I can easily see the MBP, MBA and iPad merge into one product someday. We can call it iMacBookAirPro.
Or maybe a better name would be iMacPad (or maybe not). I can also see iOS and OSX merging as this new product arrives.
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I can easily see the MBP, MBA and iPad merge into one product someday. We can call it iMacBookAirPro.
Or maybe a better name would be iMacPad (or maybe not). I can also see iOS and OSX merging as this new product arrives.
Wrong. A 100 dollar meal and a cheeseburger and chips from McDonalds are substitutable - they perform the same function. If you can't afford one, or if you are not willing to spend that much, you can buy the other. Retina MBP and Classic MBP are substitutable - if you don't want to pay for one, then you can buy the other.
A 32", 40", 50", 60" TV are substitutable. They perform the same function. Now many people don't want to be seen as wasters, so they buy what is cheaper than the most expensive or best. Consequence: Introducing the 60" TV increases your 50" TV sales.
Based on an incorrect understanding what "substitutable" means.
I can't be sure about either option, but what am I risking? Worst scenario - I'll buy Ivy Bridge 15". Simple as that.
But IMHO, keeping 15" cMBP makes more sense than keeping 13" model. They already have 13" Air as an entry model. For the same price you get nearly the same power, battery life, better LCD + a SSD as a standard. More value for the same money? I think yes.
But if Apple won't drop it, I hope they'll at least equip it with a decent resolution. 1280x800? That's a joke, the year is 2013, not 2007 for christ sakes! How How difficult could it be when even cheapo 11-inchers have 1366x768!?
I guess they'll update all remaining cMBP and keep selling them alongside Retinas for at least one more cycle. See, I'm an analyst!
The HD 5200 ( GT3 with eRAM) are going to hit higher price and TDP points. There probably be a few HD 5100 (GT3 without the eRAM) in the ultra low models, but Intel is still going to need a range of offerings at lower price points. Those lower price points will have HD 4600 and HD 4400 solutions (i.e., be GT2 based).
It is going to cost a pretty penny to get these higher performing GT3 solutions. That may keep them out of some Mac solutions (e.g. the Mac Mini or MBA 11" where the BOM budgets are lower).
I'm glad to see the cMBP continue. The 13" is a workhorse for my company, is simple to get quickly at the local store, then toss in 8GB RAM and a 240GB SSD from OWC just minutes away from us, and have a durable laptop that chugs away.
My new rMBP 15" is nice, but the deletions of the optical, and need for adapter for Gb wouldn't suit everyone.
My new rMBP 15" is nice, but the deletions of the optical, and need for adapter for Gb wouldn't suit everyone.
I know how user-upgradability can be useful. But Steve Jobs hated that, and it is not the way Apple is heading to. If user-upgradability is to be killed, so be it. I'm not sticking to legacy products just because I won't be able to upgrade the new ones. I'm disappointed at Apple because the new products cannot be upgraded, but there's not much I can do about it. Apple will eventually discontinue the user-upgradeable models, and then we're not going to be able to take advantage of all this versatility anyway.
With the displays, it's all personal preference. Sure, the Retinas are beautiful, but they are still quite glossy. The retinas are NOT 75% less glossy as Apple claims. They're more like 25% less glossy. To each is own. But being a professional photographer I'll take a "low resolution" 1680 x 1050 MATTE screen over a high resolution, highly reflective display any day. In fact I just did.
Actually, there are two different things. The matte display would be a welcome addition, and Apple may release a matte retina display in the future.
I can tell you that I prefer the retina display over any other display which is available on the market today (actually, I haven't yet checked the display on the Google Chromebook Pixel, which should be awesome as well). A very high screen resolution, sharper text and more real estate screen are more important to me than color accuracy, for instance. But then comes personal preference again.
I guess so. But it seems like that Apple wants to stop this kind of thing.
Yes, it does. Everybody seems to be mad at Apple because the new rMBPs don't have these features. But Apple doesn't seem to care about it. And especially about expandability.
