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ixodes
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Of all the Mac laptops & other Apple products I've owned, not once have I ever invested time running benchmarks. I do my research in advance, so as to choose the proper Mac model for my needs.
In turn I've enjoyed stellar performance, reliability and mostly fault free performance. Over two decades worth of work & personal use, Apple PowerBooks & MacBook Pros have served me well. As a result I've remained completely satisfied to this day.
In turn I've enjoyed stellar performance, reliability and mostly fault free performance. Over two decades worth of work & personal use, Apple PowerBooks & MacBook Pros have served me well. As a result I've remained completely satisfied to this day.
bawbac
macrumors 65816
If apple computers were "mostly fault free", the DOD, CIA & FBI would be using them for their primary computer.
Also, go look in any public safety, utility, industrial control or any place that requires reliable computers and you will NOT see an apple computer.
It amazes me sometimes the fantasy land some apple consumers live in.
Apple has a niche in music, photo and video productions but beyond that, they are just over priced easy to use computers for the average consumer to use for web browsing, emailing, social networking and light office work.
Even hardcore gamers who need serious performance know that an apple computer is insufficient.
Does it really matter? I know one thing the prime can't run, apps from the app store.
Tablets are a fairly new market and I honestly doubt there is going to be an android app that takes full advantage of the tegra 3 anyway because it cuts out many potential customers that use other android tablets.
I personally wouldn't use a tablet for any serious gaming anyway because the control options suck, I'd use a PC instead.
I have an android tablet as well so I don't suffer from Apple fanboyism, each has their own set of drawbacks and benefits.
The ipad does have a larger library of tablet optimized software and android doesn't have nearly as much. So what good is a super fast processor when developers are hardly developing for the android tablet market?
Bottom line, at this moment the tegra 3 speed is irrelevant until more developers take advantage of it.
Tablets are a fairly new market and I honestly doubt there is going to be an android app that takes full advantage of the tegra 3 anyway because it cuts out many potential customers that use other android tablets.
I personally wouldn't use a tablet for any serious gaming anyway because the control options suck, I'd use a PC instead.
I have an android tablet as well so I don't suffer from Apple fanboyism, each has their own set of drawbacks and benefits.
The ipad does have a larger library of tablet optimized software and android doesn't have nearly as much. So what good is a super fast processor when developers are hardly developing for the android tablet market?
Bottom line, at this moment the tegra 3 speed is irrelevant until more developers take advantage of it.
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I bought a HP Touchpad at the $100 firesale price.
That thing has similar specs to the iPad 2, but relative to it is complete joke in responsiveness, web browsing speed, etc. iPad 3 feels very quick, no complaints.
That thing has similar specs to the iPad 2, but relative to it is complete joke in responsiveness, web browsing speed, etc. iPad 3 feels very quick, no complaints.
ixodes
macrumors 601
To some outsiders it is hard to accept the facts as I've shared & enjoyed over the years.
At work, the cross platform engineering environment, where I also use Windows computers is just such a business. Unlike many pure Apple users I find Windows 7, especially, a very good OS. Yet in no way does it diminish the advantages & usefulness of OS X. We use both very successfully.
The reasons Windows is more prevalent has nothing to do with reliability. We have well maintained Macs & PC's that have a near equal reliability record. It's so close that it's irrelevant.
I'm not in a position to comment on your fantasy land. As a computer professional & multi-faceted engineer, all work I do is quantifiable & based on fact. Outsiders thoughts, opinions & speculation do not apply.
+1. Specs don't matter to most apple fanbois unless the apple product is the one with higher specs.
Sometimes people just don't get it. The only thing that matters is the user experience for everyday use. Content, be it games, utilities or whatever is a close secondary concern and a spec list makes zero difference vs whatever other hardware is available.
If I can turn on the device, find content I want and have it perform smooth and lag free. That's all that matters. Some people get it. The rest don't and will never be happy as they try to chase some notion that more spec is always better no matter if the OS your running lags, is full of bugs, no content and basically has sucked since its release.
Its rather sad but Google clearly is happy with mediocre software because it's cash flow is not affected. It's ads and revenue don't depend on making the OS better and it shows in the final product the put out.
If I can turn on the device, find content I want and have it perform smooth and lag free. That's all that matters. Some people get it. The rest don't and will never be happy as they try to chase some notion that more spec is always better no matter if the OS your running lags, is full of bugs, no content and basically has sucked since its release.
