I would happily have my 6 Plus thick enough so the camera doesn't protrude and all that extra space could be used for a ridiculous battery. Although saying that, I am more than happy with the 6 Plus' battery, I'm getting two days in the week. one and a half with heavier use on the W.E.
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Obsession with thinness: why is Apple so out of touch with its customers?
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While I agree with you wholeheartedly, once you put a case on the phone, the protrusion issue, is mitigated. I'm very happy with my battery, but a thicker phone may have given apple some different options that they're closed off too with a thinner phone.
You lost any credibility the moment you speak about "underdelivering in the hardware".
Apple rules using a dual core low Mhz CPU while others vendors struggle to keep the pace with ridiculously high clocked 4-8 cores CPU. Apple can run an operative system on 1 Gb of ram while others need 2-3 Gb just to have an usable os.
Who is underdelivering?
The suggestion that Apple is out of touch with their push to go thin is not taking into consideration the fact that many things in life have gone through the exact same transformation. Take money for example. Money, in modern times, has moved from thick coins to paper and now to electronic data has no dimension. Even something as basic as clothing has followed the same track, where once bulky animal hides have been replaced with impossibly thin high tech weaves.
The metal used to make cars, trucks, planes, is still being thinned in an effort to reduce mass.
I would argue that Apple is just following a bigger trend in going thin, one that is happening all around us, if you simply think about all the things that have been made thinner.
The metal used to make cars, trucks, planes, is still being thinned in an effort to reduce mass.
I would argue that Apple is just following a bigger trend in going thin, one that is happening all around us, if you simply think about all the things that have been made thinner.
My sister is a very casual user, moved to iPhone 6 from iPhone 4. She loves her new phone but has twiced complained about the battery life. The issue is not that thiness is bad; it's the sacrifice in battery life (and somewhat structural integrity) that is the issue. You can't position iPhones as "do it all" devices if they cannot do that role through at least a full day of heavy usage.
IPhone 6 is far better than iPhone 4 in battery life, so the issue is your sister.
In the same way, iPhone 4 was much more prone to take damage from its glass backplate than any iPhone 6, so also the "structural integrity sacrifice" is a totally BS....
I think your comparison is apples and oranges. I don't believe apple is wrong to make their phones thinner, but there comes a point where a design is too thin. When the components of the phone start to protrude, then the phone is too thin. When the phone bends easier then prior models, its too thin.
Yes, we as a society tend to want things smaller/thinner but there comes a point where if you attempt to keep pushing the design you affect overall function or strength.
I'm guessing here, but I think that the protruding lens was not just done because the rest of the case needed to be so thin, but as a design element in the same way that traditional point and shoot cameras have protruding lenses
When any of us suggest that the phone would be better thicker, with Apple adding additional battery life or structural support to fill in the space, we don't really know what the phone would feel like in-hand, we're simply guessing this would be the better option.
I know I'm not guessing here - Apple has made enough iterations of any new iPhone, testing versions with and without a protruding lens (as one example) and they decided what they did for good reason. Armchair quarterbacking is always easy to do - making decisions live, taking into consideration a broad range of positives and negatives, is no simple task and Apple is clearly good at doing what they do in pushing the envelope of both design and technology.
It's a matter of volume. The iPhone isn't a small device: TouchID physical button limits the shrinking of the bezels. If the iPhone 6 was 8-9 mm thick its volume would be uncomfortable to hold and carry around.
Making it thinner, Apple reduced the total volume of the device.
I'm not a fan of the protruding camera lens, but I'm happy with the overall.
I don't mind thinness if its still comfortable to hold and use, doesn't affect the durability of the design, and doesn't decrease battery life.
If any of these happen, then thinness is just stupid.
If any of these happen, then thinness is just stupid.
Yeah, no arguments, but I think they're obsession with the idea of thinness, has caused some questionable decisions imo.
Yup, they are pushing the envelope in this area, but what happens in some circumstances, they incur a failure in the design. I think in this instance, they've made the phone too thin, and its there's propensity for it to bend.
The battery life in my 6 is the worst ever. I've never had to shut down so much to make it through an evening out. Surfing and using anything network related is a quick drain, much more so than before. What I find myself doing is not using it for fear I won't be able to take a call later. Stack up all the beautiful thin dead phones you want but the one that works is the one you'll wish you'd chosen in the end. Nobody cares what a new phone looks like after a week and it's wrapped in a dirty ugly case as long as it works and the features are consistently available to you. Performance is always the winner in the end not appearance. I bought the 6 because of the bigger screen and the promise of better battery life not the narrow build.
Apple is underdelivering, there's a whole thread in here complaining about how the 6plus doesn't have enough ram. Mine stutters anytime I'm doing 2 or more tasks at once.
1 gig isn't cutting it and that's become the general consensus even in this forum. 1st time I can say my experience isn't smooth with an iPhone.
"Apple can do no wrong" mentality is strong in this thread
Maybe because this is a forum supposedly frequented by Apple enthusiasts?
Battery life on a 6 is not far better. I also had a 4, a 5, and a 6. 6 gives me about 30 min more than 5 and 5 was about the same as a 4.
In terms of durability, she had hers for 4 years and aside from a few micro scratches it is in an excellent condition. Mine was also mint when I sold it. Only issue came from people that dropped their unprotected iphone 4s onto a hard surface.
The 6 stutters as well. Just texting, one must take it a little slower. It lags. How can a "top of the line" device lag when I'm one-fingering on the keyboard? Something is very wrong here. I've been using iPhones for 7 years and something isn't right with the 6. I have not and do not recommend it. It is inferior at this point. It's both clumsy to hold and the performance is poor. We're moving in the wrong direction Apple.
They did that when they went retina on the iPads and people noticed, articles were written, it had a good amount of criticism.
Terrible battery life is typically caused by signal strength and what apps are on it. It's expected that the battery will be consumed with usage but it won't be classified as "terrible".
Anytime anyone takes Apple's side of the argument on an Apple message board people act all shocked that someone would defend Apple....and start going on about Apple apologist this and that...
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I don't mind thin... but definitely not when it's sacrificing durability and battery life.
Give me 2mm thicker and 40% better battery and 150 lb bend please
Give me 2mm thicker and 40% better battery and 150 lb bend please
Absolutely correct.
It's not about being an Apple apologist. It's about being an Apple happy customer.
If I'd not be satisfied by Apple I wouldn't spend my time on an Apple centric forum basically bashing Apple on every post I made. I would just ignore it, vote with my wallet and going elsewhere to discuss about my new product.
Behind Apple there's a very vocal crowd of haters and bashers I can't really understand. They feel the need to come here (and in other tech forums) and basically try to educate us poor iSheeps about how evil Apple is and how fool we are.
I'm not speaking about the casual complaint about a bug or a defective product. I'm speaking about some well know very active users storming forums like this one with just one reason.