petvas
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Most of these tablets aren't cheaper. I won't judge if they are better as I think that the market has already spoken.
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Most of these tablets aren't cheaper. I won't judge if they are better as I think that the market has already spoken.
It's a little silly to blame the iPad for developers' slowness in releasing these apps, especially when overall it far outstrips the competition on total apps available. Even if you discount the 50-60% of iPad apps that are total crap.
za9ra22
macrumors 65816
This is quite silly really. Aside from the fact that it's not a '$900 device' but a $500 one, what the OP is criticizing is his own lack of skill in determining the most appropriate way to spend his own money in order to meet his own needs. Given Apple's well publicized stance on Flash it wouldn't seem likely that any additional complaints about the absence of it on iOS devices would make any difference at all. To borrow the analogy offered by another poster here, it's a bit like expecting Porchse to bend to criticism and offer a 7-seat 4-wheel drive 911 because someone would like a sports cars that can go seriously off road with the entire family in the back.
And even if we assume it's perfectly OK for people to blame the manufacturer when they discover that stuff they bought doesn't do what they want, only what the manufacturers says, it isn't as if the OP here could have been ignorant of the iPad's limitations after owning and using an iPhone. It won't help Apple change their mind over Flash when the arguments for it are made in a way that lacks any real credibility.
Market doesn't speak for quality. It speaks for popularity. If Toyota sells millions of camrys, doesn't mean that it is better than the rest.
petvas
macrumors 603
>OP gets verbally raped by fanboys for buying one of the most popular consumer devices
>buying one of the most popular consumer devices
>popular consumer devices...
>implying consumers should research
>buying one of the most popular consumer devices
>popular consumer devices...
>implying consumers should research
Bernard SG
macrumors 65816
The absence of a native Facebook App for iPad has nothing to do with approval process, it's just Zuckerberg & Co being silly brats and arguing that iPad is not a mobile device.
If it was an issue about privacy, there wouldn't be an iPhone FB app either.
ok, thank you all for the impressions.
you're right. i should had some investigation on my dads needs instead of just thinking about the easy-of-use interface. last days i found also that there's a psychological aspect here, my dads are less motivated to use the tablet since they know that many contents (videos) are unavailable, so they will prefer the easy-to-use TV..
you're right. i should had some investigation on my dads needs instead of just thinking about the easy-of-use interface. last days i found also that there's a psychological aspect here, my dads are less motivated to use the tablet since they know that many contents (videos) are unavailable, so they will prefer the easy-to-use TV..
iOS needs a refresh. No doubt about it. All other mobile platforms have social media integration (WP7 Is the best in this area to me) and its about time for it to hit iOS. Also, instant photo sync to Mobile Me is a must in the next refresh. They just need to make the cloud push hard and heavy with iOS 5.
Unfortunately, I bet we see some type of proprietary integration that will not please others. I can hear the griping already.
Unfortunately, I bet we see some type of proprietary integration that will not please others. I can hear the griping already.
Piggie
macrumors G3
I know why you think that, but actually I think people who feel this way are wrong.
I would imagine the vast majority of normal non computer people hardly even realise what Flash is. They bought a PC and flash was already installed, or they installed windows, visited a website one and it said they had to install it.
They sort of remember seeing a word like "Flash" some time ago, but never really knew what it was or why they needed it, they just clicked ok, and that was the last they remember.
They just turn their computer on and use it, they don't really know what makes things work. They are just happy being able to type some emails and print out some photo's.
They could buy and iPad from the TV adverts and not have a clue why it does not work when they visit their Flash website and when they press install flash on their iPad screen, as that's what it says in front of them, it does not work.
You can't "Ask the question" you see, if you don't know you have to ask a question in the 1st place.
As Apple say, Things should Just Work.
Piggie
macrumors G3
Oh dear, you still don't get it.
It's not the fault of the Internet that the iPad cannot play flash, it's the fault of the iPad that it doe snot have the power to play flash.
The issue is trying to be pushed into the wrong direction.
I know and understand WHY from a technical standpoint the iPad does not play Flash. Battery life and Machines power, though with iPad2 I think power may be less of an issue.
