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Notice to Developers: You Could Be Entitled to Between a $250 and $30,000 Payment From Apple

Vjosullivan said:
Yes, because you had no choice and no alternative. Apple's won't allow anyone else to host an App Store on "their" phone (that you think you own).
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I have lots of alternatives to sell apps. I can sell fully functional apps and games on Steam, Google Play, or directly in the browser so you and use and play directly in the browser. Steam is also 30%. Selling directly and via Epic is still the most expensive by far but you can do it.

If I am targeting iOS directly I can sell on the App Store knowing well in advance what fees I'll pay or I can sell a web app and work out ahead of time all the costs involved.

I am not beholden to Apple's rules and never have been. And at least I let my work stand on its own, these two developers failed and became millionaires from it.
 
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carlsson said:
I still don't understand this.
1. I provide a platform that you can rent for 30% of your earnings on this platform.
2. It's optional.
3. You sue me because I'm too expensive?

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3. Nope, 'we' sued you because the apps failed in the market.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lil-babynames/id1015004770
https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/pure-sweat-basketball-workouts/id891692081


These numpties wrote some crap and instead of learning from their mistakes and trying again they just sued. Fair enough, they paid Apple the $99 a year and it doesn't seem like they have ever earned enough to even cover that... until now because why try when you can sue.
 
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MacRumors said:

Who is eligible for a payment from Apple?

According to law firm Hagens Berman, which brought the lawsuit against Apple in 2019, the class includes any current or former U.S. developer of an iOS app that earned less than $1 million through the U.S. App Store in paid downloads and/or in-app purchases/subscriptions per calendar year between June 4, 2015 and April 26, 2021.


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Article Link: Notice to Developers: You Could Be Entitled to Between a $250 and $30,000 Payment From Apple
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I am little confused.
Is the cut off line at 1 million?
The table also listed over 1 million though?
 
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jwcdis said:
Developers really sold themselves off short with only a 100 million dollar payout.

I mean come on, the highest earning tier at $1,000,000 a payout of $30,000 (3%).
The payouts are only really benefiting that 1 cent to 100 dollar tier.
If this new steering rule squashes the 30% Apple Tax fight, Apple will be laughing their way to the bank

Meanwhile Tim Cook gets a 750 million stock payout
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You mean a minimum of 30,000 that they shouldn’t get anyway? Yeah. 😂
 
This was all from crybaby developers and ambulance chasing lawyers. Pure garbage. A 30% charge is more than fair. Retail stores are more like 50-100% upcharge! Apple created this whole mobile app market and made individual mom and pop developers millionaires. Now these same developers partner up with ambulance chasing lawyers! Disgusting. I almost wish apple shuts down their whole store to make the developers broke.
 
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bobenhaus said:
Yeah morally bankrupted because $pple squeezed every percentage out of them until they got caught.
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The two developers here failed to make sales so they sued instead of developing better. Apple now has to pay them and their lawyers instead of these people having to go back to the drawing board. One, the developer of Lil' BabyNames complained that they couldn't pick a price tear lower than $0.99 but yet are trying to sell it for $2.99. They didn't need to build an app for this, it could have been website. These guys failed to cash in on the app bubble so they just sued instead of developing better.

Edit: http://support.lilbabynames.com doesn't even maintain the support site for his own app anymore.
 
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Nick_P said:
This was all from crybaby developers and ambulance chasing lawyers. Pure garbage. A 30% charge is more than fair. Retail stores are more like 50-100% upcharge! Apple created this whole mobile app market and made individual mom and pop developers millionaires. Now these same developers partner up with ambulance chasing lawyers! Disgusting. I almost wish apple shuts down their whole store to make the developers broke.
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Well put. People think the App Store runs cost-free for Apple. Yet they handle so much behind the scenes people take for granted with respect to operational costs and promotion. Further, people don't understand that Apple as a business needs to make a profit on top of those costs, as all companies do on services and goods.
 
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Vjosullivan said:
Yes, because you had no choice and no alternative. Apple's won't allow anyone else to host an App Store on "their" phone (that you think you own).
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Sure there was a choice - don’t develop for iOS. And there was an alternative - develop for Android or some other platform.

People keep talking like the iPhone and its ecosystem is some natural resource that should be managed by the government for the good of all people. It’s not. It’s something that Apple has built from the ground up, at great expense, and it’s their thing to do with as they see fit. If you don’t like how Apple runs it, vote with your wallet by moving to another platform.
 
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CarlJ said:
Sure there was a choice - don’t develop for iOS. And there was an alternative - develop for Android or some other platform.

People keep talking like the iPhone and it’s ecosystem is some natural resource that should be managed by the government for the good of all people. It’s not. It’s something that Apple has built from the ground up, and great expense,Manx it’s their thing to do with as they see fit. If you don’t like how Apple runs it, vote with your wallet by moving to another platform.
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"I'm suing because this Chevy Nova seat I bought won't fit into my Kia Sedona! Nowhere in the manual did it say specifically that Chevy Nova seats won't fit into the Sedona, and I never agreed to that! Kia left me no choice of what kind of seat I could install, and they should be punished!"
 
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DesertDrummer said:
omg those apps are such garbage. Those look like they were made with "app builder" beginner tools.
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But now those devs have walked away with more than they could ever earn on that garbage. It is mind boggling when the bad guys win. This isn’t a David vs Goliath, it’s two developers that didn’t make anything good enough to be successful so they sued. Even Epic have a better case, at least they put in effort to be successful.
 
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dogslobber said:
Apple's extortion racket is starting to crack. You can't shake down developers for 30% anymore by ARM twisting them into only selling through the Apple store.
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An extortion racket that you have to willingly choose, sign up for, read an agreement about, and pay an annual subscription fee to participate in. Yeah, real mafia s**t here.

I'm an actual app developer. Are you? If you're not, maybe don't speak for us.
 
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I decided to pull out of Apple's App Stores over the 30% cut in 2014. I get nothing since this only covers people who had apps in at least 2015.

Also, I'm really disappointed that a settlement was accepted. We need court to clearly rule what is/isn't okay not just to put a bandaid on the iOS App Store, but to make sure all stores are fixed and to reduce the odds of repeating these kinds of issues.
 
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ArtOfWarfare said:
I decided to pull out of Apple's App Stores over the 30% cut in 2014. I get nothing since this only covers people who had apps in at least 2015.

Also, I'm really disappointed that a settlement was accepted. We need court to clearly rule what is/isn't okay not just to put a bandaid on the iOS App Store, but to make sure all stores are fixed and to reduce the odds of repeating these kinds of issues.
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Of course they settled. These two entities that made failed apps wanted paid and they got paid. Now instead of not even making or perhaps generously just making the $99 entry, they have taken millions as congratulations for their failure to make better apps and market them.
 
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DesertDrummer said:
An extortion racket that you have to willingly choose, sign up for, read an agreement about, and pay an annual subscription fee to participate in. Yeah, real mafia s**t here.

I'm an actual app developer. Are you? If you're not, maybe don't speak for us.
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People who pay protection money to keep their shop from getting the windows panned in every week willingly do so too. Clearly you don't speak for those who sued Apple and won.
 
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ArtOfWarfare said:
I decided to pull out of Apple's App Stores over the 30% cut in 2014. I get nothing since this only covers people who had apps in at least 2015.

Also, I'm really disappointed that a settlement was accepted. We need court to clearly rule what is/isn't okay not just to put a bandaid on the iOS App Store, but to make sure all stores are fixed and to reduce the odds of repeating these kinds of issues.
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Why did you even sign up? 😆
 
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