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Now Nokia is having a go at Apple over the Death Grip

MH01 said:
Seems Nokia is having a cheap shot at Apple over the whole Death Grip.
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And rightly so.

If I had told you a week ago that the new iPhone was going to have an issue like this and that the reply would be 'hold it a different way' you wouldn't have believed it.

Nobody would have.
 
Head to head, they normally don't fare very well. They have to take their shots when they can and take advantage of any opportunity. It won't help.
 
diabolic said:
Head to head, they normally don't fare very well. They have to take their shots when they can and take advantage of any opportunity. It won't help.
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Not in the US, but globally Nokia has about a 40% share of the mobile market. (depending on which figures you read - some have them at just under 35%)
 
You know, I personally hate Nokia, but keeping in mind that Apple based their whole OS X ad/media campaign on picking out Windows Vista mistakes, I say good for Nokia, I'm all for it.

BTW, in no way am I implying that this is Apple's Vista.
 
Nieval said:
You know, I personally hate Nokia, but keeping in mind that Apple based their whole OS X ad/media campaign on picking out Windows Vista mistakes, I say good for Nokia, I'm all for it.

BTW, in no way am I implying that this is Apple's Vista.
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Fair point. The Get a mac ads where very smug
 
After years of "I'm a Mac / I'm a PC" I don't see how ANYONE can complain about stuff like this.

Totally fair. Good for them.

(And I am, as you say, a super Apple Fanboi who will never give up his iPhone! So if I'm saying this, it really means something.)
 
I wouldn't say this is a representation of the whole company of Nokia, just one of their bloggers using Ovi suite...

Also Nokia has never sold 1.7 million on a release ever, but I'm pretty sure they sold 20 million units of a cell phone [Nokia 2100] (first really cheap cell phone for public use)

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Although it is "fair" it's also kind of dumb.

Now people are coming out of the woodworks with videos of Nokia phones doing the same thing.

Is the iPhone's problem worse than theirs? Yeah, probably. But before this all the bad press was going Apple's way. By sticking their neck out Nokia gonna get sucked into the coverage too.

So while it's "fair" of them to critisize Apple, it would have been smarter of them to just shut up and watch Apple get beat up.
 
Small White Car said:
Although it is "fair" it's also kind of dumb.

Now people are coming out of the woodworks with videos of Nokia phones doing the same thing.

Is the iPhone's problem worse than theirs? Yeah, probably. But before this all the bad press was going Apple's way. By sticking their neck out Nokia gonna get sucked into the coverage too.

So while it's "fair" of them to critisize Apple, it would have been smarter of them to just shut up and watch Apple get beat up.
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Nokia shouldn't even shut up, Apple has stolen and been sued by Nokia numerous times for using their patents.

Also, again, that blog does not represent the whole of the Nokia company.
 
cloudberrybrew said:
Nokia shouldn't even shut up, Apple has stolen and been sued by Nokia numerous times for using their patents.
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When I say they shouldn't brag about how to hold their own phones, what makes you think I'm also talking about what their lawyers should do?

Those are clearly very different things, are they not?

cloudberrybrew said:
Also, again, that blog does not represent the whole of the Nokia company.
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I'm not clear...do they own it at all? If it's like Macrumors then I was wrong, it has nothing to do with them.

But if it's like Steve's e-mails...not representitive, but still an employee...then my criticism stands.
 
tuatha said:
Not in the US, but globally Nokia has about a 40% share of the mobile market. (depending on which figures you read - some have them at just under 35%)
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Lets take that further in context. The upstart Apple, that was not in the mobile market Introduces a phone, a single design phone, that takes a significant chunk of the market and is the one to beat in the matter of three years. As the world market leader Nokia fails, as they got smacked by a mobile upstart. That to me is a little more an embarrassment.
 
tuatha said:
what planet are you on?

Mobile market share by manufacturer, as of May 2010:

http://stats.getjar.com/statistics/

See if you can find Apple in there. Hint: you'll have to scroll down quite a way.


Nokia moves 8 million phones every single week. They're the world's biggest phone manufacturer.
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+1 Finally someone who isn't an idiot. Nokia is responsible for pretty much anyone holding a cell phone today.

pugnut said:
Lets take that further in context. The upstart Apple, that was not in the mobile market Introduces a phone, a single design phone, that takes a significant chunk of the market and is the one to beat in the matter of three years. As the world market leader Nokia fails, as they got smacked by a mobile upstart. That to me is a little more an embarrassment.
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I work for Nokia and we're never embarrassed to have 8/10 phones on the top ten most sold phones list per year.
 
I'd love to see Nokia go Android for their next big smartphone. They make good, reliable phones but their OS' tend to be a bit lacking.

Very unlikely, though.
 
Small White Car said:
So it IS more like Macrumors than the official Apple.com message boards then, right?

Well in that case, Nokia has no control over it I guess.
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Nope it's a subdomain of nokia.com.

Have a look at the privacy policy takes you to nokia.com
 
tuatha said:
Not in the US, but globally Nokia has about a 40% share of the mobile market. (depending on which figures you read - some have them at just under 35%)
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Lets take that further in context. The upstart Apple, that was not in the mobile market Introduces a phone, a single design phone, that takes a significant chunk of the market and is the one to beat in the matter of three years. As the world market leader Nokia fails, as they got smacked by a mobile upstart. That to me is a little more an embarrassment.
 
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