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Again, if Word didn't take 2 minutes to load and 4 minutes to quit then I'd be using it.

Oh, and it wasn't a bastard child when it comes to graphics, images and media as well.

Oh, and if it didn't suck at handling margins and bleeds . . . that too.

Oh, and text wraps and opacity changes and alpha channels, those too.
And if getting major page layout objects like tables and figures to stay where you placed them wasn't such a futile waste of time. Sheesh, I cry whenever I have to put together a scientific paper in Word. And those are not tears of joy!
 
Pop-up Thesaurus

I would quit MS Office tomorrow if there was another word processor that allowed me to right-click on a word and have a list of synonyms pop up.

Does anyone know of a word processor that will do this?
 
So...how does this affect a college student, not much right?

It shouldn't affect you very much at all. I used a laptop to take all my notes for my AP classes this year. I combined all the notes from each class into a documents that held all the notes for the year for each class. My AP Gov class had the most notes, and the document was something like 350 pages. I didn't have any problems with it in Office for Mac '08.

Don
 
I don't care a whit about 32-bit or 64-bit. All I know is that 2011 Word beta opens up crazy fast. Way faster than even Pages.

I still like Pages and will continue to use it when I'm just creating documents for my own use, but when I have to work on a Word file, 2011 beta for Word works pretty good for my basic document use.
 
iWork is a joke to you sure, but to many it's a lot lighter than Word.

Again, if Word didn't take 2 minutes to load and 4 minutes to quit then I'd be using it.

Oh, and it wasn't a bastard child when it comes to graphics, images and media as well.

Oh, and if it didn't suck at handling margins and bleeds . . . that too.

Oh, and text wraps and opacity changes and alpha channels, those too.

p.s. Not that I am an uber iWork fan boy or anything. :D


Weird... Word loads in one bounce for me.. Oh wait I have an SSD.
Nevermind, sorry.
 
I was formatting a 50 page document of 2008 Office for Mac and it's almost impossible to work. It lags while scrolling (badly) and eats 400 MB RAM (yep) only 3 charts and everything else text only. Finished on Pages in no time.

This. On our Media course we run at our local college, we do writeups about photographers in Word, and presentations in Powerpoint. Such documents include hundreds of images, and on Mac any Powerpoint or Word document on even the latest Mac with more than a few images is ridiculously slow, lags for about 10 seconds every time you scroll. Some students do it on their PC versions with ease, then bring it into work on the Macs, and it takes about 3 minutes to even load, never mind anything else.

I'm not saying 64 bit would automatically cure that, but a native Cocoa suite would go some way at the very least. At the moment MS Office for Mac is bloated and of no use to us anymore.

So we're switching over to iWork next year. While it may not do everything that MS Office does, what it does do it does extremely well and extremely quickly. Even simple things like tables are implemented a hell of a lot better in a suite that is a few years old.

On another note, if MS Office is staying 32 bit, is there any reason it shouldn't work on PowerPC?
 
64-bit word processing is entirely unnecessary for the average end-user.

With that said; I can think of three applications where it would be very nice.
-Grants
-Patents
-Presentations, Business Proposals, Investor briefs, etc.

I say this not because I have to write these (yet :eek:), but because scrolling through 300-400 pages of a word document is pure hell sometimes. When I came home from break my father wanted me to try to learn what he was currently doing and check grammar, etc for him; not a fun experience. While I don't have much first-hand experience with huge files, I know for a fact that my father will be annoyed about this, as he prefers macs. Luckily for me though, by the time I do have to get around to writing these, a 64-bit (or higher) version will be available :D
 
I thought your big complaint was that it isn't 64-bit.

It is a tad bit. Making the app faster to do basic tasks like open would be nice.

The other things are just my niche list of things that I've never been able to do in Word. It's a complete off topic rant, I apologize for that.

And if getting major page layout objects like tables and figures to stay where you placed them wasn't such a futile waste of time. Sheesh, I cry whenever I have to put together a scientific paper in Word. And those are not tears of joy!

I've never worked with tables, but I know that margins and bleeds are just as bad.

Weird... Word loads in one bounce for me.. Oh wait I have an SSD.
Nevermind, sorry.

Don't rub it in. :p
 
They need to fix a lot of the missing functionality (Entourage/Outlook especially) and speed the whole thing up rather than worry about whether it's 64-bit or fully migrated off Carbon.

To get me to pony up the £175 for Office 2011 it would have to be very good. Otherwise I'll stick with NeoOffice. It may be a long way from being perfect, but when something is effectively free you tend not to care as much about its imperfections.
 
They need to fix a lot of the missing functionality (Entourage/Outlook especially) and speed the whole thing up rather than worry about whether it's 64-bit or fully migrated off Carbon.

To get me to pony up the £175 for Office 2011 it would have to be very good. Otherwise I'll stick with NeoOffice. It may be a long way from being perfect, but when something is effectively free you tend not to care as much about its imperfections.

Office 2011 thus far seems to be the only office I would buy.
 
Doesn't really matter. On Windows, Microsoft strongly recommend you use the 32bit version of Office 2010.

From their site:
Important: Microsoft strongly recommends the use of 32-bit (x86) versions of Office 2010, Project 2010, and Visio 2010 applications as the default option for all platforms.
 
64 bit not needed.

It doesn't even matter in the slightest. 32 bit is fine.

Also regarding the word vs pages thing: i like pages but it really needs a good referencing tool like word has. It is no good for academic writing.
 
I'll just keep using LaTeX and BibTex to write my research papers.

These tools were a lifesaver when I wrote my thesis, especially after Word decided to crash and take my document with it (as in, nobody could ever open it again, as the document itself was so badly corrupted that it crashed Word every time it tried to re-open it.)
 
It doesn't even matter in the slightest. 32 bit is fine.

Also regarding the word vs pages thing: i like pages but it really needs a good referencing tool like word has. It is no good for academic writing.

Agree, Iwork needs a revamp, as I completely gave up on MS word and its constant bugs regarding copy/paste, it freezes like mad, and guess what its still persists in the new beta. MS just proves again that their products stink across the board.
 
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