shadowmoses
macrumors 68000
Have you seen one? its beautiful and super slim/light, thats why the price is so hugh....Plus its custom CPU performs pretty well....
NVIDIA Powered MacBooks on October 14th?
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Have you seen one? its beautiful and super slim/light, thats why the price is so hugh....Plus its custom CPU performs pretty well....
pimentoLoaf
macrumors 68010
Lovely to have, through BootCamp, a computer to run some nice, non-Mac games.
Because they are cool - I love the iTunes Artwork one.
Unless you are referring to the conventional back lighting - LED's last for 6-10 years. Screen saver isn't going to have a slight effect on their life.
chadder007
macrumors member
This gets a Negative rating from me considering the extremely high GPU failure rates with NVidia.
I don't want NVidia anywhere near Apple anymore.
I don't want NVidia anywhere near Apple anymore.
Updated iMac?
Does anyone think Apple will update the iMac as well? I can't remember the last time they refreshed it. But when they did, did they do the whole line of computers like they have been refreshing the whole line of ipods at once. I'm ready to go out and buy an iMac but I'm just waiting for the next update, when do you guys think we'll see it?
Does anyone think Apple will update the iMac as well? I can't remember the last time they refreshed it. But when they did, did they do the whole line of computers like they have been refreshing the whole line of ipods at once. I'm ready to go out and buy an iMac but I'm just waiting for the next update, when do you guys think we'll see it?
Eidorian
macrumors Penryn
Nonetheless they do have dedicated shaders.
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=6276916What conversation?
The new chips won't have this issue, and the faulty GPU's weren't entirely nVidia's fault..
dimatrix94
macrumors newbie
wat is NVIDIA
MacsBestFriend
macrumors 6502a
a little bit more confirmation just cheered me up a lot! my mom just bought a new imac for herself and im hyped up that once i buy my macbook i will be in a mac home! my grandfather gave me his old airport and im gonna hook it up as our new router also!!! ohhh yaaaaaaa!
commander.data
macrumors 65816
There seems to be a lot of talk about nVidia chipsets being used not only for the MB and MBA but also for the MBP to enable Hybrid SLI and/or Hybrid Power. However, I think it's unlikely that Apple will move to an nVidia chipset for the MBP. Doing so will essentially lock them into using nVidia GPUs since I doubt HybridPower works with ATI GPUs. Intel's GM45 chipset however has an equivalent feature for switching between an integrated and dedicated GPU which would obviously be GPU brand agnostic since Intel doesn't yet make their own dedicated GPUs. This seems like the preferred option since I'm hoping Apple goes with the Mobility Radeon HD4670. The HD4670 has 320 SP which should overpower nVidia's mainstream GPUs regardless of their high shader clock since everything up to a 9700M GT only have 32 SP. More importantly even if ATI's drivers can't yet get the most out of their 5-way SP architecture (5x64=320 SP), presumably OpenCL software will be programmed with this parallelism and architecture in mind to better make use of the 320 SP. As well, the HD4670 supports 64-bit floats while nVidia's 9000 series only supports 32-bit.
One of the major justifications of going with an nVidia integrated GPU for the MB and MBA seems to be OpenCL support to fully take advantage of Snow Leopard. What I'd like to know though is whether Intel's GMA X3100 and GMA X4500 architecturally can't support GPGPU and OpenCL or whether Intel simply doesn't bother writing the drivers and interface for it because they want to focus on Larrabee. Seeing that the GMA X3100 and GMA X4500 also use a unified shader architecture and are DX10 compliant like nVidia and AMD GPUs, I bet it's the latter where Intel simply doesn't see the point in investing in GPGPU software support. Intel's unified shaders actually seem more flexible than nVidia's and ATI's given that Intel seems to use their unified shaders to assist in video decoding with a hardware scheduler between video and graphics mode rather than having dedicated hardware video units as nVidia and ATI have. Apple could probably develop the GPGPU interface for the GMA themselves if they want to, possibly make the hardware scheduler switch between video, graphics, and GPGPU modes and since they are defining OpenCL, they could easily define OpenCL in a flexible enough way to allow GMA support.
