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NOOOOO I gave in to scalpers
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Apple does have the band replacement program so those people will get to enjoy a watch and get a free band replacement anyway to the color of their choosing. Seems like it was a smart/lucky move to order what you can get versus waiting for the perfect one.
The very easy solution is to ask for the Apple ID that will be used with the watch and lock the device to that ID for 90 days.
That would solve the problem overnight and wouldn't harm legit buyers in anyway.
At least you didn't buy a 38mm white sport aluminum for $540 and cancel your 38mm SG Sport like my dumb friend did.
Read the thread.
I've read and contributed to the thread.
Unless you're a communist, there's no problem here.
Sure it would, I have 5 Apple ID's in my household alone. If I cannot transfer to one of my kids that is a problem.
Maybe you should read Apple's terms and conditions which explicitly state that their products are to be sold to end users only and are not being sold for the purposes of resale.
Don't try to besmirch others all while promoting an immoral activity.
Why would you need to do any transfers ..when you buy each watch you just fill in the Apple ID to be used with that particular watch.
If you can't sort out who will get what watch before you order them than that's your problem. The rest of the world shouldn't have to deal with scalpers because of an issue like that.
One clarification the Apple ID on the watch has to be the same ID that is on the paired phone. We ran into a problem because my wife and I share the same Apple ID for storage space reasons, and if someone sends digital touch to me, it goes to her too and vice versa. I guess that's Apple's version of swinging??
Look a little further out from your thought. For instance, say you decide that you don't like your Apple Watch 15 days after you get it (out of return window) and decide to let another family member have it. If it is locked to your Apple ID for 90 days a legitimate transfer cannot take place.
Has absolutely nothing to do with me sorting out who will get what before I order.
Then that would be my problem and I should have to wait the 90 days.
That's an extremely small price to pay if it means stopping scalpers.
There is absolutely nothing immoral in scalping. Amoral? Sure, but immoral? Not even slightly. It's taking advantage of the free market, something we already compliment others for on a daily basis. If scalping was immoral, then so would be business as a whole. All scalpers are doing is filling a hole in supply that Apple themselves created. Just because you don't personally like it does not mean it's wrong, illegal, or even immoral.
Entering into an agreement to buy something by representing you are the end user which is a clear condition of your order, when you are in fact not the end user and buying the device exclusively for the purposes of resale is a lie and hence immoral.
A "lie" by itself does not fall anywhere on the moral spectrum, as morality is defined by the situation and people involved. Something one person says is bad another could say is good. As morality is just the general view of what is good and bad, it is entirely dependent on the general population. From the posts here alone, there is no clear consensus it's "bad", therefore, it can't be immoral.
Furthermore, you are basing this whole thing off a company's terms of service, which are of themselves only determined by one entity. Since morality revolves around society's beliefs, something that goes against the ToS is not, by definition, immediately immoral. It's only if society believes that yes, it's bad, that it would be considered such.
I'm not going to get into a deep philosophical debate about morality on a forum, but suffice to say that it's not as simple as you're making it out to be. What people call "immoral" is usually more accurately described as "amoral", or lacking morality.
when something is amoral it is done from a neutral standpoint as for as morals are concerned ..and immoral act is one done with a knowing disregard.
Apple's Tos having been written by one entity is of no relevance and honestly that lie is only part of the reason why i find scalping immoral.
Here, the people who buy the device to scalp are immoral as opposed to amoral because they know what they are doing is wrong/can be viewed as wrong by some people yet they do it anyway.
and amoral scalper would be someone who does it without considering what others/society might think of his/her conduct.
Might be giving in as well I'm sitting at xx:06: for confirmation time and seeing all these orders placed past mine seeing movement has made me turn to craigslist. This person wants $550 for the exact watch I want 42 Space Grey Sport I emailed and offered $500 that's about $80 more so you be the judge if it's worth it or not. It is opened but only to be tested against the 38 they also got.
It does harm many types of legit buyers such as those who...
1. Are buying for someone else as a gift
2. Decide to let another member of the household use it
3. May have more than one Apple ID and may need to switch
Under your plan, if I got a watch but decided my wife needs it more, she'd have to wait 3 months to use it. Kind of a bogus restriction on something I paid full price for.
I think limiting to two per household and/or cc is already good, especially if they're verifying the addresses and matching them to the billing info on the credit card.