All I know is the latest beta (4) is the fastest version of Office I've used on a Mac to date. Word loads in what seems to be less than one dock bounce, and I'm using a slow ass 5400RPM drive. So that has to tell you something.
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Office for Mac 2011 to Be 32-Bit Only
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yeah really, look how much can be done on a phone and ipad now....
But seriously, I say just fix where it is so slow just launching the application. then half of the slowness issues will go away. Most people would not even notice, unless they are working with documents that are a few 100 mb's. Also, due to MS doing away with upgrade pricing and making you pay full price - it may push office out of my reasonable range for software. Hopefuly we here some news about iWork 2010 and they made major improvements to it. Pages is ok, but numbers has a learning curve coming from Excel and is still a relatively light product (with better lay out formating).
Yeah... of course it doesn't really matter that those apps are not 64 bits. True.
But, it does show Micosoft has issues getting their own software (Office for Mac and PC) to be completely compatible with each other..??
So, blame it on not being able to get the code over to Xcode....
But, it does show Micosoft has issues getting their own software (Office for Mac and PC) to be completely compatible with each other..??
So, blame it on not being able to get the code over to Xcode....
Who cares if it's only 32 bit? I mean seriously. As long as it's more compatible from a cross-platform perspective and highly stable, I can care less if it's not 64 bit and so should most people.
A one million cell excel doc... give me a break. Who works with those kind of enormous files, anyway? Nobody. Most people use more proficient database systems in those scenarios. This isn't useful news from a business perspective.
A one million cell excel doc... give me a break. Who works with those kind of enormous files, anyway? Nobody. Most people use more proficient database systems in those scenarios. This isn't useful news from a business perspective.
I would say outlook for osx is the biggest reason to upgrade. Word is not Photoshop, working in 32bit will be fine.
32bit only is a little bit annoying.
I hope-but doubt 2011 will be any faster than both 2008 AND 2004.
Both are shamefully slow.
iWork isn't the fastest bit of software, but at least I can click something without a minute delay...
I hope-but doubt 2011 will be any faster than both 2008 AND 2004.
Both are shamefully slow.
iWork isn't the fastest bit of software, but at least I can click something without a minute delay...
Oh so true. Microsoft is right that it will effect very few people. The memory limit of a 32 bit application is 4gigs. Very few people will be running stuff that will require that much raw memory. Now it can kick your page files up even higher but you start suffering speed limitation there. My GF who works with massive excel files doing massive calculation does not even get close 1 gig of ram needed much less the 4 gig limit. These excel files are huge but no where that close to needing that much ram.
Heck the next question is how many people are even running a computer that has over 4 gigs of ram in it any how. If you have not crossed the 4 gigs of ram you have zero room to complain.
OS people need to run at 64 bit now days but apps are ok to still be at the 32 bit size. Hell 32bit apps are lighter than their 64 bit counter parts.
For the casual user or student.. I agree, 32 or 64 doesn't matter. For people that do more than editing 1 page documents.. 64 bit really helps.. how much does it help? I don't have the exact data on that but from my first hand usage.. the real world difference b/w 32 and 64 seems great.
I have 64bit Office on my Thinkpad and experience a noticeable increase in productivity. Also, all the programs load in less than 0.5 seconds.. I've never seen anything like it.
For example.. I use Office to edit projects in powerpoint, word and excel that are sometimes close to a thousand pages long, I can move through and edit them much easier than I ever did before.. 64 bit handles it all like cake. There is virtually zero lag or load time with any size document, you feel like your working with 1 or 2 pages when it's actually in the hundreds.
Why would you want 32bit if your OS can run 64bit? seems like a waste to me..
Anyways, most serious office or business users will have windows. not to mention large corporations that value every second of time in the day.
edit: i forgot to mention again how terrible the office icons look in mac and the overall layout of the programs is bad for productivity.. no offense to anyone, but this is just another good example showing the target market for macs.
I have 64bit Office on my Thinkpad and experience a noticeable increase in productivity. Also, all the programs load in less than 0.5 seconds.. I've never seen anything like it.
For example.. I use Office to edit projects in powerpoint, word and excel that are sometimes close to a thousand pages long, I can move through and edit them much easier than I ever did before.. 64 bit handles it all like cake. There is virtually zero lag or load time with any size document, you feel like your working with 1 or 2 pages when it's actually in the hundreds.
Why would you want 32bit if your OS can run 64bit? seems like a waste to me..
Anyways, most serious office or business users will have windows. not to mention large corporations that value every second of time in the day.
edit: i forgot to mention again how terrible the office icons look in mac and the overall layout of the programs is bad for productivity.. no offense to anyone, but this is just another good example showing the target market for macs.
haha I once received a 300 meg PowerPoint. some folks just dont know how to import graphics
found a few 300 dpi (equating to high pixels).with the 64bit version they can go to town then
LOL!
For my needs (occasional word processing & some spreadsheet usage), I think I'll stick with NeoOffice, which is nice & free.
2008 is already bloated, so no upgrade for me in 2010/11...just another great show by our fellas MS..!
MS IS DEAD. AND SO IS ADOBE.
Definitely agree. This reminds me of the raging against 10.6.4 not being released. Let them just get it right, worry about your thousand-slide ppx later.
MS has their head in the right place.
It's called pussing out. Something MS does often. I don't want a half ass attempt at an upgrade to 08.
It doesn't matter from a standpoint of typing a paper but it matters from the complete lack of caring on MS' part.
who cares about the 64-bit issue...
what about the fact that it's been 10 years of OS X and this mainstream program is STILL in carbon???
what about the fact that it's been 10 years of OS X and this mainstream program is STILL in carbon???
I don't know if this was a joke or not, but your post is VERY misinforming to the readers out there.
64-bit is beyond useless for ALL Microsoft Office applications except for Excel (in very rare situations).
It does not matter that Office is in 32 bit or 64 bit. What matters is that Office 2011 will be a big step up from 2008 in performance and functionality. Not this bit BS that 90% of the people in this thread are falling for.
Perhaps Microsoft just has their priorities straight. Please, tell me why you need a 64-bit version of Microsoft Office, or are you just trolling?