I'm also unclear whether nVidia's chipset will allow lower power consumption. nVidia chipsets have traditionally consumed more power than Intel's or ATI's solutions. And the Intel GM45 and PM45 have lower power consumption than their predecessor since they've moved from a 90nm process to a 65nm process so the bar has been set high for nVidia to justify themselves.
And the MCP7A-U that the article points to as a candidate nVidia chipset seems to be a desktop chipset since uATX is a form factor for small desktop motherboards. And mGPU doesn't stand for "mobile GPU" but "motherboard GPU", just another name for IGP. nVidia's upcoming mobile Intel chipset is supposed to be the MCP79 (http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=6859), however it's status is unclear since it was supposed to be released alongside Montevina 2 to compete against it.
I kind of feel sorry for Apple if they've actually had no intention of releasing nVidia IGPs since with all this hype if they just stick with Intel IGPs, people will be very disappointed. Still, they could go with Intel's yet to be released GM47, which is supposed to be a higher clocked GM45, with the IGP at 640MHz instead of 533MHz in the GM45, which Intel claims makes the GM47's IGP twice faster than the previous GMA X3100.
One of the major justifications of going with an nVidia integrated GPU for the MB and MBA seems to be OpenCL support to fully take advantage of Snow Leopard. What I'd like to know though is whether Intel's GMA X3100 and GMA X4500 architecturally can't support GPGPU and OpenCL or whether Intel simply doesn't bother writing the drivers and interface for it because they want to focus on Larrabee. Seeing that the GMA X3100 and GMA X4500 also use a unified shader architecture and are DX10 compliant like nVidia and AMD GPUs, I bet it's the latter where Intel simply doesn't see the point in investing in GPGPU software support. Intel's unified shaders actually seem more flexible than nVidia's and ATI's given that Intel seems to use their unified shaders to assist in video decoding with a hardware scheduler between video and graphics mode rather than having dedicated hardware video units as nVidia and ATI have. Apple could probably develop the GPGPU interface for the GMA themselves if they want to, possibly make the hardware scheduler switch between video, graphics, and GPGPU modes and since they are defining OpenCL, they could easily define OpenCL in a flexible enough way to allow GMA support.
I'm also unclear whether nVidia's chipset will allow lower power consumption. nVidia chipsets have traditionally consumed more power than Intel's or ATI's solutions. And the Intel GM45 and PM45 have lower power consumption than their predecessor since they've moved from a 90nm process to a 65nm process so the bar has been set high for nVidia to justify themselves.
And the MCP7A-U that the article points to as a candidate nVidia chipset seems to be a desktop chipset since uATX is a form factor for small desktop motherboards. And mGPU doesn't stand for "mobile GPU" but "motherboard GPU", just another name for IGP. nVidia's upcoming mobile Intel chipset is supposed to be the MCP79 (http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=6859), however it's status is unclear since it was supposed to be released alongside Montevina 2 to compete against it.
I kind of feel sorry for Apple if they've actually had no intention of releasing nVidia IGPs since with all this hype if they just stick with Intel IGPs, people will be very disappointed. Still, they could go with Intel's yet to be released GM47, which is supposed to be a higher clocked GM45, with the IGP at 640MHz instead of 533MHz in the GM45, which Intel claims makes the GM47's IGP twice faster than the previous GMA X3100.
SandynJosh
macrumors 68000
Sorry to break this to you, but it's kinda like finding there's no Easter bunny. Expect to always own something that's behind the power curve in this ever accelerating techno-world. Today's big news in technology is tomorrow's ho-hum performance.
I stared with a 128K Mac and bought a ton of Macs since then. I particularly remember when 200MHz clock speeds were the end-all of performance.
Your mom is hoping against hope that something that functions quite adequately today will still do so six years from now. Not likely when three years is the current techno life span. You better start looking for a school-time job and save your nickels, because the day of reckoning is coming.
elmateo487
macrumors 6502a
excellent news, finally some horse power, cant believe 9 people neg'd this article
If it makes you feel any better, the first time i was on this site i pressed the neg vote because i said to myself... "Who the junk would vote Negative on this!?" and i assumed that pressing the negative button would lead me to their negative comments. Hahaha. Nope.
I'd go with a nice leather bag, they are lovely.
but that's coming from someone who went and bought a computer bag last week for a computer she's hoping is coming out on the 14th.