Its rather sad but Google clearly is happy with mediocre software because it's cash flow is not affected. It's ads and revenue don't depend on making the OS better and it shows in the final product the put out.
It really is amazing how times have changed, I grew up in a generation where computers were for nerds and at that time it was all about specs.
Now that computers are no longer considered for nerds only, the biggest interest is not what product has the most features but rather which is easiest to use.
The specs just don't matter much anymore and the ones who do care are usually gamers or a power user that wants to get the most for their money. (I fall under this niche and can accept that specs aren't as important anymore)
Now that computers are no longer considered for nerds only, the biggest interest is not what product has the most features but rather which is easiest to use.
The specs just don't matter much anymore and the ones who do care are usually gamers or a power user that wants to get the most for their money. (I fall under this niche and can accept that specs aren't as important anymore)
Pressure
macrumors 603
The iPad is v-synced at 60Hz, so the actual frame rate will never exceed 60 unless you run the off-screen tests, in which case it is clobbering time and iPad handily beats any competing Sytem-on-a-Chip out of the water.
Sure, Tegra 3 has four ARM Cortex-A9 cores implemented but they rarely do any good over a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 implementation.
PracticalMac
macrumors 68030
NOT!
Still same CPU, just better GPU.
Double the GPU to handle double the pixels.
Simple math.
Oh, and imagine how hot it will be if the CPU was also quad! Bad enough it is noticeably warm!
(more annoyed by the cellular service.)
scaredpoet
macrumors 604
Ahhh, how I long for the days when I had nothing else to do all day but run benchmarks on my hardware, and then go looking at articles to see how my benchmarks compared with other benchmarks.
Even if the new iPad smashed the Tegra 3 in every conceivable benchmark, ever, the response from the fandroids (as opposed to Android users who actually use their hardware to actually get work done) would be "just wait until the Tegra 4 comes out!" And then when Tegra 4 equipped Android tablets hit the market, they'd sit smug and pretty about it, until the new new iPad comes out sometime in 2013. And the cycle would continue.
Even if the new iPad smashed the Tegra 3 in every conceivable benchmark, ever, the response from the fandroids (as opposed to Android users who actually use their hardware to actually get work done) would be "just wait until the Tegra 4 comes out!" And then when Tegra 4 equipped Android tablets hit the market, they'd sit smug and pretty about it, until the new new iPad comes out sometime in 2013. And the cycle would continue.
It makes no sense to me to prioritize specs over user experience. Why aren't we all amazed that Apple can create a vastly better experience using less power, thereby making a more affordable product? If someone made a car that got awesome gas mileage and beat others in its class at 0-60mph and top speeds, all on a smaller, more efficient engine, we'd all call it great ingenuity.
Ooh! I have one of those, it's the Apple of cars: Volkswagen 😀. I'm currently driving the GTI which is more like an Apple than most other cars I've seen. Seriously speaking, specs and benchmarks are just analysis tools. The flat fact of the 2012 iPad is that it runs well and is a seamless experience with iTunes. There's a reason why people that move to a product that functions well, stick with it, and care about it.
iBighouse
macrumors 6502a
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This reminds me of so much of the "bigger is better" mentality that I see expressed so often by many. First of all they are comparing apples to oranges (no pun intended). Cram a tegra 3 chip into the iPad and see how well it performs with a retina display! And, more importantly, it's not always about raw speed anyway.
Reminds me of the whole "hot-rod/muscle-car/diesel-truck/Hummer" crowd boasting about their preferred ride outperforming or having a lesser carbon footprint than a Prius or Nissan Leaf.
A coworker who favored his racey Subaru laughed at my Prius when I got it and challenged me to a race. I agreed so long as I made the rules: One tank of gas- whoever goes the farthest wins....he declined the offer...and later sold his car for one a bit more gas-friendly.
This reminds me of so much of the "bigger is better" mentality that I see expressed so often by many. First of all they are comparing apples to oranges (no pun intended). Cram a tegra 3 chip into the iPad and see how well it performs with a retina display! And, more importantly, it's not always about raw speed anyway.
Reminds me of the whole "hot-rod/muscle-car/diesel-truck/Hummer" crowd boasting about their preferred ride outperforming or having a lesser carbon footprint than a Prius or Nissan Leaf.
A coworker who favored his racey Subaru laughed at my Prius when I got it and challenged me to a race. I agreed so long as I made the rules: One tank of gas- whoever goes the farthest wins....he declined the offer...and later sold his car for one a bit more gas-friendly.
