Of Gates and Jobs

[Unregistered]

i wunderstand the point that you make but on the machine you are configuring for 450 pounds ($650 US) and throw a 15" LCD on it and you are right around $1100. when making the comparison you really do need to match these types of features. So the complaint is that they don't have a sub $1ooo mac where would you suggest that they trim the machine to fit that profile. Clones don't work, apple almost folded ( I was part of that i bought a starmax3000 from motorola, and the hard drive failed once a year for 3 years by the way) I have tried to take the cheaper route and it wound up costing me more money. The stability of these new systems to me justifies a little more cost up front

 

[amichalo]

Re: Mac Prices

Originally posted by Unregistered
A few posts back someone mentioned that Mac were to expensive and that getting money to buy a PC was hard enough.
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All in all the dells come in $300-$400 more expensive whne matched feature for feature. (Knew that those $800 pc were missing peices)

Thanks for the great detective work. Perhaps this should be added to www.apple.com/myths

 

[krossfyter]

Is there any movies- documentaries ..out there that talk about Apples history, or Apple and Microsoft, Bill and Jobs, or whatever?


If so name them so I can check them out. Thanks.

 

[madamimadam]

Originally posted by krossfyter
Is there any movies- documentaries ..out there that talk about Apples history, or Apple and Microsoft, Bill and Jobs, or whatever?


If so name them so I can check them out. Thanks.

Pirates of Silicon Valley is a GREAT one
In fact, I was reading on www.woz.com that Woz is quite happy with the movie as well and thought it was a pretty good reflection on what really happened. A few things were changed, he said, but helped the flow of the movie while leaving the core points correct. For example, an event might happen but they show someone in the scene that was not actually there but since what matters is what happened in that scene not who was there, it works beautifully.

 

[eyelikeart]

Pirates of Silicon Valley was an excellent movie...

 

[mischief]

Reality disconnect

What I'd like to know is why Gates can say things about PC users that used to be said about slaves by their owners, and gets away with it.Statements like:

"Windows is the OS of choice for 95% of users."
is a bit like saying (pardon the epithets, they're for effect only):
"Slavery is the choice of 95% of Negroids in the colonies."

Or: "People rely on M$ to give them the best OS they could want."
Is kinda like:
"South African Blacks don't know what they want.We do these things to help, and protect them."

I know what you're thinking:


Don't get too upset, I'm making a point about Gates' state of mind and general contempt for his own users. My own political beliefs are NOT illustrated. I am not belittling suffering or injustices happening in the real world, I wanted to find a familiar parallel to what's happening in I T fields. What M$ is perpetrating is the business equivalent of these arrogant statements and genocidal actions.

 

[BillGates]

Steve is my hero

 

[amichalo]

Originally posted by krossfyter
Is there any movies- documentaries ..out there that talk about Apples history, or Apple and Microsoft, Bill and Jobs, or whatever?

Triumph of the Nerds and Triumph of the Nerds II, both by PBS. These were excellent pieces about the beginnings of computers, which included Gates, Woz, and Jobs.

 

[amichalo]

Re: Reality disconnect

Originally posted by mischief

I know what you're thinking:

Wow, is there a ":stunned:" face I can use to respond?

Gates is just the latest in a long line of captains of enterprise who enjoyed their monopolistic reign until they were unseated. Gates is (probably) not so mindless as to think that he will forever control the Desktop, but he knows he has a lead and he is entrenching his company as best he can for the time being.

Gates innovates out of competitive pressure. Jobs revolutionizes out of a vision for the Bright Possible Future.

 

[spikey]

There was a channel4 documentary on jobs,woz,apple and hackers, in Britain that is.
Either you missed it or you were watching late-night channel5. Or more likely you dont live in the uk.

 

[Andrés]

Steve rocks, Bill sucks!

Hello, this is my first post... any ways; Steve rocks, Bill sucks!