Offical Mac OS X 10.5 shipping status - Via Apple's "Up To Date" program

[joebells]

Thanks Zign, that helps prove my point even more.

Pisses me off when people tell someone they're posting in wrong thread when they're not...

I'm sorry but I am right.

Joebells-

I ordered the full retail copy... If you look at the thread title, it does not state anything about an upgrade. If you would like, you are welcome to start a thread that is properly titled with the word "upgrade" or something related to the shipping of the upgrade version.

I did post a different thread with a very descriptive title and the mods locked it. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/373305/ I've asked the original poster to please modify the title and he has not.

They are the same version...

The versions are a little bit different(the upgrade, uptodate copy requires a previous installation) and we up to daters seem to be getting treated differently from a shipping point of view.

 

[joebells]

Well the title to me could be misleading because I read it as "up to date, meaning up to the minute or up to date shipping statuses"

I said the same exact thing in my new thread

 

[ren857]

OMG! I thought I was the only one. Mine status says "ships by October 26th" also. Now that I know that it will be shipped by USPS, I don't think it will arrive by Friday.

Now that I think about it, I can understand why they would ship the retail orders to be delivered by Oct 26th. I guess because they paid more than we did, they are more special.

 

[Father Jack]

I phoned Apple (UK) and was told -- "Leopard will ship on 26 not before it." ..

 

[saxey]

I just went to cancel my order because I did not feel like waiting extra time to get the Up to Date version, and it now says that I am unable to cancel my order...This is weird, because the status is still Not Yet Shipped

 

[jayhawk11]

Hey guys, I just called Apple (US) and asked since my Up To Date order still shows as "Ships by October 26th"....not "Prepared for Shipment" or whatever.


The Apple Representative said that for Up To Date orders "Ships by October 26th" is really the only message they can put in the system. But he confirmed (three times, I wanted to make sure he understood the question ) that Up To Date orders will be delivered ON October 26th.

So yeah. I made him say it three times just to make sure, but he said that we should have it ON October 26th, not next week. Its just a limitation in their order status system for UTD orders.

 

[joebells]

yeah I was just thinking that. I heard ours would ship by usps and they generally don't really show tracking info. So hopefully the post office already has them and is just waiting until friday to bring them.

 

[saxey]

I can confirm that they will be in fact shipping out for the 26th. I called Apple, and they pretty much said the same thing as the guy before me.

He basically said they are waiting for UPS to come and pick up the orders.

 

[dr_lha]

I can confirm that they will be in fact shipping out for the 26th. I called Apple, and they pretty much said the same thing as the guy before me.

He basically said they are waiting for UPS to come and pick up the orders.

Sweet, I'll look forward to my Up-To-Date DVD on Friday then! Thanks for the update guys.

 

[benjamintm]

I just went to cancel my order because I did not feel like waiting extra time to get the Up to Date version, and it now says that I am unable to cancel my order...This is weird, because the status is still Not Yet Shipped

Seems pretty ridicules to pay $120 more for software just to get it a couple of days earlier.

Ben

 

[gnownayr]

thanks jayhawk11 and saxey for checking!! i am still a little skeptical...as i talked to a representative frm the apple online chat who said they will be shipped oct 26 or after for up-to-date orders. but at least you have given me reason to hope for a friday delivery!!

 

[bld44]

Since when is standard shipping USPS? I would die if they mailed something by the postal service. I've got "Standard Shipping" SHIPS BY OCT. 26. Lets hope for the best.

 

[jaw04005]

I can confirm that they will be in fact shipping out for the 26th. I called Apple, and they pretty much said the same thing as the guy before me.

He basically said they are waiting for UPS to come and pick up the orders.

Really? That's interesting considering the Up-to-Date discs are shipping via USPS. Last time I checked, USPS doesn't offer shipping options that guarantee a specific delivery date except Express Mail. I highly doubt Apple would use such an expensive service.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/#hardwareterms

We will get it sooner or later. However, Apple Store Reps. are notorious for being ill-informed about launch (or pre-release) products, and unfortunately they tend to tell customers what they want to hear.

For example, if you chat online with an Apple Store Rep. they will inform you that Up-to-Date discs are full install discs just like the retail discs. However, every single Mac OS X Up-to-Date program has shipped UPGRADE discs. Even Tiger.

All other Mac OS X Up-to-Date programs have also always shipped after the intial pre-order period, arriving within a few days of the new operating system's actual release.

Now, it is possible that Apple change their procedures with Leopard. However, I doubt it.

I would exercise a little restraint, and not get too disappointed if their promises don't come true.

Graphic attached with USPS shipping information.

 

[bungey]

Im in Chester, UK and the order staus for my up-to-date leopard is - "not yet shipped" with "estimated shipping: October 26".
Its quite annoying as Apple in the past have delivered by TNT and it probably won't come on friday which means when they try to deliver on monday/tuesday I won't be in and will have to go to all the way liverpool airport to pick it up.

Oh well, it only cost £5.95!

 

[gnownayr]

conflicting reports

per macpro2000 in another forum

"just called Apple US and they told me that the UTD orders are shipped on the 26th and would receive a couple of days after that via standard FedEx shipping, while the retail orders would be delivered on the 26th since they paid $129."

seems to be confusion and no consensus

 

[Eric Lewis]

yh

Canada UTD is not shipped..no status update

 

[jayhawk11]

I guess we all agree that we don't agree

Oh well. One way or another, we're all gonna have Leopard in the next month. And it is going to be amazing. Just my two pennies.

