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What does this have to do with Apple rumors? Stupid. Apple has repeatedly said they aren't making a tablet and rumor after rumor has proved false.
 
You obviously don't get tablets at all. And that's ok, not everyone gets a new tec revolution, that's why apple is single (almost) in consumer innovation, that's why 99.999% don't get it, and 0.001% have the vision.

It's their form factor, the book form that introduces the real revolution (let alone that a "netbook" with an atom is joke of a machine) here, no way to hold a netbook like a newspaper or magazine or book and read it.

It's ok, I'm not the only one not getting them seeing how Archos, Nokia and other tablet makers can't seem to sell them in good quantities either.

The book form factor is good for a book. And at 600$, i'd rather buy a 10$ paperback edition that will at least last a few tens of years.
 
And while I am on the issue from innovation, let me post a link to that immensely moronic site engadget to demonstrate the supreme counter innovativeness of microsoft in terms of multi touch user interface:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/17/hot-virtual-keyboard-for-windows-7-is-hot-virtual-multitouch/

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What's most ridiculous is the way the writers and users at engadget laud this thing, and the unbelievable adulation such a completely unimaginative ui gets.

"Thought that multitouch support in Windows 7 was only good for putting twice the smudges on your screen in half the time? Here's the app that makes all those blemishes worthwhile."

I mean, this has GOT to be ironic...this has got to be joke, right?

(And wait a sec, didn't ms have a virtual keyboard in xp too, and before?). To add insult to injury they even charge for that $40. The gall they have...

P.S. Also note the big ctrl-alt-del on top of this thing (the reset button so to speak for windows users to get them out of a system freeze say), probably the most important button on a windows system...this again, has got to be ironic....
 
no one else who dislike these small white "legs"?

also the renderings seem to be not consistent.
3 legs visible:
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no legs visible:
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So thats how an oversized, overpowered mobile phone looks like,...

Anyone has an idea about the cam? it does not say front or back facing, so either one will be missing!
 
It's ok, I'm not the only one not getting them seeing how Archos, Nokia and other tablet makers can't seem to sell them in good quantities either.

The book form factor is good for a book. And at 600$, i'd rather buy a 10$ paperback edition that will at least last a few tens of years.

Archos and Noki are not apple. With a 15 year lead on mobile platforms, apple blew nokia away in the smart phone business. But why don't you mention how e-ink devices sell, like the kindle? Let me tell you they sell great. Because the 10 paperback which will last you tens of years (some kind of super paperback paper I guess with no wear and tear, that you of course leave on your library in a teflon coat everyday) pales in front of a $600 tablet that can host ANY book on the globe, ever written, and ANY of websites and news, and books, online...actually the content this will be able to have will take you a billions and billions of years if you ever decide to read it all.

There's of course so much more to that, and I won't go into it here, suffice to say, that I am SURE that in a very short time apple will make you want to buy this and use it more than anything. Trust me on this. We are here anyway, and we 'll hopefully be here to see that in a few months.
 
Archos and Noki are not apple. With a 15 year lead on mobile platforms, apple blew nokia away in the smart phone business.

Wait, Apple blew Nokia away ? By having 1/3 their market share ? I'm sure Nokia feels really "blown away" by a 3rd rate competitor (RIM is in 2nd place with half of Nokia's market share).

Seriously, come back when Apple is 1st in market share with Nokia a distant second. Until then, we can hardly talk about blowing anything away. :rolleyes:

But why don't you mention how e-ink devices sell, like the kindle?

The Kindle is not a 600$ Internet tablet that also happens to be a e-reader, mobile gaming device and PMP. That's what the Apple tablet is rumored to be and what Archos, Nokia and others sell.

The Nook and Kindle are affordable devices to read books (I'd still rather buy a 10$ paperback edition, there's just something about reading a book off of paper).

Apple is not god. They usually don't invent markets, they just provide very solid products in already popular ones. The iPhone is a good cell phone and seeing how cell phones were already very much in demand, it made sense. Same for PMPs, the 128 MB flash devices were selling like hotcakes, the iPod made sense and brought HD devices into the game (the previous Creative Nomad was huge and wasn't that great for its price).

I think this is very much why the tablet remains a rumor. The tablet market just isn't that hot. Tablets aren't a big seller and don't have that many uses that cellphones or laptops don't already cover. It's a very small niche between those devices.
 
But why don't you mention how e-ink devices sell, like the kindle? Let me tell you they sell great.

How do you know that when Amazon won't release their Kindle sales numbers? Sure, they say they're happy with sales (as any PR person would for any product), but who knows what that means. Kindle is a great idea with clumsy execution. Ugly design (granted, individual tastes), quirky and slow UI, no color, single-use device, not usable internationally on cel net, no native PDF support, and overpriced (again, this is subjective, but it's a pretty much universal complaint in almost every review). As I said, it's a great idea and I'm glad it's available. But they left a lot of room for Apple or someone else to come in and blow the Kindle away.
 
Wait, Apple blew Nokia away ? By having 1/3 their market share ? I'm sure Nokia feels really "blown away" by a 3rd rate competitor (RIM is in 2nd place with half of Nokia's market share).

