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Good thing on that time capsule! Hopefully your experience with that won't be subpar.
 
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Nope! I study at Bristol Uni :) Umm...but one of my housemates is an aerospace engineer! ;)

And we come over here to gloat about how our computers are 35% cheaper than yours...not to mention the 25% discount I get because my boyfriend works for Apple haha...sorry, that was just cruel. All of my friends here actually really resent me for it.

I hope your not studying maths. They are not 35% cheaper, more like 20% to 25%
 
Exactly, good service. I know that if anything happens in the next 3 years it will be sorted =)

Thanks for the replies ! :) Time to kick up with some classic Rome Total War !

That's the nice thing about Apple. If anything goes wrong, of course it sucks to have to deal with any lost data that may get caught in it, or even just the dance of getting everything set up again. But it feels amazing to know that if something goes off, your investment is not lost. There is no hassle. You walk in, and you won't leave without being taken care of 100%. Glad you got it sorted, and I hope you won't have anymore problems with this one :) I've been a "Mac" for just over 10 years now, and I assure you that at least in my experience, it's quite rare to have trouble out of these machines. And when it happens, well, you see how it goes ;)
 
Just more high quality goods made in China!

Haha. Very true. Also, the programs for mac are expensive.. I bought this ScreenFlow to record my screen ( I want to share things I've learned with other people, such as basic stuff ) but it cost me £78 for it. But it's worth it. Still working it out!

Don't we just love chinese people :rolleyes:

That's the nice thing about Apple. If anything goes wrong, of course it sucks to have to deal with any lost data that may get caught in it, or even just the dance of getting everything set up again. But it feels amazing to know that if something goes off, your investment is not lost. There is no hassle. You walk in, and you won't leave without being taken care of 100%. Glad you got it sorted, and I hope you won't have anymore problems with this one :) I've been a "Mac" for just over 10 years now, and I assure you that at least in my experience, it's quite rare to have trouble out of these machines. And when it happens, well, you see how it goes ;)

Merci. =)
 
it is a bit worrying though all this...
i know people only tend to post/report when there is an issue, but the new mbp's are obviously buggy!
they seem to run way too hot for a lot of people liking and the fan noise is causing some concern.
i know a few always get through the quality process, but a lot of people are saying they are on there 2nd/3rd mbp already.
i wonder what apples stance on this is?
 
Quad Core! Feel the burn. The fans come on more because there is more heat. The tdp has been raised to 45 from 35. It is physics. It is unchangeable.
 
it is a bit worrying though all this...
i know people only tend to post/report when there is an issue, but the new mbp's are obviously buggy!
they seem to run way too hot for a lot of people liking and the fan noise is causing some concern.
i know a few always get through the quality process, but a lot of people are saying they are on there 2nd/3rd mbp already.
i wonder what apples stance on this is?

This will come off as rude but it's not intended that way by any means, to anybody. But as far as fan speeds and temps go, as you posted, (not the OP's original problem!! :) )...

It's a product of people expecting the wrong thing, not the product of bugs or faults with Apple in virtually every instance. This happens every refresh. Somehow misinformed and sometimes even ignorant people expect amazing power, and ice cold temps. They buy the newest, and it's the same as ever, same as any other manufacturer. It's powerful, and it gets hot when you push it hard. Apple machines run a bit warmer to the touch, than others. It's the nature of the beast. They are designed that way, they trade plastic cases and loud fans, for aluminum cases that transfer heat amazingly well, cooling them with far slower speeds on the fans under normal/light use, often silent. When you work ANY powerful machine to capacity, it's simply going to get hot. No matter if it's a Apple, Gateway, Toshiba, whatever. A byproduct of power and performance, is the outlet of heat. You feel this MUCH more when the machine is made of aluminum. When they heat up, fans get loud. Cools the components and the case, maintaining hardware safety. It's not a flaw. It's the way they were meant to operate.

I swear, some people (by no means directing this at anyone here thus far!!) think that Apple slapped bits of metal together and sent it out without testing or any kind of forethought. The flaw in almost every case, is the buyer not informing themselves of the nature of these things. It's like going out and buying a muscle car then complaining and exchanging it when it gets 10 miles per gallon and rattles your head with thunderous exhaust. The next one is going to do it too. It's how they are meant to be.

That being said, some problems happen. Inevitably some lemons get through quality control and it happens to every manufacturer. Not everyone complains with no good reason. But most, the vast majority, do. It's like people want a powerhouse laptop that runs dead silent and ice cold. Good luck with that, from ANY manufacturer.
 
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That sucks to hear but its good it got sorted out. No company is immune to hardware failures. (We had 60 Dell XPS gaming systems our company ordered for MWR sites overseas and all went bad within a month!)

