Official MacRumors Nike+ January and 2008 Challenges

[QCassidy352]

From a physical point of view, the energy consumption in moving a body for a to b, assuming the body movement pattern is approximately similar in walking and running, should be equal.

Ah, well, I think that's our sticking point. You're talking about calorie consumption over the same distance, and I'm talking over the same time. I agree that with a constant *distance* you'll see only slightly greater calorie consumption by running faster.

But I'm assuming a constant amount of *time* running, not a constant amount of distance. And since you'll cover 4+ miles in 30 minutes at 7 minute pace, as opposed to 3 miles in 30 minutes at 10 minute pace, you'll burn over 33% more calories with the same length workout at that faster pace.

My nike kit was used today for the first time in weeks.
Ankle held up so I'll be increasing runs.
That 25,000 target felt like it was getting away. Not now
I should be able to take 1500 out of it.

Wonderful! Glad to have you back! Be smart about getting back in to it. Oh, and to strengthen your ankle practice balancing on just that leg. At first maybe just on even ground, then on a pillow, then on an inflatable disc (if you have one), and then on an inflatable disc with your eyes closed. Simple balancing practice really helps rebuild the small muscles in the ankle that stabilize you, so the next time your ankle starts to roll the wrong way, you'll be able to catch yourself.

 

[748s]

Ah, well, I think that's our sticking point. You're talking about calorie consumption over the same distance, and I'm talking over the same time. I agree that with a constant *distance* you'll see only slightly greater calorie consumption by running faster.

But I'm assuming a constant amount of *time* running, not a constant amount of distance. And since you'll cover 4+ miles in 30 minutes at 7 minute pace, as opposed to 3 miles in 30 minutes at 10 minute pace, you'll burn over 33% more calories with the same length workout at that faster pace.



Wonderful! Glad to have you back! Be smart about getting back in to it. Oh, and to strengthen your ankle practice balancing on just that leg. At first maybe just on even ground, then on a pillow, then on an inflatable disc (if you have one), and then on an inflatable disc with your eyes closed. Simple balancing practice really helps rebuild the small muscles in the ankle that stabilize you, so the next time your ankle starts to roll the wrong way, you'll be able to catch yourself.

Thanks.
It's tempting just to go crazy. I'm trying to ease back in.
Just got a local running magazine with a runners strength routine.
It has nothing for ankles
Your information will be put to good use.
Thanks again.

 

[twoodcc]

Thanks.
It's tempting just to go crazy. I'm trying to ease back in.
Just got a local running magazine with a runners strength routine.
It has nothing for ankles
Your information will be put to good use.
Thanks again.

yeah don't go too crazy
QC gives good advice, and that balancing does good things for more than just your ankle as well. i highly advice that also.

 

[Applespider]

I am still waiting for my Nano to be replaced by insurance company. So I'm still running but not getting any credit for it Hopefully by the end of this week <fingers crossed> so that I can write off Jan and restart in Feb...

 

[748s]

I am still waiting for my Nano to be replaced by insurance company. So I'm still running but not getting any credit for it Hopefully by the end of this week <fingers crossed> so that I can write off Jan and restart in Feb...

It's annoying watching all those miles getting away.
What generation nano?
Do you get a 3rd gen or do they search for the same model they are replacing?
Hope it arrives soon.

 

[Dr.Gargoyle]

Ah, well, I think that's our sticking point. You're talking about calorie consumption over the same distance, and I'm talking over the same time. I agree that with a constant *distance* you'll see only slightly greater calorie consumption by running faster.

We do agree. I must have been a bit unclear in my feeble attempt to explain calorie consumption relative speed/distance. However, certain that running implies a higher calorie consumption per distance. Still, in the long run a higher speed implies a larger muscle mass. Since muscle mass is energy consuming even at rest, this will result in a higher average calorie consumption per distance...

Hmmm I am not sure I made more sense this time. Let us just agree to agree.

 

[twoodcc]

I am still waiting for my Nano to be replaced by insurance company. So I'm still running but not getting any credit for it Hopefully by the end of this week <fingers crossed> so that I can write off Jan and restart in Feb...

yeah i do hate to see those miles get away from you. hopefully you're nano replacement will come in soon. we need all the miles we can get

 

[Applespider]

What generation nano?
Do you get a 3rd gen or do they search for the same model they are replacing?

It was a 2G silver 2GB so they should replace it with a 3G silver 4GB which I guess will be nice. It's just so frustrating to have to wait. I'd much rather have been able to go into a store, buy one and just get the cash later!

 

[twoodcc]

It was a 2G silver 2GB so they should replace it with a 3G silver 4GB which I guess will be nice. It's just so frustrating to have to wait. I'd much rather have been able to go into a store, buy one and just get the cash later!

yeah that would have been much better

 

[QCassidy352]

Your information will be put to good use.
Thanks again.

Glad to be of help. I should add that when you do these exercises, you should do a couple of sets at a time. So maybe balance for 20 seconds or so (or even longer, if you can), then put both feet down and take about the same time rest. Repeat 3 or 4 times (assuming your ankle isn't aching at that point). Oh, and you might as well do it on the healthy ankle as well, as a preventative measure.

Hmmm I am not sure I made more sense this time. Let us just agree to agree.

No no, I think you are making sense. And yes, I think we're in agreement now.

It was a 2G silver 2GB so they should replace it with a 3G silver 4GB which I guess will be nice. It's just so frustrating to have to wait. I'd much rather have been able to go into a store, buy one and just get the cash later!