I know. But just because they're located within the boundaries of the USA doesn't mean that they inherit the status of being part of the developed world (at least in terms of broadband internet) from LA or NY. And yes, that might be something worth resolving.
IIRC, DishNetwork or DirecTV had a reasonably priced broadband offering that works in rural areas.
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That quote is a bit off. And its doubtful Ford even said it. However Ford did seem to operate on those principles, which didn't bode well for his business as competition got stiffer.
This was the post in the thread that spawned the "demand" discussion.
Regardless, 4K does exist and seeing as its the next evolutionary step you can certainly have demand for it.
I already said that I don't doubt there will eventually be widespread adoption. However, it's not a technology that really screams "buy me now" to anyone other than the videophiles and those duped by the "experts" at best buy.
Tim: "We've got really great news for the Mac Pro this year. Guess what? We are discontinuing it."
Yes. Among other things, it means that a product has gone out of production:
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No longer produced or used; out of date.
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No worries there. There exist so few Macs that even if they all had that tech, it wouldn't really register with any large peripheral manufacturer.
You need not fear that Apple's inclusion or exclusion of any particular tech will move any peripheral markets.
Just look at Firewire, and now Thunderbolt. Apple doesn't really count much.
It will mean that iOS has almost caught up to Android. It will time for a celebration.
A lot of what these analysts do reminds me very much of the "cold reading" technique dodgy psychics use. Throw out a prediction, modify it a few weeks or months later, then change it again - basically cover all your bases. When one of your predictions is approximately correct, you can claim you got it right.
98% of the office productivity software market? 44% of the game console market? 95% of the computer OS market? Is that what you were looking for?
75% of the server OS market? Am I getting warmer?
No Retina MacBook Air = No MacBook Air for me.
Its that simple.
An 11" rMBA with an increased display size/reduced bezel and 16GB RAM is my ideal machine. Can't see it here before next year unfortunately.
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Let's hope they don't sink down on androids level, let's hope it will remain a good mobile OS.
it likely has more to do with power usage/heat dissipation than the ability to cram one in there. the mba has always been a tradeoff between what can passably work in the form factor without a significant compromise. its the same reasoning behind why they waited until the iphone 5 to add LTE... can get the chipsets for it to run cool enough and use little enough power to make it usable.
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your numbers are laughably off. show some sources. ive worked in data centers for six years and 75% of the server market is simply not true. probably more like 40%, M$'s licensing terms in server products make it prohibitively expensive to deploy their products unless you're an enterprise-level organization.
Yep!
Never obsolete because they are really solid and super reliable, my 17"mbp from 2006 is still running zippy and productively ! No notebook out there are as dependable, long lasting or more beautifully designed than mbps !!!
So excited for all of this!
Never obsolete because they are really solid and super reliable, my 17"mbp from 2006 is still running zippy and productively ! No notebook out there are as dependable, long lasting or more beautifully designed than mbps !!!
So excited for all of this!
What about Apple just fixing OSX 10.8. Make sure that it runs fluently and not with the insane hick-ups, back to 10.6 efficiency... And for the love of god: why is there no modern OpenGL implementation in OSX? What about just stopping other development of new fancy things and gimmicks, and just make sure that OpenGL is up-to-date.
And btw. no new Mac Pro equals ******** on Apple as brand. Even if they did not earn a **** on a new Mac Pro, it would still be a smart thing to do from a brand and market standpoint.
I'm very close to go with '**** Apple'. And I'm not alone in the crowd of Apple loyalist and media professionals who've been part of building the brand to one of the most valuable in the world... it's risky to **** us over, as we'll return the favour.
And btw. no new Mac Pro equals ******** on Apple as brand. Even if they did not earn a **** on a new Mac Pro, it would still be a smart thing to do from a brand and market standpoint.
I'm very close to go with '**** Apple'. And I'm not alone in the crowd of Apple loyalist and media professionals who've been part of building the brand to one of the most valuable in the world... it's risky to **** us over, as we'll return the favour.