OCZ Vertex 2?

DSchwartz88

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Hey Mac Pro People,

I've recently had some bad luck with an Intel X25-M and im looking for what else is out there. I know Intel's are known as hands down the best, but I've also heard very good things about the OCZ Vertex 2's. Anyone that have one care to share an AJA test screenshot and their experience with it?

Thanks!
 

Mosco

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I am pretty sure you need windows or at the very least a windows disc to update the firmware on the vertex 2, just FYI.

I haven't had any issues with the Vertex 2 or my Agility, but neither are running in macs.
 

flatfoot

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I am pretty sure you need windows or at the very least a windows disc to update the firmware on the vertex 2, just FYI.

I haven't had any issues with the Vertex 2 or my Agility, but neither are running in macs.
There are plenty free customizable DOS boot discs out there. You can use one of those to upgrade the firmware.

Oh, and I'm going to buy a Vertex 2 (Extended) for my Hack, too.
 

strausd

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The OCZ Vertex 2 is better than the intel x25-m. I read an article on anandtech explaining why. Also, take a look at the OWC SSDs, because both SSDs have the Sandforce controller and perform close to the same.
 

Mosco

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There are plenty free customizable DOS boot discs out there. You can use one of those to upgrade the firmware.

Oh, and I'm going to buy a Vertex 2 (Extended) for my Hack, too.
Hmm, I was under the impression that you actually needed a full windows disk, unlike the Agility that can use a dos boot disk.

You might be right though, I updated my Vertex 2 from within windows so I haven't tried by booting from a disk.
 

DSchwartz88

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there seems to be quite a large difference between the Vertex 2 and Vertex 2 Pro, and the Anand article seems to be referencing the Pro version.
 

xgman

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Why not the OCZ Technology 500 GB Colossus Lite Series SATA II 3.5-Inch Solid State Drive (SSD) OCZSSD2-1CLSLT500G (or 256 version)

Already 3.5" and no need for an adaptor.

specs:
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/solid_state_drives/sata_3_5_solid_state_drives

about $1,399 and $700ish respectively.


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Solid State Drives DO NOT require defragmentation. It may decrease the lifespan of the drive.

Consumers may see a discrepancy between reported capacity and actual capacity; the storage industry standard is to display capacity in decimal. However, the operating system usually calculates capacity in binary format, causing traditional HDD and SSD to show a lower capacity in Windows. In the case of SSDs, some of the capacity is reserved for formatting and redundancy for wear leveling. These reserved areas on an SSD may occupy up to 5% of the drive’s storage capacity. In OCZ’s Indilinx-based 3.5" SSDs, the naming convention reflects this and the 250 is equivalent to the 256GB, the 500 is equivalent to 512GB, and so on.

Rated speeds may vary slightly depending on the benchmark used, drivers, windows version, bios version and file size. We recommend using ATTO and IOMeter for benchmarking RAIDed SSDs.

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DSchwartz88

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If im gonna spend that kind of cash im just going to get the RevoDrive PCIe Bootable SSD. Thing has read and write speeds up near ~500MB/sec since it uses two SSD controllers in parallel to create a type of on board RAID0.

The most im looking to spend is $300 here lets not go crazy. Oh and I already have an IcyDock so 2.5" is no problem.
 

xgman

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Spoke to an OCZ engineer. OCZ has a new line of vertex 2 not on their site yet, or just out, that is a 3.5" drive up to 480gb. Now I'm afraid to ask about price....... (actually just got wholesale cost of around $1,200.) darn tempting . . .. . . .
 

strausd

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If you are already gonna spend the money on an SSD, you shouldn't need to worry about having to get an adapter. Also, you could just put it in the empty optical bay and be fine without having to use any other cables. And I am pretty sure the Vertex 2 comes with a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter anyways, so no problem there. Also, the Vertex 2 has better performance than their 3.5" SSD.

Vertex 2:


NAND Flash Components: Multi-Level (MLC) NAND Flash Memory, Interface: Sata 3.0Gbp/s, Form Factor: 2.5 inch slim design
Life Expectancy: 2 million hours Mean Time Before Failure (MTBF), Reliability: ECC: 27 bytes of redundancy per 512 bytes of data
OS Compatability: Windows XP 32/64 bit, Windows Vista 32/64 bit, Windows 7 32/64 bit, Linux, Certifications: RoHS, CE, FCC
Max Read: up to 285 MB/s, Max Write: up to 275 MB/s, Sustained Write: up to 250 MB/s, 4k Random Write (Aligned): 50,000 IOPS, Seek Time: 0.1ms
Power Consumption: Idle: 0.5 Watts, Active: 2 Watts, Performance Optimization: TRIM (requires OS support)
 

chad2323

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I just recieved my Vertex 2 today and just installed it and I don't see much different with speeds at all. Here's a benchmark I'm not sure what it all means I'm a newbie with this.


