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Office for Mac 2011 to Be 32-Bit Only
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MS Is Becoming Irrelevant
A less than exciting news blurb about a dying company....yawn.
iWork satisfies all my "office app" needs.
A less than exciting news blurb about a dying company....yawn.
iWork satisfies all my "office app" needs.
A less than exciting news blurb about a dying company....yawn.
iWork satisfies all my "office app" needs.
A dying company? They're worth gazillions of dollars. I don't see MS dying in the next 50 years.
Why can't they write this in Cocoa? Seriously? I'm not happy that iTunes hasn't been written in Cocoa either. I'm not trolling. I want a lighter, faster and higher functioning update to the junk they released on us 2-3yrs ago. When I'm charged over $50 for software from a billion dollar company I expect improvements beyond icons and the overall look of the program.
Correct, Word isn't Photoshop, but it also isn't much of a word processor when it comes to margins and laying out any kind of document above a term paper.
Ridiculously bloated. My wife and I are going on a "business trip" and I am going to try my hardest to convince her to dump MS Word for all but those few times her job requires it. She's already stopped designing the school newsletter in it because of those same problems.
I'll admit that the lack of cocoa doesn't paint a very nice picture on the state of their codebase. However the lack of 64-bit support is largely irrelevant as making the jump to 64-bits does not necessarily increase application performance. If it's not done right it can lead to additional instability and sluggishness. I'd take a refined 32-bit app over a rushed 64-bit app any day of the week. Besides... cut Microsoft some slack. I'll start complaining once iTunes is a 64-bit cocoa app!
Adam
Adam
I know this is the kind of thing that gets a million "negative" votes.
But really, there aren't a lot of advantages to 64-bit Office.
It's mostly useful for really large documents. Realistically, you're probably doing something wrong if you have to edit documents that large (except maybe using excel as a data mining tool).
But really, there aren't a lot of advantages to 64-bit Office.
It's mostly useful for really large documents. Realistically, you're probably doing something wrong if you have to edit documents that large (except maybe using excel as a data mining tool).
Hi, some info for you.
Latest Beta of Office 2011 running on iMac 27" i7 with 4GB RAM. With no other applications running, the Word icon bounced 5 times before the splash screen appeared. Blank document opens 1 or 2 seconds later. With Word still running, Excel opens to a blank document in maybe 3/4 of a bounce. Quit Word and Excel and then open them again?...... 3/4 bounce.
I predict that Office 2011 will be a big hit. The speed increase over 2008 and below is worth it. Keep in mind that VBA has returned. Looks like there are a whole load of new features surrounding that.
Hope this is useful info.
I fail to see what all the complaining is about. How many of you would actually be able to sit down at two identical computers and tell me which version of Office was 32-bit and which was 64-bit?
The whole 64-bit craze is quite similar to the megapixel myth.
The whole 64-bit craze is quite similar to the megapixel myth.
reality check
microsoft has over 90% of the OS market share on the planet.
A less than exciting news blurb about a dying company....yawn.
iWork satisfies all my "office app" needs.
microsoft has over 90% of the OS market share on the planet.
All day every day at work I deal with a series of spreadsheets with somewhere between 30,000 - 50,000 rows and 50-60 columns so in the region of 1.5 million - 3 million cells. There can be up to 12 people working on the document at once.
This may not be up to the limit of what they consider to be large but it is plenty big enough
This is under XP on Office 2003 with a really slow computer. I'm impressed with how well it actually performs in these situations, the only time you really notice any slow downs is opening/saving/closing the documents. Although working around the (false) limitations of shared workbooks, i.e. lack of document links unless you type the hyperlink command manually, did cause it to take ~90 seconds to filter.
Probably a lot more than you realise.
Or you are limited to IT policies and the training of long standing employees.
In regards to the lack of 64bit for Office, yes it would be nice to have it and a shame that it is missing however the 32-bit version is pretty capable and you would have to push it quite far to see the true benefit. I am interested in cross platform compatibility and the improvements there as right now it can be an issue from time to time.
Hi,
Office 2011 latest beta is massively faster than 2008 and 2004. I think this will be the biggest factor that drives sales.
Can we clear something up here?
64 bit does not make a program faster!
64 bit allows a program to do more. It allows the program to access more memory, therefore the program can offer more functionality.
This will not make the slightest bit of difference to Office.
64 bit does not make a program faster!
64 bit allows a program to do more. It allows the program to access more memory, therefore the program can offer more functionality.
This will not make the slightest bit of difference to Office.
I wouldn't say that all of iWork is a joke. Keynote is one of my favorite programs. All of the other students in all of my classes are always blown away by how great my PowerPoint presentations are. The 3D transitions are always a crowd pleaser. Instant Alpha is also a fairly useful feature. Keynote blows MS Office PowerPoint out of the water. Pages and Numbers are total jokes though.
I would have liked to see a 64 bit release of Office for Mac, but it's not a big deal. I just want the loading times to get a lot better. Waiting 25 seconds for a document to open is totally unacceptable.
Don
I feel the same way. It would have been nice for it to be a full 64-bit release, but it won't matter much for me. The s/w is reasonably fast the way it is and I don't work with huge spreadsheets anyway. The cross-platform compatibility is much more important to me. If they had to do a trade-off, this was the right decision.
Ballmer probably believes that it will, like, take twice as many programmers to work on a 64-bit version.
A lot of uneducated rambling going on here.
Office 2011 Beta 4 so far is great.
The office Beta was invite.
Office 2011 Beta 4 so far is great.
The office Beta was invite.
exactly, so it runs faster than a 32 bit version.. since it has access to more memory, it will not slow down under load.. so it does perform "faster" in that sense..
if you were running 32 and 64bit side by side with a 1 page document.. obviously there is not going to be a noticeable difference.. Put them side by side with an excessively large file.. I'm sure 64bit will be "faster" because it wont have to slow down like the 32bit version with limited access to memory