 

[seanneko]

Really? That's interesting considering the Up-to-Date discs are shipping via USPS.

Same in Australia, except replace USPS with Australia Post obviously.

I managed to get an answer out of Apple about it. They confirmed that retail copies will ship via courier and will be delivered on the 26th. UTD copies will ship via regular post and will arrive AFTER the 26th, ie. next week.

 

[frostrambler]

For example, if you chat online with an Apple Store Rep. they will inform you that Up-to-Date discs are full install discs just like the retail discs. However, every single Mac OS X Up-to-Date program has shipped UPGRADE discs. Even Tiger.

All Retail disc's and UTD discs ARE the same. The only difference is that a UTD package is just the retail DVD in a sleeve with no box. Thats it.

Also, all retail disc's are UPGRADE disc's same as UTD. There is no such thing as a non-upgrade version of leopard because all leopard discs are meant to be installed on Mac hardware which came with a previous version of OS X.

 

[wakerider017]

All Retail disc's and UTD discs ARE the same. The only difference is that a UTD package is just the retail DVD in a sleeve with no box. Thats it.

Also, all retail disc's are UPGRADE disc's same as UTD. There is no such thing as a non-upgrade version of leopard because all leopard discs are meant to be installed on Mac hardware which came with a previous version of OS X.

I think you have to have tiger already installed to install Leopard UTD...

 

[Eric Lewis]

All Retail disc's and UTD discs ARE the same. The only difference is that a UTD package is just the retail DVD in a sleeve with no box. Thats it.

Also, all retail disc's are UPGRADE disc's same as UTD. There is no such thing as a non-upgrade version of leopard because all leopard discs are meant to be installed on Mac hardware which came with a previous version of OS X.

they are the same as leopard retail disks..it just says upgrade and it looks for a mac os before installing

 

[jaw04005]

All Retail disc's and UTD discs ARE the same. The only difference is that a UTD package is just the retail DVD in a sleeve with no box. Thats it.

Also, all retail disc's are UPGRADE disc's same as UTD. There is no such thing as a non-upgrade version of leopard because all leopard discs are meant to be installed on Mac hardware which came with a previous version of OS X.

I know you're a newbie, but I've participated in the Jaguar and Panther Up-to-Date programs, and that's simply not true. Apple does manufacture specially marked upgrade discs for the Up-to-Date program that require a a current version of Mac OS X installed before they will proceed.

These discs are NOT sold to the general public, and are only available as drop-ins or through the Up-to-Date program.

I'm sitting here looking at them now. They say UPGRADE.

I also have a friend who purchased a Mac mini and he has a Tiger UPGRADE disc. So at least as current as 10.4 Tiger, these discs DO EXIST.

they are the same as leopard retail disks..it just says upgrade and it looks for a mac os before installing

Well, the ones I have, as far as I can remember, won't perform an "Erase and Install" just "Upgrade" and "Archive and Install." I'm not sure about the Tiger upgrade discs.

 

[72930]

I know your a newbie, but I've participated in the Jaguar and Panther Up-to-Date programs, and that's simply not true. Apple does manufacture specially marked upgrade discs for the Up-to-Date program that require a a current version of Mac OS X installed before they will proceed.

These discs are NOT sold to the general public, and are only available as drop-ins or through the Up-to-Date program.

I'm sitting here looking at them now. They say UPGRADE.

I also have a friend who purchased a Mac mini and he has a Tiger UPGRADE disc. So at least as current as 10.4 Tiger, these discs DO EXIST.

I would like some info on this: I have a Macbook with Tiger on it, and a blank external HD. Do I need to install Tiger on the external before I install Leopard on it?

 

[jaw04005]

I would like some info on this: I have a Macbook with Tiger on it, and a blank external HD. Do I need to install Tiger on the external before I install Leopard on it?

That's the big question. If the Up-to-Date discs are like the previous releases, you will have to install 10.4 Tiger before you will be able to install 10.5 Leopard if you're using it on a blank drive.

The 10.2 and 10.3 Up-to-Date discs allow:

"Archive and Install" and "Upgrade" only if a previous version (in 10.2's case Puma, in 10.3's case Jaguar) of Mac OS X is already installed on the drive.

The 10.2 and 10.3 Up-to-Date discs will not allow:

"Erase and Install" under any circumstances.

"Archive and Install" or "Upgrade" if a previous version of Mac OS X is NOT installed on the drive. It doesn't matter if it was installed when you booted the UTD disc, then you used Disk Utility to partition or erase your drive. The previous version must be installed before proceeding.

These limitations will impact your reinstallation times.

As for 10.4 Tiger UTD discs, I have not used them. However, I do know that they also require a previous version of Mac OS X (Panther) to be installed before proceeding.

 

[gnownayr]

Did anyone notice that a fellow UTDer had his copy shipped?

"Your order was shipped on 22.10.2007. Your Delivery Reference Number is *********.
We expect your order to be delivered to your shipping address on or before 24 Oct, 2007

......

MB025Z/A MAC OS X 10.5 UTD FULFILLMENT-INT 1 5.06 OCTOBER 26TH"

Did this happen to anyone else???