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OLED iPad Pro Users Report 'Grainy' Displays, But It May Not Be a Defect

Alwis said:
I tried to take same photos of the screen of my 11" M4 iPad Pro, admittedly, not very good...

I suppose you could argue, that there ist some grain, but it is not visible at all with the naked eye. Maybe it is because individual pixels are visible or because of some moiré effect. Whatever, I really like the display, it is a hughe improvement to my 2017 iPad Pro and better than the display of my wife's 2020 iPad Air.

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Sorry to revive this month old topic. Can you tell me under which conditions you took that photo?

- Ambient light
- Camera
- iPad brightness settings

etc

I just got the iPP M4 and want to do the same thing to see what panel quality lottery it is. Thank you!

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This is my initial photos using an iPhone 12 mini telephoto lens at around a hands length from the iPP 13" M4 display (battery manufactured April). Display brightness 25-30%. iPhone camera brightness intake to 40% (the brightness slider). Ambient light super low, only light a little light bleed from curtains as it is morning outside.

Results: With my naked eye I could definitely see grains when looking closely. But at regular viewing distances it is not noticeable or barely if I squint? The photo does exaggerate what I see with the naked eye a lot. For example there are no grid patterns on the orange "G" profile picture with the naked eye. And the grainyness below the "Write" is does not exist with the naked eye.

What I really see with the naked eye is similar to the area in the green circle in the 2nd photo and it is not even that pronounced. The camera picks up way more detail, you can even see the pixels in the white text in the photo, it is barely visible with the naked eye.

But there definitely are grains. So I am not sure if this is what the people that say their panel is good sees or this is a "grainy" panel since it I can only see them when going up close and its less prominent than in the photos.

If this is considered an averagely good panel I will keep it. If this is considered a "grainy" panel I will return it.


PS: For reference the third image is of an M1 MacBook Air. I cannot see grains there even up close, but the iPhone 12 mini camera produce a grainy image result.

So:
1st image - OLED
2nd image - naked eye OLED reference (but still exaggerated)
3rd image - LCD (you can see the grains when zooming close at the grey areas, but they are not visible with the naked eye so I don't know if I can't see it or the iPhone camera resolution produced it)

PS 2: Also I forgot to mention that I have a glass screen protector on so I do not know if it has any effect on the grains or not. I did not look at this issue before putting the screen protector on.
 

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Haiku_Oezu said:
The Steam Deck OLED has the same thing, you only notice it if you go looking for it in uniform gray areas
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Gray areas is the key term as the graininess is not visible on other colors
After checking 10 M4 iPad Pro 13
I concluded that it’s a variant that all have to a degree some more so than others or perhaps because brightness was set differently etc
Conclusively…. It’s not worth worrying about as the overall screen is quite sharp and impressive in black saturation , clarity and intensity
 
bushman4 said:
Gray areas is the key term as the graininess is not visible on other colors
After checking 10 M4 iPad Pro 13
I concluded that it’s a variant that all have to a degree some more so than others or perhaps because brightness was set differently etc
Conclusively…. It’s not worth worrying about as the overall screen is quite sharp and impressive in black saturation , clarity and intensity
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I can see grains on every color with varying degrees, even the bright ones.
 
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bushman4 said:
Then you should get a different m4 iPad. Maybe you luck will be better
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Yeah I am returning it today and will wait maybe 2-3 months for them to sort out manufacturing and try again.
That or I could try to get one soon and hope that it comes with an LG panel (with the theory that LG makes more grain free panel than Samsung).
 
Gelam said:
Also I forgot to mention that I have a glass screen protector on so I do not know if it has any effect on the grains or not. I did not look at this issue before putting the screen protector on.
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I know the grain thing is real but maybe try without the screen protector as I've had one instance on an iPhone where adding protector's adhesive created a horrible grain effect. Might be exaggerating the issue.
 
Pug72 said:
I know the grain thing is real but maybe try without the screen protector as I've had one instance on an iPhone where adding protector's adhesive created a horrible grain effect. Might be exaggerating the issue.
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Thanks for that detail. I removed the screen protector before returning yesterday, the grain are still there and as prominent o_O.

Also the Apple store staff can see the issue as well and hopes that Apple can sort out the manufacturing down the line if this issue is fixable and no an inherent thing.

Also, in Thailand, I just found out that the precise manufacturing date is labeled on the box of every Apple product. Not sure if its the same case in other countries?
 
I'm also interested to see if the new ones are grain-free. I've been holding buying one till it's fixed.
 
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Isn't slight grain inherent in OLED, and PPI needs to be raised higher to disguise it from the human eye?
 
Exoid said:
I'm also interested to see if the new ones are grain-free. I've been holding buying one till it's fixed.
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Same here. I am waiting, but the student offer ends 21/10 and here in my country they're offering a free Apple Pencil Pro with the student discount. Have they fixed the grain issue? Or is it here to stay?
 
splifingate said:
Fixed?

I see nothing of this 🤷‍♂️
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I just got an 11” M4 around the holiday but it was manufactured in July . It’s definitely better than when I first tried it back when they released. Honestly I’ve gotten used to it and even noticed that my Apple Watch S9 has the same grain at low brightness.

My suggestion is the go in a dark room and set the brightness to around 20 percent and that’s the sweet spot for it being barely noticeable
 
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