But that does not mean I'm going to swallow the line that it's not the iPad which is the problem area.
Luckily I do not have my mind clouded & distorted by years of Adobe hatred as some do 🙂
No.
Flash is a fatally flawed relic from an earlier era of computer history. Why would anyone want to pollute the safe, secure, and efficient iPad world with its toxic legacy?
Just last week, The Wall Street Journal had to rush to reconfigure their "Wikileaks"-type whistleblower site Safehouse, because it relied on Flash technology.
The internet is by now 98.5% "Flash-Free." Why would any sane person want to ruin the performance of the iPad, just so they can watch grainy porn videos and (try to) play crappy games on the 1.5% of sites that are too lazy or stupid to upgrade to a video and animation format appropriate to the modern era?
Bernard SG
macrumors 65816
Soooo... iPad 2 has or doesn't have the power to run flash?
Anyhow, how could the iPad be at fault when it's Adobe who has just not bothered to offer a decent solution to run Flash on iOS or for that matter, any mobile device?
Piggie
macrumors G3
If there is a new standard of format, which can offer everything Flash can, Video, Vector Animation etc etc, and it's a agreed upon new format that does all Flash can do using less power than Flash takes to display the same on-screen video/animation/effects, then sure, let's more forward to use the new thing.
But.......
Is there a new format that can do everything Flash can do, and use much less computing power, and has this new system been finished and agreed upon by everyone as the thing to move across to yet?
If the "new thing" does not yet exist, how can we junk the "old thing" ?
I look at is from a much further distance away.
You have data and you have a device that displays the data to the user.
If the data has been around and established for many years, and we the users have been using previous devices to view the data, then a new device comes out that cannot read part of this well established data, how is it suddenly the data's fault? The data existed long before the device was even thought of, and the people who make the device, knew the data was there.
But now, we don't blame the device, as it cannot read long existing data, it's the data's fault now apparently.
Fubar1977
macrumors 6502a
Most of your issues can be solved with appropriate apps and a little research.
An iPad is just a big shiny coaster until you put apps on it, if they gave you all the essential apps right out of the box there would be little incentive to buy more would there?
Lack of flash on iOS is hardly a big secret or even that big of a deal (for most).
Nice to see the whole thread descend into another flash debate tho...never seen that before 🙄
An iPad is just a big shiny coaster until you put apps on it, if they gave you all the essential apps right out of the box there would be little incentive to buy more would there?
Lack of flash on iOS is hardly a big secret or even that big of a deal (for most).
Nice to see the whole thread descend into another flash debate tho...never seen that before 🙄
Piggie
macrumors G3
Given that changing video over is the very least of the flash issues and converting to other formats. I don't know why YouTube is STILL heavy with Flash.
It's soooo annoying when I click on an email link or a link on a web site I get directed to YouTube and then told I can't play the video, so I have to remember the name of the video, load up the iPad's YouTube all, then do a search and hopefully manage to find the same video.
Such a pain.
As I said, seeing how video is the very very least problematic to change into another format, why, over a year later has nothing changed?
It's soooo annoying when I click on an email link or a link on a web site I get directed to YouTube and then told I can't play the video, so I have to remember the name of the video, load up the iPad's YouTube all, then do a search and hopefully manage to find the same video.
Such a pain.
As I said, seeing how video is the very very least problematic to change into another format, why, over a year later has nothing changed?
MonkeySee....
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henchman
macrumors 6502a
Flawed or not, it should be up to me, the user, to decide if I want to use it, or not.
I have the option on my Android phone to turn Flash on or off.
I RN into Flash based websites all the time, and it is very annoying.
Lets not pretend that omitting flash was a good idea.
If Jobs is so concerned about the uses webbrowsing experience, then why doesn't he do something about the abomination that is Safari?
Anybody else have the bug where after being redirected to a YouTube video, all you see when returning to Safari, is a white screen. Followed by a Safari force close.
Yeah. That's stable.
henchman
macrumors 6502a
spiderman0616
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Yep--and Friendly is a perfectly suitable stand in--in fact, it's probably more or less what an official Facebook app will look like anyway and probably less buggy.
petvas
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