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True that, hope it never gets as bad as android fragmentation.
1) it's literally impossible for it to be that bad because it's completely controlled by Apple, not various phone producers and service providers modifying an open source os and 2) once iOS 5 is released this summer, I guarantee both CMDA and GSM iPhones will be running on the same iOS version.
 
All I know is from my experience with Android I'm very glad I don't own a phone running Android and it will take a lot to get me to try it again.

The Apple iPhone just works and it works well, that's a common and deserving phrase.

I'd go Win7, HP-WebOS, or Blackberry before Android.

Wh*red out Open code isn't for most people. Mostly geeks.

Just like people like to tinker with cars .... if that's your thing that's cool ... but most people don't ... they just want their car to work well.

It's lucky Carriers sell Android phones cheap or give them away or it would be reduced to just 'tinkerers' who buy them.

If google wants to get and keep average Joe consumer then they have a lot of cleaning up to do .... but having carriers discounting and giving away Android phones gives them a bit of false start too doesn't it .... if Apple ever did that Android would be history, imo.
 
All I know is from my experience with Android I'm very glad I don't own a phone running Android and it will take a lot to get me to try it again.

The Apple iPhone just works and it works well, that's a common and deserving phrase.

I'd go Win7, HP-WebOS, or Blackberry before Android.

Wh*red out Open code isn't for most people. Mostly geeks.

Just like people like to tinker with cars .... if that's your thing that's cool ... but most people don't ... they just want their car to work well.

It's lucky Carriers sell Android phones cheap or give them away or it would be reduced to just 'tinkerers' who buy them.

If google wants to get and keep average Joe consumer then they have a lot of cleaning up to do .... but having carriers discounting and giving away Android phones gives them a bit of false start too doesn't it .... if Apple ever did that Android would be history, imo.

I totally agree. Couldn't of said it better myself.
 
Haven't made the transition to a smartphone yet (happy still with my dumb phone and iPod Touch 4G), now that I've gotten used to iOS every other phone OS just doesn't function as smoothly and efficient as iOS.

Android customisation holds no interest for me and between this, iOS and Win7 remains the one I would avoid - far too jerky to use. Icon designs look amateurish at best and you just don't get the same support as you do with Apple. I haven't even mentioned Apple AppStore's as the key USP.

I dread to think the support I would get if I bought an HTC handset as my some of my friend's have had nothing but trouble with their Android phones.
 
On one side Google taking more control of Android and limiting third party customization is good.

On the other, IMO, Samsung and HTC have done a better job with Android's UI than Google, both HTC Sense and TouchWiz 4.0 look better and have much better functionality. Stock Android doesn't even support HD video recording, Nexus S can't do it, even though the hardware is capable of it.

Besides fragmentation, Android does not have one of the most important, fundamental features of a touchscreen phone... a hardware accelerated UI. Hopefully they'll bring it in the next update, it'd help Android A LOT!... I'm all for the good old fierce competition.
 
All I know is from my experience with Android I'm very glad I don't own a phone running Android and it will take a lot to get me to try it again.

The Apple iPhone just works and it works well, that's a common and deserving phrase.

I'd go Win7, HP-WebOS, or Blackberry before Android.

Wh*red out Open code isn't for most people. Mostly geeks.

Just like people like to tinker with cars .... if that's your thing that's cool ... but most people don't ... they just want their car to work well.

It's lucky Carriers sell Android phones cheap or give them away or it would be reduced to just 'tinkerers' who buy them.

If google wants to get and keep average Joe consumer then they have a lot of cleaning up to do .... but having carriers discounting and giving away Android phones gives them a bit of false start too doesn't it .... if Apple ever did that Android would be history, imo.

Agreed, I've used several Android phones and the Android honeymoon for me ended real quick. Android still feels unprofessional and cheap, and the OEM skins are even worse. I don't care much about changing launchers and all that, I want something that works as advertised. Android media experience is still such a joke, the music player is pathetic, the gallery is slow as molasses.
 