Sadly its the nature of technology so its always good to have a backup.
 
This will come off as rude but it's not intended that way by any means, to anybody.

It's a product of people expecting the wrong thing, not the product of bugs or faults with Apple in virtually every instance. This happens every refresh. Somehow misinformed and sometimes even ignorant people expect amazing power, and ice cold temps. They buy the newest, and it's the same as ever, same as any other manufacturer. It's powerful, and it gets hot when you push it hard. Apple machines run a bit warmer than others. It's the nature of the beast. They are designed that way, they trade plastic cases and loud fans, for aluminum cases that transfer heat amazingly well, cooling them with far slower speeds on the fans under normal/light use, often silent. When you work ANY powerful machine to capacity, it's simply going to get hot. No matter if it's a Apple, Gateway, Toshiba, whatever. A byproduct of power and performance, is the outlet of heat. You feel this MUCH more when the machine is made of aluminum. When they heat up, fans get loud. Cools the components and the case, maintaining hardware safety. It's not a flaw. It's the way they were meant to operate.

I swear, some people (by no means directing this at anyone here thus far!!) think that Apple slapped bits of metal together and sent it out without testing or any kind of forethought. The flaw in almost every case, is the buyer not informing themselves of the nature of these things. It's like going out and buying a muscle car then complaining and exchanging it when it gets 10 miles per gallon and rattles your head with thunder.

That being said, some problems happen. Inevitably some lemons get through Quality Control and it happens to every manufacturer. Not everyone complains with no good reason. But most, the vast majority, do. It's like people want a powerhouse laptop that runs dead silent and ice cold. Good luck with that, from ANY manufacturer.

Rude boy, get it up. :)
 
save money on a time capsule

Wish I bought Time Capsule, I lost all my songs which I put on my mac from my iPhone, then deleted all my songs from my iPhone then it all went bad few hours later! Apple could not save my data! So I'm kicking myself now. Just ordered a 1TB capsule! Will back up all my data ASAP when I get it!



As other people have said, you don't need to get a time capsule drive to use its features. You can save a lot of money and get any external drive. The time capsule software will work on any external drive.
 
Blimey - some people just will not learn!!!!! Enjoy backing up from now on! No need for a time capsule (you might need some spare money to buy all those tracks again!:D) Just get yourself a 1TB drive (£75) and a USB / firewire enclosure (£30 ish)

I second this, but do something just a bit different. I've moved my iTunes library to an external drive so that I can take my entire iTunes library with me wherever I go. With external 2.5" HDDs getting cheaper an cheaper, it make more and more sense to do it that way, at least for me. Of course, you'll probably want to back that up, but at least it wouldn't have affected you the same way as what actually happened, as your iTunes library wouldn't have been resident on your MacBook Pro's internal HDD.
 
Now received my time capsule, everything is backed up safely. Very expensive lesson here for me. Thanks for the comments and information guys =)
 
It seems I just keep spending. I just got bought a bluetooth headset:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-...3HHM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1299980266&sr=8-2

But they will be fantastic for the music, just need to bloody buy all my music again! :p I seem to care more and want to buy better products for my Mac, than I did with my PC!

You may need to get out a bit more .... but until then, how about you expand your system with this: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/962790/hacked_macbook_pro_3d/ :D
 
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Apple are, indeed, very generous in their return policy.

In mid Feb I bought a 15" basic MBP. It had the strange "tink" phenomenon around the left of the trackpad, so I returned it (twice) and then the third one worked a treat but then they released the 2011s so I took it in again and asked if I could exchange it which they did with no quibble whatsoever.

The first 2011 MBP I got was the 2.0, which seemed ok but it suffered from kernel panics whilst tethering via iphone, and in windows 7 if i did two finger scrolling the logic board would emit warning beeps so I returned that one two days after purchase. The next one I got, again, worked a treat but I didn't like the graphics processor on it, it was lacking in oomph so I returned that yesterday evening (it was one day out of the 14 day period but they graciously let me exchange it for the 2.2 GHz model). I set this up but fortunately before I had put everything on there I noticed one of the pixels was shot, on the Facebook navigation bar a green spot would stay there no matter what.

So this morning I returned it again which was easy too, they could see the spot that shouldn't be there. I opened up the new one they gave me in the store and scrolled through the "solid colour" desktop backgrounds and sure enough I found another damaged pixel, but fortunately I was in the shop.

Finally, I got one with no pixel problems and (it seems) no overheating issues. I played GTA on highest resolution/max settings (via bootcamp) and it worked a treat. I did, however, do a SMC and PRAM reset as soon as I got home, just in case.