Results 325.28
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.6.4 (10F569)
Physical RAM 12288 MB
Model MacPro4,1
Drive Type OCZ-VERTEX2
Disk Test 325.28
Sequential 203.26
Uncached Write 245.53 150.75 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 267.22 151.19 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 111.15 32.53 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 348.83 175.32 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 813.74
Uncached Write 649.65 68.77 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 498.12 159.47 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 3457.92 24.50 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 926.30 171.88 MB/sec [256K blocks]
 

xgman

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Also, the Vertex 2 has better performance than their 3.5" SSD.
oczssd3-2vtx480g

The newest vertex 2 3.5" version has the same or better performance as the 2.5" vertex 2 according to the engineer at OCZ with newer updated firmware etc., but the same great controller. The other 3.5" line they currently sell is lesser performance.
 

waiwai

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Feb 24, 2009
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Chad2323,

I noticed that you had successfully installed the OCZ Vertex 2 in your Mac Pro. Was this done using the included 2.5 to 3.5 adapter that came with the SSD? Or did you use a different sled?

I just got mine today and havent received my Mac Pro yet... So I'm wondering if the adapter that came with the OCZ Vertex 2 will fit in the Mac Pro. If you could let me know that would be great.
 

glassbathroom

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Chad2323,

I noticed that you had successfully installed the OCZ Vertex 2 in your Mac Pro. Was this done using the included 2.5 to 3.5 adapter that came with the SSD? Or did you use a different sled?

I just got mine today and havent received my Mac Pro yet... So I'm wondering if the adapter that came with the OCZ Vertex 2 will fit in the Mac Pro. If you could let me know that would be great.
Hi waiwai,

I can answer this question as I have a Vertex 2. The adapter it comes with does not attach to the Mac Pro sled.

I use an Icy Dock adapter which works well with the Mac Pro sled. I would highly recommend it. They are also pretty cheap.
 

waiwai

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Feb 24, 2009
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Hi waiwai,

I can answer this question as I have a Vertex 2. The adapter it comes with does not attach to the Mac Pro sled.

I use an Icy Dock adapter which works well with the Mac Pro sled. I would highly recommend it. They are also pretty cheap.
Awesome, thanks for the info dude :) Helps alot... Just ordered me one now. :) can't wait for my mac pro to come in... still waiting for it to get shipped eeeeeee....
 

dissolve

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I used this one from ebay it was 9.00 including shipping

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170464090588&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT


It worked perfect with the adapter that came with it.

Chad
So you used the included bracket, placed it inside a 3.5->5.25, and mounted it in your ODD bay? Has anyone tried the included bracket in an HDD bay with the 2009 models? Just ordered this drive and have a 2010 on the way so I want to figure out if I need to get a Mac Pro specific adapter.
 

gelid

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Picked up a 240GB OCZ Agility2 for $480 and installed it in my MacPro using an IcyDock. AFAIK the Agility2 is the same hardware, just different firmware than the Vertex 2 (Agility = slower 4k IOPS). So far, so good:

Code:
Results	363.25	
	System Info		
		Xbench Version		1.3
		System Version		10.6.4 (10F569)
		Physical RAM		14336 MB
		Model		MacPro3,1
		Drive Type		OCZ-AGILITY2
	Disk Test	363.25	
		Sequential	222.24	
			Uncached Write	292.97	179.88 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	291.75	165.07 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	113.83	33.31 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	421.54	211.86 MB/sec [256K blocks]
		Random	993.77	
			Uncached Write	1179.62	124.88 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Write	533.91	170.92 MB/sec [256K blocks]
			Uncached Read	2403.02	17.03 MB/sec [4K blocks]
			Uncached Read	1125.86	208.91 MB/sec [256K blocks]
 

philipma1957

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Hi!

Can someone tell me why on macbook 7,1 my vertex2 is SO slow?

this is the macpro not macbook you need to be on that forum . that said you are picking the slowest score. 4k is always the slowest score and your score is not particularly slow for the 4k reads. just compare it to the mac pro score above you should do worse with your machine because it is a far less powerful machine then a mac pro. a macbook does not have the same sata speed as a mac pro. your macbook has 4gb ram the macpro above has 14gb ram the mac pro has faster cpu and will just be a lot faster then your machine, see if you go to the macbook forum how your scores compare to a macbook and not a mac pro
 

flatfoot

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Aug 11, 2009
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So?
What do you suggest?

Ok, never buy ocz again...
No. I suggest you try a decent measuring tool instead of XBench, which is known to yield odd results. You are well within its fault range.
Just be happy with your OCZ SSD.
 

dissolve

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Good news (I think) for 2010 MP owners. Just read through the manual and it looks like apple implemented a type of adapter for 2.5" SSDs. Check out page 65 if you're interested. I'll try it on Tuesday when my Vertex 2 arrives.
 

strausd

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Good news (I think) for 2010 MP owners. Just read through the manual and it looks like apple implemented a type of adapter for 2.5" SSDs. Check out page 65 if you're interested. I'll try it on Tuesday when my Vertex 2 arrives.
Ya I saw that too! Still didn't see in there what type of SSD they ship with.
 
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