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Only a $400 iApple tax. Wonder if it ships with a big jar of Vaseline?
Thank goodness the other 30 professional video cards that PC users have to choose from aren't available.
They would probably carry a $1-2K iApple tax. Magic Billions in the bank. :apple:
 
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WOW! Comes with it's own cooling fan. That thing must scream!... :cool:

Wait, HOW BIG IS THAT THING?! :eek::eek::eek:

Most graphics cards do these days....


MY QUESTION: It says it supports the Fermi architecture. Does this mean we might see support for 460 GTX/470 GTX graphics cards in Hackintoshes? Currently have one built but it only boots in VGA. If this card gives us the drivers people will need to get 460's to boot in native resolution... that would be SWEET :)

Edit: Looks like it does support my 460. SWEET!
 
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Only a $400 iApple tax. Wonder if it ships with a big jar of Vaseline?
Thank goodness the other 30 professional video card that PC users have to choose from aren't available.
They would probably carry a $1-2K iApple tax. Magic Billions in the bank. :apple:

How about you wait until it's actually for sale until you bitch about the price? Last time I checked, "suggested retail price" is often a lot different than what retailers actually charge.
 
I'd say it's connecting the dvi/hdmi port to the card

Actually it's connecting the 3-pin sync cable for 3D shutter glasses - some of the photos on the Nvidia site make that a little clearer. Looks like it might be using the "flying cable" because you can take the whole bracket off and get a card that only takes up one PCIe slot.
 
890 million triangles per second is an awful lot of triangles. Impressive :)

Yeah, what the hell would I do with that many triangles? :D

What I don't get is how can hardware be optimized for graphics? Are graphical functions different on the hardware level to non-graphical functions? Why can't someone just have a very powerful CPU with lots of RAM, and dedicate a certain percentage (depending on demand) of the CPU and RAM to graphics? Why would that (it's obviously the case) result in lower performance? It's all just bits, I would think that bits resulting from graphical operations are still processed the same way as any other bits...
 
...and because Apple cannot get their OpenGL act together, this will run at the same speed as a 400$ PC Card. Oh, and where is that OpenGL 3 support Apple Consumer Electronics?:mad:
 
How about you wait until it's actually for sale until you bitch about the price? Last time I checked, "suggested retail price" is often a lot different than what retailers actually charge.

You really think there will be a $420 difference between SRP and retailers?:rolleyes:

The good news is that for people who want this, there are official Apple drivers now, so you should be able to flash the reasonably priced version with ease.
 
Well, the Radeon 5870 is about $300 for PC folks, yet we still have to pay $450 plus tax. So by a similar margin, we Mac folks have to pay more for the Quadro card as well.
Yeah, after looking into it further, perhaps I should revise my statement. This is a workstation card, after all, and this is a mac product, so of course there would be a mac tax.
 
Umm sweet now when someone has over 1k to dump on a single vid card for anything but work use please pm me... Macs are so nice unless you are a gamer :(
 
Yeah, what the hell would I do with that many triangles? :D

What I don't get is how can hardware be optimized for graphics? Are graphical functions different on the hardware level to non-graphical functions? Why can't someone just have a very powerful CPU with lots of RAM, and dedicate a certain percentage (depending on demand) of the CPU and RAM to graphics? Why would that (it's obviously the case) result in lower performance? It's all just bits, I would think that bits resulting from graphical operations are still processed the same way as any other bits...

Graphics functions are quite CPU intensive, and they're almost completely separate from the OS's main processes. That's why it makes sense to have a dedicated processor (GPU) and RAM for such tasks. Basically, in theory, yes, the CPU and system RAM could render everything. But they're already extremely bogged down by the rest of the OS. Have an uber-powerful (and in this case extremely precise) GPU w/ video RAM allows the machine to process extremely complex stuff without slowing the machine down. There's a lot more going on under the hood than one might think!
 
MSRP vs. "Street Price"

Please note that there is a difference between MSRP (manufacturer suggested retail price) and "Street Price" (the price a product is actually sold for by a retailer.)

Generally, the "Street Price" is significantly lower than the MSRP. The PC version of this card has the same MSRP on the Mac version of this card. Because this is a press release by the manufacturer, the MSRP is what is quoted.

Given the competitive PC environment, the PC version will likely still be priced lower by retailers than the Mac version, but I doubt anyone will pay $1199 for this card unless they buy it directly from NVidia's web site.
 
I've never seen a GFX card with that cable linking the front to the back. What's the deal with that anyway?

It's because it's a double height card. The cable goes into either a hdmi or dvi port. Probably wasnt room to put it any lower down, so having the cable was the only option to get it to fit around the massive heatsink/fan.
 
What I don't get is how can hardware be optimized for graphics? Are graphical functions different on the hardware level to non-graphical functions?

Not different. Just a very well defined subset. By creating a functional unit that is only optimized to do that specific 3D graphics subset (and not for general purpose do everything capability like a CPU), you can make each processing unit a lot smaller, and thus fit 256 processing units on a chip, instead of just 4 (as in a quad core CPU) or 8.

Why can't someone just have a very powerful CPU with lots of RAM, and dedicate a certain percentage (depending on demand) of the CPU and RAM to graphics?

You can, but it would take 64 as many expensive quad-core CPU chips to get the same number of processing units. In actually, you could might be able to get by with only maybe a half dozen or so dual quad-core Mac Pros, since each CPU core can do more triangles per second than the much smaller and simpler GPU core.

But one card versus several boxes wins, cost-wise, as long as you stick to that well defined subset of operations (in OpenGL & OpenCL).
 
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I don't know anything about these types of video cards, but it definitely sounds impressive.
 
you need triangles? we got your triangles right here!

triangle man, triangle man, do anything quadrillions of triangles can...


shucks, i'll be danged if that ain't a whole heckuvalotta triangles!
hey cletus! we got room enough fer that many tri-angles on yer cinema display??


^(yes, i know this post contributed nothing, but after skimming through all the whiny b*tches posting "who cares?" and "the beatles suxxor" earlier today, i feel entitled to one unuseful post!) =P
 
It's because it's a double height card. The cable goes into either a hdmi or dvi port. Probably wasnt room to put it any lower down, so having the cable was the only option to get it to fit around the massive heatsink/fan.

It's not, actually - it's a single slot card. The extra port the cable provides is for 3D support (as someone noted earlier), and is optional.
 
Engadget notes the PC-version is around $700 without any elaboration re: any differences. http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/16/nvidia-brings-the-fermi-packing-quadro-4000-to-the-mac-pro/

That's the "street price". It looks like the list price is $1000. It's a bad idea to compare street price of one product with the list price of another.

The price difference isn't that bad considering the target market. For a lot of of the target market, the cost difference between Mac and Windows versions is probably less than the cost of one person-day of the person that's going to be using it for the next year or two.
 
So, would this be too much of a card for running a few calculations within Numbers (iWork)? :D
 
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