos can be that good!
I'd use it as my main phone if it was smaller and had most of my apps - but it doesn't. Plus every single Nokia phone my friends or colleagues ever had - had to be replaced because of some hardware fault, so I'm a bit weary of anything Nokia.
I'd use it as my main phone if it was smaller and had most of my apps - but it doesn't. Plus every single Nokia phone my friends or colleagues ever had - had to be replaced because of some hardware fault, so I'm a bit weary of anything Nokia.
They did mention specific names a lot during their keynotes back in the day. "This is the best Dell money can buy vs a PowerMac G5..." "This is a sun server and an HP vs the all new Xserve...."
Edit: Although, they did bash Intel pretty good on TV in the 90s. Remember when they set fire to the Intel bunny man?
It's kinda spelled out in big block letters for you.
For a group of people who claim they're willing to spend a lot more to get the best product, some of you all are really quick to defend good enough to middling when someone else does something better.
Can you link me to where someone in this thread said apple has never done it?
RULE NUMBER ONE PEOPLE! BASH APPLE USERS AT ALL COSTS! MAKE THINGS UP IF YOU HAVE TO!
Please Don't
Why would you even think of it, Nokia?
Didn't you learn form your partner with its surfaces and pros.
Why would you even think of it, Nokia?
Didn't you learn form your partner with its surfaces and pros.
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When I lived in Sweden I heard it pronounced the way it was in the ad, but never heard it pronounced that way in the US before.
I don't believe that photo taken with the Nokia came out that clear without any post-processing (whether it was part of the camera taking process or manually added after). The difference between f/2.0 and f/2.4 apertures is not that huge. Of course, the size of the lens plays an important role too.
What I'm very sure is that the iPhone camera sucks in comparison to the EOS 5D!
What I'm very sure is that the iPhone camera sucks in comparison to the EOS 5D!
You do realize this will be too deep for most to understand?
It's easy to understand. It's called "spin" and is what people on this site to best when confronted with anything negative toward Apple.