I'm curious. I've had money for a new MacBook for nearly four months now and I've been waiting for the new MacBook even longer. How fast do you believe the new MacBooks will sell out when Best Buy gets them? I'm curious because, like I said, I've been waiting quite a while and I've been spending lots of time on rumor sites. I don't want some clueless person who never saw this all coming, walking in to Best Buy and saying, "Hey, what's that?" and buying my new MacBook (before I can click add to cart on the website).
highjumppudding
macrumors 6502
should be an interesting future for the notebook lineup. looking forward to the 14th.
HP just came out with this:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_can_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks&a1=Category&v1=Mobility&series_name=dv3500t_series
The new MacBook better have an LED screen, a backlit keyboard, 160GB HDD standard, a superdrive, and weigh about 4 lbs. If it doesn't, I don't see how competitors won't be able to beat it. But, I trust Apple to deliver a great MacBook and I'll buy it (if they get rid of the plastic and sharp edges). If it's just under the hood updates or if nothing happens on the 14th, I'll just buy an iMac.
When it comes to processors and graphics, I know Apple uses better processors and I know Apple will most likely not use a discrete graphics card at 512MB like this HP.
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_can_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks&a1=Category&v1=Mobility&series_name=dv3500t_series
The new MacBook better have an LED screen, a backlit keyboard, 160GB HDD standard, a superdrive, and weigh about 4 lbs. If it doesn't, I don't see how competitors won't be able to beat it. But, I trust Apple to deliver a great MacBook and I'll buy it (if they get rid of the plastic and sharp edges). If it's just under the hood updates or if nothing happens on the 14th, I'll just buy an iMac.
When it comes to processors and graphics, I know Apple uses better processors and I know Apple will most likely not use a discrete graphics card at 512MB like this HP.
AidenShaw
macrumors P6
more-or-less true
Dedicated graphics can also share the main system RAM - see the thumbnail.
It's also possible for integrated graphics to have dedicated VRAM - either onchip or onboard. I don't think that any of the current mainstream IGPs do this, however.
Dedicated graphics can also share the main system RAM - see the thumbnail.
It's also possible for integrated graphics to have dedicated VRAM - either onchip or onboard. I don't think that any of the current mainstream IGPs do this, however.
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puffnstuff
macrumors 65816
and 8g ram expansion
nVIDEA are not my flavour of the decade since I've got a 9 month old top of the range MacBook Pro with one of their infamous dodgy graphics cards. To add insult to injury since I updated to OSX 5.5 rendering times on my 3D programs have dropped to the speed of sludge which makes me suspect this is deliberate to extend the life of the bad chips.
So even if I get the motherboard replaced under warranty it's still going to run too slow to be any good for work so as not to burn out the replacement crap chip. So I now have a very expensive lemon. In view of the fact that I'm not the only one with this problem, and rumour has it it's been known about in the industry since before I bought my MacBook (February), do we trust the new generation of nVidea's to be any better?
I'm hoping it's anything except nVidea in the graphics chip and wondering if I can get enough on eBay for my current machine (after I've had the current MotherBoard replaced) to be able to buy one.
This MacBook Pro was supposed to last me a few years, not a few months.
So even if I get the motherboard replaced under warranty it's still going to run too slow to be any good for work so as not to burn out the replacement crap chip. So I now have a very expensive lemon. In view of the fact that I'm not the only one with this problem, and rumour has it it's been known about in the industry since before I bought my MacBook (February), do we trust the new generation of nVidea's to be any better?
I'm hoping it's anything except nVidea in the graphics chip and wondering if I can get enough on eBay for my current machine (after I've had the current MotherBoard replaced) to be able to buy one.
This MacBook Pro was supposed to last me a few years, not a few months.
Why do you want an LED screen? There's been all sorts of trouble with them. Stripes, weird lighting, half of the screen with a cast on it. Loads of threads about this.
Not to be debbie downer or anything, but realistically, when comparing hard specs. between macs and other PC's in the same price range, the competition has been beating Apple for a while now (I saw a Viao with dedicated graphics, 3gb ram, 250gb hd, 2.4ghz proc., and blu-ray for about $1300). The gap may lessen but I bet you are still going to pay a premium for any mac when compared to comparably speced PC.