For basic use? Absolutely. But for those who are laying out books for example, need paragraph styles.No subscription. That's nice. But.... Google Apps is free and just as good.
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Office 2016 for Mac Now Available as One-Time $150 Purchase
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I like how Microsoft is changing its ways and their products now are better than they were, but we seriously need an Office competitor in this world. If Office and all the alternatives were free, I bet more than 90% will choose Office as their preferred suite.
Those who pick other options are for lower prices, hate for Microsoft, fanboyism of another company, or just a hipster.
Those who pick other options are for lower prices, hate for Microsoft, fanboyism of another company, or just a hipster.
Office 2016 for Mac requires OS X 10.10 or later.
And some say that if you don't like Ugly Yosemite you can just stick with Mavericks or Snow Leopard or whatever.... Yeah. Developers don't make that easy. It's funny because I still have Office 2000 on my old Windows machine and I'd be hard pressed at home to think of a single feature a newer version of Office has that I'd actually NEED to spend that kind of money to upgrade it (but then I hardly ever use it anyway). Of course, they pretty much forced an upgrade for Office 2004 for the Mac due to the PPC excuse. You could keep using Office 2004 up until Lion, though. Apple killing the Rosetta emulator assured old Apps and games all died regardless of whether they were still useful or not. Microsoft updated Office, but of course it's hundreds of dollars for features you already had. Convenient.
It's worse yet in Mobile. I don't know how many times I've gotten "update available" notices on iOS only for it to tell me I need to upgrade to iOS version 8.x except the iPod Touch Gen4 can't run iOS 8.x. It's bad enough they dump support for older versions on Apps that used to work fine in older OS versions, but to tell you the update is available and you can't do anything about it is annoying.
I've noticed iOS now offers the last usable version for some things, but it would be nice if they offered old Apps all the way back to Gen 1 iPod Touches (I still have one that works perfectly fine for music and the old Apps I got back then and use it with REMOTE all the time to control a bedroom Airport Express receiver for music (my alarm clock has a USB port on it so I leave it plugged in so the battery is of no concern, although ironically its battery still lasts longer than my newer iPod 5th Gen and my 4th Gen doesn't last an hour now on battery. I guess they don't build them like they used to....), but I'm sure I missed some Apps that might be useful. Too bad. Apple wants me to throw it in the trash and buy another one.
Casual users like myself don't need better than Office 2000 even for features, like I said. I find your "stupid" comment ironic given your suggestion to pirate on these forums against the rules of this place. Some of us don't buy a new version until we NEED to. New features are meaningless if you don't use them.
I'm not talking about owning a home. I was talking about owning vs renting Microsoft Office 2016.
Or, cares about privacy. If you care about your personal information staying personal MS is not for your. Read the EULA, if you are ok with giving MS (as well as their "partners" and advertising companies they sell _your_ information to) full access to ALL your information you are fine.
I didn't know about that, and never heard complaints about it. Why would MS share your info on a product that has a high price tag? That kind of thing happens with free services like Facebook and GMAIL
Why is it that every topic on Office turns into "people don't need it anyway"?
If you're using Word/Office for laying out books, you're doing it wrong. Word is just an electronic typewriter. It is not a proper layout program. It can fudge a layout, but it can't do anything to a professional standard.
Office is a 1980s low-end clerical suite for office workers and amateurs. It is, thankfully, dying out. Plenty of people growing up today will never use Office. Never.
And Windows 10. Why? I guess they believe monetising customers private information is good for business. MS have taken a big step towards Facebook, Google and other companies that make money on users private information.
Quotes in italic from MS Privacy statement:
"Microsoft uses the data we collect to provide you the services we offer, which includes using data to improve and personalize your experiences. We also may use the data to communicate with you, for example, informing you about your account, security updates and product information. And we use data to help make the ads we show you more relevant to you. However, we do not use what you say in email, chat, video calls or voice mail, or your documents, photos or other personal files to target ads to you."
