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iPhone 17 Pro Number of hardware issues on the Pros this year is unacceptable

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Allen_Wentz said:
Yes, you missed that part:
The OP first post was
"So far, all the hardware issues known with the 17 Pro series"
which is
"posting their particular issues as general facts."
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But that's not what the OP said and it's not what I said. The OP listed issues they labeled as "known", and if you want to get hung up on their choice of a particular word and your interpretation of it, that's up to you. I don't see any issue with the general tone of the thread / opening post. I took that to mean "these are the issues people are talking about", as in generally / colloquially.
And I said people aren't posting their issues and categorically claiming that a bunch of units are suffering from a hardware defect. If on an Apple-centric forum we aren't supposed to discuss real or potential issues with the new iPhone, which is the quintessential Apple product, then really may as well shut the website down.
 
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The colors of the Pro aluminum body are literally changing on some people’s phones, and the Apple damage control squad in here is still saying this is all a hoax, no facts, these are just your problems, it’s a normal release, nothing is out of the ordinary, etc etc. 😂
 
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kulan said:
The colors of the Pro aluminum body are literally changing on some people’s phones, and the Apple damage control squad in here is still saying this is all a hoax, no facts, these are just your problems, it’s a normal release, nothing is out of the ordinary, etc etc. 😂
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Except as my post earlier demonstrated, it literally *is* the norm with iPhones.
Discoloration has been a topic with iPhones going back to the white 3G and 3GS turning yellow.
Keeping in mind all of the previous problematic launches, this one is really a nothing burger.
No serious signal issues (4), no bending of phones (6+), no malfunctioning touchscreens (6+), no random restarts (6S), no random green lines appearing on the screen (X), no major battery life complaints in comparison to the previous (4S).
Just some easily scuffed colors and a bunch of other tiny things that don’t really affect the performance of the phone itself.
 
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Lounge vibes 05 said:
Except as my post earlier demonstrated, it literally *is* the norm with iPhones.
Discoloration has been a topic with iPhones going back to the white 3G and 3GS turning yellow.
Keeping in mind all of the previous problematic launches, this one is really a nothing burger.
No serious signal issues (4), no bending of phones (6+), no malfunctioning touchscreens (6+), no random restarts (6S), no random green lines appearing on the screen (X), no major battery life complaints in comparison to the previous (4S).
Just some easily scuffed colors and a bunch of other tiny things that don’t really affect the performance of the phone itself.
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Plastic turning yellow is way different than aluminum changing colors, just saying.
 
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killhippie said:
These seem more than minor when you look across the internet. This years phones do seem to be suffering from new build problems in India's production lines compared with Chinas highly polished production lines, probably due to China making iPhones for so many years and having better expertise.

Cutbacks in using cheaper internal components and less precise assembly is bound to occur as India takes over for the US market and QC issues seem more prevalent this year, as I think yields are down but they have sell the products.

I do not remember this many issues last year at all. Also what happened to the "yes I always go naked" phone crowd this year?

I guess QC will get better as India learns precision building techniques, China will be the better build for years to come but not for the US Market as all phones for the US will be built in India for 2026 by Tata.
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Yes, I go naked! 😜 my iPhones are always pristine. I’m very careful with my expensive tech 👍🏻
 
zkap said:
But that's not what the OP said and it's not what I said. The OP listed issues they labeled as "known", and if you want to get hung up on their choice of a particular word and your interpretation of it, that's up to you. I don't see any issue with the general tone of the thread / opening post. I took that to mean "these are the issues people are talking about", as in generally / colloquially.
And I said people aren't posting their issues and categorically claiming that a bunch of units are suffering from a hardware defect. If on an Apple-centric forum we aren't supposed to discuss real or potential issues with the new iPhone, which is the quintessential Apple product, then really may as well shut the website down.
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Your words:
"And I said people aren't posting their issues and categorically claiming that a bunch of units are suffering from a hardware defect."
The OP's words, first post:
"This is a ridiculous level of hardware issues for a Pro phone."
So IMO yes the OP indeed is
"categorically claiming that a bunch of units are suffering from a hardware defect."

At least that is what the words imply to me. We all can of course nitpick words to imply something different. I agree that we should "discuss real or potential issues with the new iPhone," but I will quickly disagree with folks posting implications about hardware that are statistically unproven and unlikely.
 
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Allen_Wentz said:
Your words:
"And I said people aren't posting their issues and categorically claiming that a bunch of units are suffering from a hardware defect."
The OP's words, first post:
"This is a ridiculous level of hardware issues for a Pro phone."
So IMO yes the OP indeed is
"categorically claiming that a bunch of units are suffering from a hardware defect."

