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Numbers and OpenOffice Calc does everything I need.
That's cool man. You raise a very good point btw, a lot of time I see people buying expensive software that they don't need. I agree both tools are good for a variety of personal uses (I use them myself).
 
No one is interested in supporting cheap people with weird issues with the design of the OS. Microsoft is making a no brainer choice there. There is considerable effort to support the older OS with minimal reward.

So I'm "cheap" not to spend $300+ every other year on something I rarely use? I think you've confused cheap with frugal. Waste your money however you like. My decision to not upgrade to Yosemite has to do with its (I feel ugly and less usable) GUI changes, lack of useful improvements and slower operation. If I upgrade to El Capitain it will be because of METAL and nothing else. You can't say I'm cheap about the OS upgrade seeing it's free.... (there goes that theory). There's such a thing as being wise with one's money and just throwing it away.
 
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Been using the new Office for a while with a 365 account. I have to admit ... this is the first version of Office that I've ever actually liked, and I've been using Office since the mid 90s. It feels more like a Mac application should feel and less like Microsoft trying to make a Windows product that will run on a Mac. Kudos to their development team.
 
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I still can't tell if the subscription is worth it. I mean, how often will we see Office updats. If it's every three years, then really the cost is almost $300 ($99x3 years). Sure the $99 gets me 1TB of One Drive, but I prefer Dropbox.

However, do to me not willing to pay $99 for Office AND $99 to Dropbox, I've settled on Google Drive for $2/month since it's a nice compromise between Office and Dropbox. I don't do anything fancy with my word processing and, as an accountant, I find that Google Sheets does everything I need it to do (so far) plus the fact Google has storage options that don't make me feel I'm paying for space I'm not using.
And you really only new a newer version of Office if there's a newer Microsoft Office file format, like when Office 2007 introduced the newer docx, pptx and xlsx formats. Or if Apple switches processor architectures. You can probably use the same version of Microsoft Office for several years.
 
This is an incredibly stupid post. You are ignoring that a newer/better version will be out next year. If you want to run out of date software, just pirate it....

Wow.. I wonder how much 'smarter' this post is?

pirate it? I think the poster will not be posting messages about buying software if he/she is a pirate who will steal other people's hardwork.

I'm not M$ supporter but I don't believe in stealing..
 
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So I'm "cheap" not to spend $300+ every other year on something I rarely use? I think you've confused cheap with frugal. Waste your money however you like. My decision to not upgrade to Yosemite has to do with its (I feel ugly and less usable) GUI changes, lack of useful improvements and slower operation. If I upgrade to El Capitain it will be because of METAL and nothing else. You can't say I'm cheap about the OS upgrade seeing it's free.... (there goes that theory). There's such a thing as being wise with one's money and just throwing it away.

Call it whatever you like. MS has no interest in supporting people like you.
 
If I already have the previous version is there any really reason to upgrade? The only thing I can think of is this might end up being the last version available as a standalone purchase so it might be a good idea to keep compatibility with new OS's as long as possible, but I was wondering if anyone else who used it might know of other reasons to upgrade.
I see this as Microsoft's real commitment to continue (and improve) support for the Mac. It's their show of good faith in that, so that's another reason besides the compatibility thing for me to upgrade. It's a two-way street.

I just bought my Office 2016 upgrade from the article link. Careful! I somehow was taken to the Windows version, didn't notice, bought it, and then couldn't download because of the incompatible filetype of the installer. Happily, MS was very cooperative in processing the return and the new purchase. The installer worked without incident.

I really don't like MS Office, at least not the 2011 version, so I'll wait and see what's different with this one. But we have to deal with customers' Word files often, so we might as well keep up.

I'm happy we held out for this $150 version and didn't bite the bullet for 365.
 
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Google Docs?!? What's with all this comparing Microsoft Office to Google Docs!? I would never consider one a replacement for the other. Google Docs is at best a way to view Office files while you are on the go. Now, the real comparison is with Libreoffice. If given a choice between the two, I slightly prefer MS Office. However, considering the price, Libreoffice wins hands down. (Note I have not tried the new Libre 5 or Office 2016 versions)

Can anyone confirm Office 2016 fixes the bug where you can't view two excel documents at once (the way you can two word docs) in different windows?
 
Can you run and create Visual Basic programs within this Mac version and are compatible when ported to a PC?
 
If you're using Word/Office for laying out books, you're doing it wrong. Word is just an electronic typewriter. It is not a proper layout program. It can fudge a layout, but it can't do anything to a professional standard.

Office is a 1980s low-end clerical suite for office workers and amateurs. It is, thankfully, dying out. Plenty of people growing up today will never use Office. Never.
The editor/copywriter is using Word. I'm importing that content into InDesign with paragraph styles ready to go.
 
I'm so glad to see that subscription services to software isn't really working to the point where companies are having to revert back to sales.

