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Notion Ink Smartpad 10.1 inch Tablet Announced Ahead of CES

KnightWRX said:
Yes, they have been, because smartphones don't exist. There is no industry standard that differentiate a smartphone from any other phone.

That was the very point of my post. Your 8 year old kyocera, my 5 year old Sony Ericsson, they were all as capable as smartphones today.

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BUt see, 9 years ago, there WAS a difference. The only way you could do those things was with a "smartphone". Times have blured that line, but even if it's just the carriers that maintain the "sides of the fence" - the line still exists.

I've yet to use a non-smartphone that i'd like to do web & email on. Heck, i didn't particularly enjoy them on my Treo (which is one reason i don't mind not having data on it right now). There is a difference from what i have seen in my use.

But you are the one that said Apple made up the term, and/or that it was a made up marketing term from the past 2 years. My point was that um, NO they didn't. That marketing game started longer ago than that....

More features meant carriers could charge more money. Still does.

And i remember the joy 14 years ago being able to "dial-in" to work from the lake. That Motorola Flip thing got signal there (and AT&T didn't back then), and that like 2400 baud connecton meant i could enjoy a weekend and solve any crisis that needed to be solved. Life was good.....

But after all the phones I and various family members have used over the years - the iPhone/Touch (i have a Touch) is the most user friendly to do these things on....

Anyway..... i have use for 2 or 3 of the rumored Apple Tablets - even if they are just bigger Touch's.
 
Defining a smartphone is like defining porn...

KnightWRX said:
Yes, they have been, because smartphones don't exist. There is no industry standard that differentiate a smartphone from any other phone.

That was the very point of my post. Your 8 year old kyocera, my 5 year old Sony Ericsson, they were all as capable as smartphones today. A treo wasn't any better than Sony Ericsson's cheap OS or Nokia's bland phones that still did everything. It doesn't matter that the iPhone is easier to use than a 4 year old phone. It doesn't matter that it has more apps. It's still just a phone with Web, e-mail, apps and games. Nothing different than what was on the market before it came along.

The wikipedia page puts it best :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone



So please, pretty please, with a cherry on top, stop posting all that nonsense about smartphones.



At least someone here isn't too high on the kool-aid to get it.
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In 1964, Justice Potter Stewart tried to explain "hard-core" pornography, or what is obscene, by saying, "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced . . . ut I know it when I see it . . . "


...and most persons know a smartphone when they see one!

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There were a lot of people on treocentral.com forums that insisted the iPhone 2G wasn't a smartphone at the time. They were probably right, at least until it got apps.

Calling something a smartphone is irrelevant. It's just a word, like "organic" when applied to food, that has no meaning.
 
dicklacara said:
...and most persons know a smartphone when they see one!

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And this is exactly why we get reports like "46% of smartphones in Japan are iPhones". Because "most persons" know a "smartphone" when they see one right ?

The fact that 3m is considered 46% would mean there's 6m smartphones in Japan... in a market where there's over 100m active cellphones in existance and some of the more featureful phones exist...
 
KnightWRX said:
And this is exactly why we get reports like "46% of smartphones in Japan are iPhones". Because "most persons" know a "smartphone" when they see one right ?

The fact that 3m is considered 46% would mean there's 6m smartphones in Japan... in a market where there's over 100m active cellphones in existance and some of the more featureful phones exist...
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Just about every cellphone in Japan is a smart phone!
 
KnightWRX said:
So you're saying that Apple has sold 46m iPhones there... seeing the 46% figure...

Thanks for proving my point.
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I dont know, I wasnt really reading your conversation. Just when I was in Hapan, I had a look through a DoCoMo place and every phone was like... really good. Like what we class a smart phones in the West, was like low end. @_@
 
KnightWRX said:
Yes, they have been, because smartphones don't exist. There is no industry standard that differentiate a smartphone from any other phone.
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Lots of descriptive terms have no industry standard. Lots of terms have changed usage over time, including the term "computer" (which used to be a job description, not a chunk of hardware). Just because a standard does not exist does not mean that products don't exist that meet at least one current usage of the term, even if it's not the definition or usage you prefer.

Personally, as an app developer, I would not currently call a cell phone a "smartphone" unless there was a published API and a supported app SDK to which large numbers of independent developers had access. Thus, I stuck with my PalmOS Treo until iPhoneOS 2.0 was announced, which allowed the iPhone to be "smart" enough for development (on stock-OS devices).

Just like you might call your Mac or PC a computer (because many can write software for it), but your car's door is not usually called a computer (even though some new cars might have several computer chips inside each door, but you can't program them).
 