Seriously, come back when Apple is 1st in market share with Nokia a distant second. Until then, we can hardly talk about blowing anything away. :rolleyes:



The Kindle is not a 600$ Internet tablet that also happens to be a e-reader, mobile gaming device and PMP. That's what the Apple tablet is rumored to be and what Archos, Nokia and others sell.

The Nook and Kindle are affordable devices to read books (I'd still rather buy a 10$ paperback edition, there's just something about reading a book off of paper).

Apple is not god. They usually don't invent markets, they just provide very solid products in already popular ones. The iPhone is a good cell phone and seeing how cell phones were already very much in demand, it made sense. Same for PMPs, the 128 MB flash devices were selling like hotcakes, the iPod made sense and brought HD devices into the game (the previous Creative Nomad was huge and wasn't that great for its price).

I think this is very much why the tablet remains a rumor. The tablet market just isn't that hot. Tablets aren't a big seller and don't have that many uses that cellphones or laptops don't already cover. It's a very small niche between those devices.

Talk to us in 12 months when Nokia sees its profits tank with the iPhone, RIM and Android sucking it dry [mainly the iPhone platform].
 
How do you know that when Amazon won't release their Kindle sales numbers? Sure, they say they're happy with sales (as any PR person would for any product), but who knows what that means. Kindle is a great idea with clumsy execution. Ugly design (granted, individual tastes), quirky and slow UI, no color, single-use device, not usable internationally on cel net, no native PDF support, and overpriced (again, this is subjective, but it's a pretty much universal complaint in almost every review). As I said, it's a great idea and I'm glad it's available. But they left a lot of room for Apple or someone else to come in and blow the Kindle away.

That are my opinions too of the kindle, you 've misunderstood my point which was that the tablet, form factor, is, indeed selling, and is a desired commodity.
 
I am happy with the direction that this is going. 1 has to wonder if the rumors are what spurred companies to try and re-do the tablet. I mean, there are already decent tablets for the users that NEED them. There just is not an official Apple tablet.
 
Fixed that for you.



Except for the fact that there are dozens of tablets already on the market. Guess why you never see anyone around with them.

You seem to assume that these new devices, whether from Apple or somebody else, are going to perform exactly like the existing ones. These are not going to be tablets as we currently know them, they're likely to be more like Star Trek's 'Padd.'
 
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What exactly will this do that a netbook can't???

What exactly can a netbook do that a notebook can't???

The differences are preferences.
 
So now macrumors puts non-shipping potential competitors to unannounced and theoretical Apple products on its front page?

Why not start adding Dell reviews and HP announcements? At least those things actually ship and compete against actual Apple products.
 
"2010 Year of the Tablet," was that not some years ago. :confused:

Seriously why even bother stating its the year of the _________. Even Steve Jobs cannot predict what the year will be and hold, he has been wrong multiple times on this statement.

Not sure what the excitement is regarding a tablet, I mean many vendors have done this and eventually discontinued it for poor sales reasons. Amazon will continue selling the Kindle as they are trying to mimic what :apple: has done with the original iPod and iTunes. Amazon sells e-books and the Kindle is there to support it, having other vendors products viewable on the Kindle is just a bonus. Amazon might or might not be losing much on the Kindle, since if they were it would not be produced and continue to sell.

Who knows the various items required for a successful are and might be available in the future and :apple: is waiting till things come together, however I am having a hard time trying to fit a tablet into my daily computing lifestyle. Between a desktop, laptop and a mobile device where does this tablet advance that the rest in the lineup do not.

I am not in the market for a tablet so my logic is not in favour, then again it does not bother me if this is released in the next couple months or a couple years if at all. ;)
 
Except both those markets were already big hits in and of themselves. They entered markets where there were tons of opportunity. The problem with tablets is that... well.. they don't sell well and aren't very popular. If Apple does make a tablet, it will have to really be something to fit in that niche between a laptop and a PMP while being better than a netbook.

MP3 players weren't that big when the iPod launched with really little to no exposure outside the geekland and it's fringes. Similar smartphones have really been limited to RIMing businessmen only a few short years ago.

Again tablets nice idea lots and lots of bad of implementations. Do these guys or Apple or anyone else have the magic formula to mark it work?
Well I'm going to wait till I have one in my hands to decide.

The advantage Apple has over these guys, is they are media darlings. Apple release something in this space then they will get coverage on every mainstream media outlet not just the tech ones. Even the MSN ones with presenters trying to badmouth the device and hide the look of glee at the same time.
 
I really hope apple releases a tablet!!

Agreed, so the rumours can finally end and we can all put to rest if it will be a hit or miss. :D

What exactly can a netbook do that a notebook can't???

The differences are preferences.

It seems over the years the screen size on NetBooks are increasing to encroach on Laptop territory, so the line is blurry when comparing a NetBook to a Laptop 13." Netbooks are underpowered and I know I own one, most of the people who use it want to use a bigger screen since starring at a 10" screen is not comfortable. I personally have no problems with its size. :)

So now macrumors puts non-shipping potential competitors to unannounced and theoretical Apple products on its front page?

Why not start adding Dell reviews and HP announcements? At least those things actually ship and compete against actual Apple products.

"MacRumors" should change its name to "TechRumours" or "Possible:apple:Competition." This article should be Page 2 and even that is stretching it. :p
 
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