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Lets take that further in context. The upstart Apple, that was not in the mobile market Introduces a phone, a single design phone, that takes a significant chunk of the market and is the one to beat in the matter of three years. As the world market leader Nokia fails, as they got smacked by a mobile upstart. That to me is a little more an embarrassment.

Not till there is an iPhone version for the poor. The iPhone is considered a premium handset. Well off people are going to have to buy by the crate to beat nokia in outright sales.
 
Lets take that further in context. The upstart Apple, that was not in the mobile market Introduces a phone, a single design phone, that takes a significant chunk of the market and is the one to beat in the matter of three years. As the world market leader Nokia fails, as they got smacked by a mobile upstart. That to me is a little more an embarrassment.

weird, I already replied to this, but my post seems to have vanished?

anyway, Apple don't have anything approaching a 'significant' share of the market. Check the figures.

They have a significant share of a very small niche of the market (premium handsets, as mentioned above).
 
Not till there is an iPhone version for the poor. The iPhone is considered a premium handset. Well off people are going to have to buy by the crate to beat nokia in outright sales.


FYI they are a public company out to make money and having the most profitable part of the market taken away does nothing to add to the bottom line. I am sure apple is happy as hell to leave them at the sub $49 handset market- If I were an investor in Nokia I would not be happy
 
weird, I already replied to this, but my post seems to have vanished?
Useless posts sometimes get reported and removed.

anyway, Apple don't have anything approaching a 'significant' share of the market. Check the figures.

They have a significant share of a very small niche of the market (premium handsets, as mentioned above).
In spite of Apple's announcement of 1.7M iPhone 4s sold, there's a subtext to that. Apple's goal is more in line with profit than units-sold. Just wait until they announce their latest quarterly-results for more proof. Also, see this: Apple's iPhone Operating Profit Beats Nokia For The First Time
 
And rightly so.

If I had told you a week ago that the new iPhone was going to have an issue like this and that the reply would be 'hold it a different way' you wouldn't have believed it.

Nobody would have.

Agreed. Certainly can't fault Nokia for taking advantage of Apple's screwup.
 
Useless posts sometimes get reported and removed.

It said "Significant? Check the figures."

or something along those lines. Which is a valid, albeit brief, reply.

Wow. I don't know what's crazier. That somebody actually reported it or that a mod saw fit to delete it. Especially since it was part of an ongoing conversation. And not even an unfriendly one...
 
Who says the Finnish do not have a sense of humour . Though they did miss the death grip in the blog ;) it's one of the more famous grips in 2010.
 


If you think a video of a 2 year old phone that costs half the price of the iPhone proves something... well I don't know what to tell you.

Also, I took care to note 'to the same extent' in my post.

Please post a video of another phone exhibiting this issue when a single finger is placed on it. Or when a key or coin is placed on it.

Then I'll happily concede the point.
 
Small White Car said:
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(And I am, as you say, a super Apple Fanboi who will never give up his iPhone! So if I'm saying this, it really means something.)

No not really. It means nothing to anyone but you.
 
Haha: AppleInsider

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Nokia's manual adds, "Contact with antennas affects the communication quality and may cause the device to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed and my reduce the battery life."

All the Nokias I have owned (and that's quite a few) have said something similar.

In practice, I have never lost reception/dropped calls/stalled data just by holding the phone in the "wrong" hand.

It helps when you buy phones from a company who is responsible for many of the patents that make the iPhone different from the iPod, instead of a company whose patents seem to be more about looks.
 
It said "Significant? Check the figures."

or something along those lines. Which is a valid, albeit brief, reply.

Wow. I don't know what's crazier. That somebody actually reported it or that a mod saw fit to delete it. Especially since it was part of an ongoing conversation. And not even an unfriendly one...
You should probably check with the mods if you would like a more detailed explanation as to what happened to your post.
 
Every phone suffers from this to a degree. The nokia statement above is correct.

Are you serious? The point here is that Nokia might want to work on getting their market share back that apple ripped from them, before they poke fun at someone they have documented as an issue as well.
 
You should probably check with the mods if you would like a more detailed explanation as to what happened to your post.

Oh why bother. Not a big deal and I'm sure they've got enough on their plate right now.
 
Are you serious? The point here is that Nokia might want to work on getting their market share back that apple ripped from them, before they poke fun at someone they have documented as an issue as well.

Wow you got to work on your wit. Now wit is what nokia are doing here, they are having a go at apple, by trying to be funny by making up all the bs grip names. Do not tell me you think that you are taking this blog seriously???

How do u think antennas work? On any device? This is fine print in any manual that is based on an antenna system.
 
Seriously what is with you guys defending apple? Nokia has every right to take a stab at apple, apple has used the same marketing techniques themselves (see: I'm a mac; I'm a pc.)
Nokia has even more of a reason to do so seeing how apple likes to ignore any patents nokia has on products and just goes ahead and steals them.


Hell if it weren't or nokia mobile phones would be nowhere near what they are like today.
 
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