MacRumors said:



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Rendering of Unreleased Notion Ink Tablet
It seems 2010 is going to be the year of the tablet with or without Apple. While Apple is rumored to be pursuing the market later in the year, other consumer electronic companies aren't going to wait and see. A number of non-Apple tablet announcements are expected at CES this year with Notion Ink's announcement arriving a bit prematurely.

Details of Notion Ink's "Smartpad" tablet was released by Slashgear today and carries an impressive spec sheet. The 10.1" sized device also is one of the first to use Pixel Qi's 3qi screen we detailed as a possible candidate for the Apple tablet. The specs for the unreleased device can give you an idea of what might be possible in an upcoming Apple tablet:

- 6.3 x 9.7 x 0.6 inches
- 1.7 lbs
- WiFi b/g, Bluetooth, UMTS/HSDPA (3G)
- Digital Compass, Accelerometer, Proximity, Ambient light, Water sensors
- USB, HDMI, 3-megapixel autofocus camera, Video Recording
- 32GB SSD, SD Slot
- Android OS with Gesture Support.
- 1024x600 Pixel Qi display
- 48 hrs standby battery, 8 hrs HD video playback, 16 hrs internet surfing over WiFi

No price was given, and the system appears to be based on the NVIDIA Tegra T20 chipset. The Pixel Qi display which we detailed in the past is said to offer significant power savings to these portable devices as well as clear viewing in sunlight.

Apple is rumored to be bringing a tablet of roughly the same size to market later in 2010. Apple's version is expected to be based on the iPhone operating system.

Article Link: Notion Ink Smartpad 10.1 inch Tablet Announced Ahead of CES
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Wow, these specs are awesome. I think Apple may be too late. This is exactly the Tablet that I haver been hoping for from Apple. I fear that Apple is beginning to loose their technology edge.
 
paja said:
Wow, these specs are awesome. I think Apple may be too late. This is exactly the Tablet that I haver been hoping for from Apple. I fear that Apple is beginning to loose their technology edge.
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It runs MS-DOS 3.1.

Still "exactly the Tablet that you have been hoping for?"

No?

So, I guess software and ecosystem might matter more than hardware specs?
 
firewood said:
Personally, as an app developer, I would not currently call a cell phone a "smartphone" unless there was a published API and a supported app SDK to which large numbers of independent developers had access. Thus, I stuck with my PalmOS Treo until iPhoneOS 2.0 was announced, which allowed the iPhone to be "smart" enough for development (on stock-OS devices).
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Sony Ericsson had a SDK that was accessible to anyone, with a phone emulator, that let you make apps for its different phones, following the standards of J2ME plus documented extensions (all documentation was available on their dev site back in 2004). This is long before the Xperia lineup, long before any kind of "smartphone" came out of them.

So I get it that you don't follow the traditionnal definition of a smartphone then, since for you, it's a phone with an SDK, which is quite larger than the "current definition" (that's the point, there is no current definition of a smartphone) as you put it.

Again, everyone who tried to prove me wrong in the end made my point for me. The only current accepted definition of a smartphone I can think of is this :

"A smartphone is our smartphone + any other very small subset of our competitor's phones that we can use to make our sale numbers look bigger than they are when using percentages".
 
*LTD* said:
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I've often imagined him to be a malformed Bartlett.

Apple was way too late for entering the MP3 market, as they were 14 years late in entering the 'smartphone' arena.

Being that these 'concept videos' have yet to be seen as tangible reality, Apple might actually be entering the game relatively early, this time.
 
Fanboyism again

applesupergeek said:
With a 15 year lead on mobile platforms, apple blew nokia away in the smart phone business.
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That is a pretty ridiculous statement.

Bubba Satori said:
...Speaking of innovation, did you hear that iPods are getting FM tuners? :cool:
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That is nothing! Macs are getting Bluray by 2016 and basic iPhones will get a video camera by the time that even the cheapest mobile phones will have one!
 
paja said:
Wow, these specs are awesome. I think Apple may be too late. This is exactly the Tablet that I haver been hoping for from Apple. I fear that Apple is beginning to loose their technology edge.
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Some of these specs seem to be overkill, otherwise this thing gonna be expensive. For example, SSD is not necessarily a best choice if you gonna keep a lot of movies and music on it. iPod classic's hard drive is a better choice. There is also a question of is Nvidia chipset being a correct choice (it might be, just a rhetorical question).

Bluetooth keyboard for iTablet is good thing, however, as with it you have great input option. I wish it to be very small, however or thin and being able to stack with the iTablet, behind under it. In that case, its really a slider hehe
 
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