The reason I bring all this up is that I have to agree, Apple do make good products and have excellent customer service. As this is the first batch of new machines it makes sense for there to be a few duds (dodgy 2010 MBPs notwithstanding). Apple throughout all of my travails behaved admirably and with equanimity, never once questioning why the hell I was in and out of that place like a vicar in a.... Nevermind!

I enjoy using my MacBook, as I have never enjoyed using any other laptop (apart from my first ever Toshiba back in 1997 but that's nostalgia for you) and I think what I went through was worth it. I didn't really lose anything as my data was always backed up and I only live round the corner from an Apple Store (Covent Garden). OS X is a fine system, and with bootcamp I can do the things that it can't (at the moment).

I think the people who decry Apple must just be rancorous for one reason or another...
 
I swear reading this board is making me paranoid!! :p
My MBP is booting up noticeably slower than is was when I first got it. Should I be worried?
 
OK, mine takes I'd say about 15 seconds...It's just at first, the thing booted up INSTANTLY, and with all the bad stuff I read here, it gets me worried after awhile LOL :D

I've also noticed my screen isn't quite as bright as it was at first. I think it's getting 'broke in' LOL

*eta- sitting here in bed, I mentioned the screen to hubby and he says the screen is just as bright as day 1, and that I just must be getting used to it. *
 
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Apple are, indeed, very generous in their return policy.

In mid Feb I bought a 15" basic MBP. It had the strange "tink" phenomenon around the left of the trackpad, so I returned it (twice) and then the third one worked a treat but then they released the 2011s so I took it in again and asked if I could exchange it which they did with no quibble whatsoever.

The first 2011 MBP I got was the 2.0, which seemed ok but it suffered from kernel panics whilst tethering via iphone, and in windows 7 if i did two finger scrolling the logic board would emit warning beeps so I returned that one two days after purchase. The next one I got, again, worked a treat but I didn't like the graphics processor on it, it was lacking in oomph so I returned that yesterday evening (it was one day out of the 14 day period but they graciously let me exchange it for the 2.2 GHz model). I set this up but fortunately before I had put everything on there I noticed one of the pixels was shot, on the Facebook navigation bar a green spot would stay there no matter what.

So this morning I returned it again which was easy too, they could see the spot that shouldn't be there. I opened up the new one they gave me in the store and scrolled through the "solid colour" desktop backgrounds and sure enough I found another damaged pixel, but fortunately I was in the shop.

Finally, I got one with no pixel problems and (it seems) no overheating issues. I played GTA on highest resolution/max settings (via bootcamp) and it worked a treat. I did, however, do a SMC and PRAM reset as soon as I got home, just in case.

The reason I bring all this up is that I have to agree, Apple do make good products and have excellent customer service. As this is the first batch of new machines it makes sense for there to be a few duds (dodgy 2010 MBPs notwithstanding). Apple throughout all of my travails behaved admirably and with equanimity, never once questioning why the hell I was in and out of that place like a vicar in a.... Nevermind!

I enjoy using my MacBook, as I have never enjoyed using any other laptop (apart from my first ever Toshiba back in 1997 but that's nostalgia for you) and I think what I went through was worth it. I didn't really lose anything as my data was always backed up and I only live round the corner from an Apple Store (Covent Garden). OS X is a fine system, and with bootcamp I can do the things that it can't (at the moment).

I think the people who decry Apple must just be rancorous for one reason or another...

What a timewaster. Returning 8 machines? I bet they were happy to see the back of you. Disgraceful.
 
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What a timewaster. Returning 8 machines? I bet they were happy to see the back of you. Disgraceful.

lol, getting in a tizzy over an erroneous conclusion?

try reading the post again, and you'll see i didn't just return 8 fully functioning, pristine machines.

i'm guessing, tho, that you're probably just trolling; most apple chappies are undoubtedly easy bait.
 
Blimey - some people just will not learn!!!!! Enjoy backing up from now on! No need for a time capsule (you might need some spare money to buy all those tracks again!:D) Just get yourself a 1TB drive (£75) and a USB / firewire enclosure (£30 ish)

You can get a 1TB external USB drive for less than £50 nowadays and a 2TB one for around £80 at loads of high street shops
 
You can get a 1TB external USB drive for less than £50 nowadays and a 2TB one for around £80 at loads of high street shops

Agreed. But firewire (useful for those long backups) tends to be a bit more. Plus it's more fun to build your own!
 
Without wishing to sound like a fanboy - can you name me one other company who have a shop you can walk into and replace a £2k laptop with practically no questions asked. It is bad that you lost your songs but you will never not backup again! Even the best equipment goes wrong occasionally;)

PC World let me walk out with an identical laptop within minutes after my old Packard Bell developed a faulty backlight ;)
 
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