"We share your personal data with your consent or as necessary to complete any transaction or provide any service you have requested or authorized. We also share data with Microsoft-controlled affiliates and subsidiaries; with vendors working on our behalf; when required by law or to respond to legal process; to protect our customers; to protect lives; to maintain the security of our services; and to protect the rights or property of Microsoft."
In other words, they can, under the EULA that YOU accept, collect any personal information they like from your client. Although, that content might not be used for selling ads... lol
They can, under the EULA that YOU accept, share (sell) anything they've collected from your device with whomever they like (granted, they need to promote the party to "vendor", "affiliate" or "subsidiary" or just refer to some umbigious reason like protecting you.
It depends upon one's definitions of what a "proper layout program" and "professional standard" are. For some, only software that calls itself a publishing app with the requisite one-button functions to perform publishing tasks count. For others, anything that can accomplish the task in a cost effective manner is all that matters regardless of what it is called.
Do you have some facts to support the claim that Office is dying out?
No one is interested in supporting cheap people with weird issues with the design of the OS. Microsoft is making a no brainer choice there. There is considerable effort to support the older OS with minimal reward.
I've purchased Office for Mac 2016 Home & Student Edition but cannot access the download link from the Microsoft Store webpage. All I get is an error: "We are sorry but an error has occurred and we cannot setup your Office account at this time." Anybody else having this problem? And why would I need an Office account when I've purchased a license and own it?
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Wow, so only morons who don't know how to budget will want to buy a monthly subscription, while a cool, intelligent person such as yourself is smart enough to purchase a one time subscription. People who purchase the cloud option couldn't possibly just have a different use case than you do. Wow, what a jagoff.
No subscription. That's nice. But.... Google Apps is free and just as good.
Not really.
Harrumph! 2011 version included 3 installs for $125. $150 for 1 install is a bit pricey, but, of course MS doesn't really want to encourage one-time purchase s/w, just make it available so they can say they aren't forcing users to cloud services.
To each his/her own. Normally I would buy but I have two Macs and need Word on both machines. Not spending $300 for a word processor. I would have spent $150 if it came w/ 2 installs. 2011 is just fine for a few more years.
Yea me too. I'd much rather pay the $590 each for my 2 copies of Visio and own them outright than $12/mo for up to 3 installs. I mean, in 8 years I'd still be paying the monthly fee where I could have paid outright for the licenses at $12/mo in the same amount of time. **** that!
Yeh def depends on where you live. Here in the Midwest, you'd be pissing money away if you don't buy. People also forgot about the tax benefits of owning... deduct all the mortgage interest and property taxes, part of the house get another deduction for a home office, etc.
I never understood why people bag on the Adobe suite though. It's $50/mo. If you can't afford it, you're not a professional—use something else. That also qualifies as operating expense vs a capital expenditure. If I would buy a perpetual license, it ends up being a worse deal. I also benefit from the updated software and new tools of the entire suite...
Well, if you need the latest office software at any given time, then yes, financially you're better off with the subscription model, but most of us don't.
And pirated software is a funny argument, you often get new software at the bay first and then the legit sources follow.
What "an incredibly stupid post".
Glassed Silver:mac
Went live around noon. I grabbed it and installed and have yet found time to play with it. Oh well. Someday I suppose.
Exactly! It's not even as good as iWork. Google's apps are alright if your'e only using them for collaboration with people who don't have iWork or a recent version of Microsoft Office.
Google's apps in inferior in terms of functionality and also offline access. If there's a problem with Google's servers or your Internet connection, you can't use Google's apps. On the other hand, suites like Microsoft Office and iWork work offline.
I can't stand the idea of relying on servers for important documents and also because if either the server or your ISP has a problem, you can't proceed with your work. Offline suites on the other hand, couldn't care less if they have an Internet connection and only need one for collaborative features.