Sorry to hear about all this trouble! I hope the new nano comes soon and you have no more problems.

 

[Dr.Gargoyle]

we need all the miles we can get

Right now, each person need to run 50% more miles or the challenge will fail.

 

[twoodcc]

Right now, each person need to run 50% more miles or the challenge will fail.

well that's not good. i'm doing about all i can right now. went for a long run this morning, my longest in a while

 

[iDAG]

well that's not good. i'm doing about all i can right now. went for a long run this morning, my longest in a while

I would use mine at practice but another person on my team brought their Nike+ earlier this month and my coach didn't like him wearing it so I'm trying to log as many of my own miles as I can...

 

[Dr.Gargoyle]

well that's not good. i'm doing about all i can right now. went for a long run this morning, my longest in a while

I would use mine at practice but another person on my team brought their Nike+ earlier this month and my coach didn't like him wearing it so I'm trying to log as many of my own miles as I can...

I have seen how much you guys run. Asking you to add 50% on top of that is crazy. Either we get more people or we somehow inspire infrequent runners to add more miles.
These are the only two ways as I see it.

 

[iDAG]

I have seen how much you guys run. Asking you to add 50% on top of that is crazy. Either we get more people or we somehow inspire infrequent runners to add more miles.
These are the only two ways as I see it.

My problem is more I don't need to run more miles than I do now its just now that track conditioning has started I can't use it at practice.

 

[twoodcc]

I would use mine at practice but another person on my team brought their Nike+ earlier this month and my coach didn't like him wearing it so I'm trying to log as many of my own miles as I can...

well why not just talk to your coach about it? just explain to him how nike+ works, and that it keeps up with your pace and distance and all that.

I have seen how much you guys run. Asking you to add 50% on top of that is crazy. Either we get more people or we somehow inspire infrequent runners to add more miles.
These are the only two ways as I see it.

yeah, we have too many runners with under 10 miles. if they could all just for a couple of runs....

 

[QCassidy352]

My problem is more I don't need to run more miles than I do now its just now that track conditioning has started I can't use it at practice.

how about if you use it without headphones? Just keep your nano clipped to your arm or belt or whatever and just use it like a watch. Do you think that would fly with your coach?

well that's not good. i'm doing about all i can right now. went for a long run this morning, my longest in a while

How long (just curious)? I'm also not about to add 50% to my milage.

 

[twoodcc]

how about if you use it without headphones? Just keep your nano clipped to your arm or belt or whatever and just use it like a watch. Do you think that would fly with your coach?

yeah, that's what i've said all along.

How long (just curious)? I'm also not about to add 50% to my milage.

well, it said on my nano over 14 miles, but that includes a little bit of walking afterwards. yeah, can't 50% here either.

 

[Dr.Gargoyle]

I'm also not about to add 50% to my milage.

yeah, can't 50% here either.

...and that leaves us with inspire/threat/encourage/intimidate existing/new people to add more miles. If we don't do anything soon we will be too far behind to have any chance to correct it later.

Perhaps starting some new threads to make sure that people are aware of the challenge? I don't know, but we better come up with something fast.

 

[twoodcc]

...and that leaves us with inspire/threat/encourage/intimidate existing/new people to add more miles. If we don't do anything soon we will be too far behind to have any chance to correct it later.

Perhaps starting some new threads to make sure that people are aware of the challenge? I don't know, but we better come up with something fast.

yeah we need to do something. i'm not sure what though. maybe an update from ziwi when you have time?

 

[ziwi]

I can not do 50% more - I think I already am...

The challenge was based on the last few months of last year and how we were getting close to 2,000 miles a month...probably around 1,700 and the decision was made to make it 25,000 miles figuring on new folks getting on board. I think that there is fluctuations in the early part of the year and we will see an improvment come March. Even with Desmonator going at full strength we would still be hard pressed - we will see what happens, but I think we need to find some more of these MacRumors folks and get them to run...maybe we can get some in that Nike+ PC vs. Mac challenge...

Today we should be at 1,913 miles

 

[Applespider]

I know some people already do it but how about trying to encourage everyone to put it in their sigs here with a note about the 25,000 miles? <in fact I'll do it as soon as I submit this>

I will most definitely be adding more than 50% of my Jan miles in February as soon as I have a darn Nano again. Although that still won't add too many unfortunately!

 

[ziwi]

I know some people already do it but how about trying to encourage everyone to put it in their sigs here with a note about the 25,000 miles? <in fact I'll do it as soon as I submit this>

I will most definitely be adding more than 50% of my Jan miles in February as soon as I have a darn Nano again. Although that still won't add too many unfortunately!

good idea!

 

[twoodcc]

I know some people already do it but how about trying to encourage everyone to put it in their sigs here with a note about the 25,000 miles? <in fact I'll do it as soon as I submit this>

I will most definitely be adding more than 50% of my Jan miles in February as soon as I have a darn Nano again. Although that still won't add too many unfortunately!

good idea.

yeah, maybe invite some from the pc vs mac nike challenge? but they aren't really from here though.

 

[iDAG]

well why not just talk to your coach about it? just explain to him how nike+ works, and that it keeps up with your pace and distance and all that.

how about if you use it without headphones? Just keep your nano clipped to your arm or belt or whatever and just use it like a watch. Do you think that would fly with your coach?

My coach doesn't even know how an iPod works! He doesn't own one and my coach is a great coach don't get me wrong but he is very technology retarded. My coach is one of those coaches that love nature a little to much.