It's still opensourced for the most part

The problem that google wants to prevent is some companies Using 3.0 honeycomb with hardware that is not capable of running it or even worst having it being ran on cellphones. The "Fragmentation" on Android phones is very close to the variety you would find on desktop computers. I think moto blur is horid, but HTC sense is kind of cool.
 
On one side Google taking more control of Android and limiting third party customization is good.

On the other, IMO, Samsung and HTC have done a better job with Android's UI than Google, both HTC Sense and TouchWiz 4.0 look better and have much better functionality. Stock Android doesn't even support HD video recording, Nexus S can't do it, even though the hardware is capable of it.

Besides fragmentation, Android does not have one of the most important, fundamental features of a touchscreen phone... a hardware accelerated UI. Hopefully they'll bring it in the next update, it'd help Android A LOT!... I'm all for the good old fierce competition.

Nothing to do with whether or not Android supports HD recording.

The Galaxy S series of phones includes an external image processing component to work around an SOC clock rate limitation.
The Nexus S on the other hand lacks this component as the PCB space was instead used for the NFC contacts.

It is a hardware limitation. The only chance Nexus S owners have of getting 720p is by recording at a lower framerate, if someone over at xda releases a hack or Google releases an update (a la Nexus One).
 
Nothing to do with whether or not Android supports HD recording.

The Galaxy S series of phones includes an external image processing component to work around an SOC clock rate limitation.
The Nexus S on the other hand lacks this component as the PCB space was instead used for the NFC contacts.

It is a hardware limitation. The only chance Nexus S owners have of getting 720p is by recording at a lower framerate, if someone over at xda releases a hack or Google releases an update (a la Nexus One).

If a person wanted their phone for HD video recording they would go out and buy an android phone capable of doing so. Majority of people don't need HD video recording. It will be added to Android soon enough.
 
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If a person wanted their phone for HD video recording they would go out and buy an android phone capable of doing so. Majority of people don't need HD video recording.

I don't doubt that.

It will be added to Android soon enough.

Didn't I just get through saying that it was a hardware limitation, not something to do with the Android OS?
 
Nothing to do with whether or not Android supports HD recording.

The Galaxy S series of phones includes an external image processing component to work around an SOC clock rate limitation.
The Nexus S on the other hand lacks this component as the PCB space was instead used for the NFC contacts.

It is a hardware limitation. The only chance Nexus S owners have of getting 720p is by recording at a lower framerate, if someone over at xda releases a hack or Google releases an update (a la Nexus One).

Thanks for clearing it up!

From all the info I read online, it said that it was only a software limitation, well, if what you're saying is true, then it's even worse!

Google really ruined Nexus S, no HD video, no microSD slot, BT2.0 instead of 3.0, no FM tuner.
 
If a person wanted their phone for HD video recording they would go out and buy an android phone capable of doing so. Majority of people don't need HD video recording. It will be added to Android soon enough.
You post doesn't make sense, you say you need to buy an android device capable of HD recording then go on to say that the feature will be added soon enough. Which is it, does android support this or not?
 
One of the reasons Linux is still a "geeks" OS is the fragmentation and numerous variants. It's good that Google want to take it back under its own control yet keep it open. For the average user they get all the updates that Google roll out without having to wait and hope their handset manufacturer offer the update and for those that like to customise that option is there for them also.
 
One of the reasons Linux is still a "geeks" OS is the fragmentation and numerous variants.
I disagree with that idea. I think Linux has failed to capture the mindset of the consumer is for a couple of simple reason.

First, the idea you need to get into the nuts and bolts of the OS to make it work on your system. That's why Ubuntu has captured so much Linux marketshare. You generally don't need to do that. Move to another distro and you can be facing some serious tweaking.

Secondly, an operating system's job is to run programs put and simple. Many of the open source apps are a pale copy of what you can get from windows or OSX. There's lots of open source applications but they always seem to be in a state of beta and have too many rough edges. There are a number of great apps that are open source but not generally for consumer.
 
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