I think anyone would like to subscribe if the price rang a fair bell in the mind of the consumer. Most subscription services try to extract profits from the first month itself and thus look priced a bit too much. I think, if they would offer more value to the user, and as such, if the value unfolds over a period of time for the user, therefore, the profits, anyone would keep subscribing. Of course, assuming then, that the software is kept updated vigilantly.

It has to be a different, more vigil approach than toward a standalone piece for the subscription model to succeed. Subscription is not just breaking the cost down to monthly. It is more. It is a service! Nobody calls a standalone a service. There's the cue!

Example:

I have subscribed to Office 2016 Business Premium on my Mac. I will not pay $229 for a standalone. Why?

1. The $229 covers me for 3 years of monthly subscription, at around which time, I hope a new version comes up.
2. Subscription offers me use on up to 5 devices. I am covering 3 already - Mac, iPhone, iPad. Standalone would be just the Mac.

So, more value in the subscription model at a price that evens it out over 3 years, which is roughly the product life cycle of a Mac Office piece. (It is true that Office 2016 onward they are going to bring upgrades yearly, but still.)

This is excellent execution of subscription model on part of Microsoft. I think, they are making a standalone for those who know they won't upgrade till it dies, or who will use on only one device and would rather not bother with a monthly payment.
 
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I'm really glad they are moving to a hybrid model where the people who don't know how to budget and save can do the low cost monthly option, and those of us who know how to spend a little more in the present to save a lot over the long term can buy the one-time purchase option. Best for everyone. Adobe on the other hand is forcing everyone to subscribe to software.
I hate that Adobe doesn't offer this one-time payment option. They are just pushing people over to pirated software.
 
Is there going to be any special offer for those who have been using the beta Office 2016?

Thank you
 
I think anyone would like to subscribe if the price rang a fair bell in the mind of the consumer. Most subscription services try to extract profits from the first month itself and thus look priced a bit too much. I think, if they would offer more value to the user, and as such, if the value unfolds over a period of time for the user, therefore, the profits, anyone would keep subscribing. Of course, assuming then, that the software is kept updated vigilantly.

It has to be a different, more vigil approach than toward a standalone piece for the subscription model to succeed. Subscription is not just breaking the cost down to monthly. It is more. It is a service! Nobody calls a standalone a service. There's the cue!

Example:

I have subscribed to Office 2016 Business Premium on my Mac. I will not pay $229 for a standalone. Why?

1. The $229 covers me for 3 years of monthly subscription, at around which time, I hope a new version comes up.
2. Subscription offers me use on up to 5 devices. I am covering 3 already - Mac, iPhone, iPad. Standalone would be just the Mac.

So, more value in the subscription model at a price that evens it out over 3 years, which is roughly the product life cycle of a Mac Office piece. (It is true that Office 2016 onward they are going to bring upgrades yearly, but still.)

This is excellent execution of subscription model on part of Microsoft. I think, they are making a standalone for those who know they won't upgrade till it dies, or who will use on only one device and would rather not bother with a monthly payment.
Going the subscription route makes a lot more sense when you have multiple devices and more so when you have computers on different platforms. I held off on update from Office 2003 on my Windows desktop and Office 2008 on my Mac until last year when I learned that Office 365 would give me licenses for both platforms and a few spare ones for my family members. I don't need to worry about getting a Mac or Windows copy of office to stay up to date. I just subscribe and can manage the software as needed.
 
Are prices different for other stores? Is it $150 on the Microsoft US online store only?
 
The Office 2016 Preview that I downloaded for free still works on my computer. What's the difference between that and the $150 version that you have to pay for?
 
...who are you? What are "precious posts"?

I meant that Google Docs is free... and that's about it, in comparison to Office. Google Docs is more in line with the iWork suite, as far as features and functionality.

...Who are you too? Ha clearly that was a autocorrect gone bad.. 'previous posts'

Well you said 'Free...Stop there'. That could be taken in a lot of ways. I took it to mean "Stop there. It's Free, that's all I care about!"
 
Can anyone confirm Office 2016 fixes the bug where you can't view two excel documents at once (the way you can two word docs) in different windows?

I'm not sure what you mean. I've never had that problem with any version of Excel on my Macs. I have multiple spreadsheets open in multiple windows all the time. This was the case with Office 2011 and in Office 2016.
 
Office 2016 on a Mid 2014 MBPR runs 10 times slower than Office 2011. Hell the applications do not even load any faster and in fact take a lot longer. This is simply not acceptable for newer software. I thought we were going forwards? Why would I want to pay for Office 2016 when it does not run as quick as office 2011?
 
Google Docs does what 95% of the people need for free. If you need to convert it to a Word file for whatever reason you can.

Given how MS has treated Mac in the past, I'm not willing to give them a dime. There's no telling when they'll release another Mac version. Sure, they look good now, saving face and all. But talk to me in a few years when it looks like MS, once again, has abandoned the product.

I don't have to worry about such things with Google. Sure, it live in the browser, but it's ALWAYS up to date, no matter what platform you're on.
 
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