At least that is what the words imply to me. We all can of course nitpick words to imply something different. I agree that we should "discuss real or potential issues with the new iPhone," but I will quickly disagree with folks posting implications about hardware that are statistically unproven and unlikely.
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Yeah, a bunch of units are suffering hardware defects. That’s not even up for debate, there are people posting their Pro’s color changing. It’s not an opinion or a claim at this point, it is a simple fact that many people are having a wide range of issues.

Not the majority of people, but there’s no requirement for the issues to be massively widespread or huge in numbers for me to say that there are many issues and have it be a fact. I can’t even understand why you would be so stubborn to outright deny the facts here and just say the same thing over and over about the issues not being real.

Are you now going to argue over semantics about what constitutes as “many” or “a bunch”? It’s not necessary.
 
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Every year

OP: I am having this problem... 🧐

MR1: Mine is perfect! 😛

MR2: Mine is perfect! 😛

MR3: Mine is perfect! 😛

OP: 😢
 
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The entire pro line is unacceptable and for me thats sad to say cause I am a pro use that switched to the air. One thing I can't stand is people making excuses and just jumping on a company's adverts. Switching from titanium back to aluminum then calling it a better material is utter nonsense. Using titanium gave apple the ability to make a phone slimmer and just as strong as aluminum. The giant bump along the top was done because aluminum has to be thicker and they needed room. Saying the phone using aluminum is better for heat dissipation then adding a vapor chamber, come on. The three colors are the cheapest looking colors and implementation of color ever on any iPhone. The 17's look far more premium. It's heavier, thicker, taller, and wider than the previous pro. Which was already pushing the boundaries of a usable one handed device. I don't like it at all and hopefully next year they don't play us for fools.
 
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C. Robert said:
One thing I can't stand is people making excuses and just jumping on a company's adverts.
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This.

What difference does it make how many units are affected by a particular hardware flaw? Every year there will be at least some issues and we discuss them. Why people become defensive about this and feel the need to talk down anyone discussing problems in a new device is beyond me. You didn't make the device and Apple doesn't need your help on an online forum. Now you go into a thread where the topic is something that is or at least seems to be an issue with a new device and you get lessons in math and English.
 
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hagjohn said:
There isn't anything wrong with my silver 17 Pro 256gb. Day 1 phone. No scratches. No hissing. No misaligned panels. No nothing but a great phone so far.
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I’m happy for you, I hope the Pro Max I pick up today is the same.
 
kulan said:
So far, all the hardware issues known with the 17 Pro series:

  • Aluminum body dents and scratches upon impacts even when the phone is in a case
  • Speaker makes buzzing/static noises when the phone is charging and/or listening to audio on very low volumes
  • Back camera module makes a clicking sound whenever opening the camera app and/or switching lenses
  • Front camera/Face ID sensors make a clicking noise when Face ID activates

Feel free to add any other issues you’ve experienced. This is a ridiculous level of hardware issues for a Pro phone.

If you seem to think none of these issues exist, refer to the links below:

iPhone 17 Pro Max – Static / hissing nois… - Apple Community

discussions.apple.com discussions.apple.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/1nn8nev/anyone_with_an_iphone_17_pro_max_hearing

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But, you don't own one, do you? ;)
 
chmania said:
There you are!
Still trying to justify your buy...;)
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Oh look, you are back to troll me. Pretty sure you will need to justify spending your whole year’s salary on a base 17. Definitely keep your 11!
 
"Number of hardware issues on the Pros this year is unacceptable"
The guy doesn't even own one.
The heading should be, Number of hardware issues on the Airs this year is unacceptable!
 
chmania said:
"Number of hardware issues on the Pros this year is unacceptable"
The guy doesn't even own one.
The heading should be, Number of hardware issues on the Airs this year is unacceptable!
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I mean, I’m going to pick up my 3rd one today, so technically you’re right but only for about a few hours? 😂
 
kulan said:
But I know you don’t have the option to do that so it must be hard to see :p
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The carrier and the shops give 14 day normal return window, Amazon gives 30 day return window. And, all of them give you 2-year warranty, which you don't have in your strange country. By the way, it's Apple that sells through Amazon.
 
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zkap said:
This.

What difference does it make how many units are affected by a particular hardware flaw? Every year there will be at least some issues and we discuss them. Why people become defensive about this and feel the need to talk down anyone discussing problems in a new device is beyond me. You didn't make the device and Apple doesn't need your help on an online forum. Now you go into a thread where the topic is something that is or at least seems to be an issue with a new device and you get lessons in math and English.
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It isn't being defensive it's being offensive.
 
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kulan said:
Clearly it could be a part of the functionality but it’s not present on all the Pro devices, and definitely not on past generations, so that just tells me there is something wrong with the hardware assembly on the ones that click into place.
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This issue has been experienced by a some users over the years. It's not a new complaint, it pops up every release cycle.
 
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