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OLED iPad Pro Users Report 'Grainy' Displays, But It May Not Be a Defect
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It's not just an issue with Samsung OLED screen, check reddit on their new Micro LED 57" Neo with the same diagonal lines as the image in this post.
Yup, I have looked at most threads online about this, and not one person has posted a picture, not a screenshot, of their screen without this grain. Until I see it, I am not convinced it isn’t an aspect of all of these displays.
I would say this is the case as most iPhones have some grain effect under certain lighting and brightness conditions. This is the same concept as the vertical banding on OLED. Can I see some grain / screen door / battle ship door effect on my m4 iPad, sure. I can also show you m1 light bleed from the edges. This is a trade off, I had hopped they had the density of the display enough to mitigate the screen door effect from the back light but you know physics gonna phsycis. So there is no point in denying it, its real, can it be fixed most likely not, and judged by the not absolute rampant nature of this and the reddit posts, there is a percentage of people this bothers and for you, I am sorry, your options are the m2 pro or m2 air at this point and save coin. I file this with the PWM crew, it's real, it's bad for them, and I am sorry, however they are a small percentage of the population. I my self am in the I can see DLP rainbows portion of the population, so I know what it is like to be in the minority on display annoyance tech.
This is mine, I can't notice grain unless it's within 15 cm of my face and even then it's super subtle at most. I directly compared the 11" LCD and OLED, brightness on both screens are matched in line with the middle of the sun icon, so probably ~20%. Even in these photos it's slightly exaggerated from the camera.
Personally I would never consider it an issue, and literally forgot about it after day 1. I think it might be the highest quality display in existence right now. As a side note there's also not a trace of 'dirty screen' or banding on near-black grey slides, I don't know if any OLED has ever achieved that...
Thanks for taking the time to post these, it really helps to have the comparison of the two under similar conditions and with the same camera. It does clearly show the issue, when the iPad is used at a close distance at low brightness levels. The greys on the OLED are made up of a random dither, whilst on the IPS they are more uniform.
I noticed this immediately on first use under these conditions. I initially thought Apple had intentionally added a texture effect to reduce burn-in or something. Only then did I find the grain threads...
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Pretty much nailed of what I see. Obviously very upclose, but it can be seen in normal viewing distance given low ambient light AKA during late evenings and low iPad brightness itself. And then there is sensitivity of the eye, which in my case is a curse because I see such nuances immediately, like you.
All in all, I'm gonna take this over blooming and terrible ghosting of mini LED.
@IT Troll please post that reply in dedicated thread as well - https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/grainy-display-on-new-ipad-pro-m4.2426450/
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Care to share a picture? So far no one has posted a picture without it and those that said they didn’t have it ended up having it when they posted. Would be good to know if people should bother exchanging or all the displays exhibit this “feature”.
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Currently I do not have my iPad with me but I can try to make a picture in the next days. I doubt there will be anything to see. And even if there is some grain to see in a picture, as long as I do not notice it with my eyes (and wearing glasses
), I would not care.When setting up the new Pro I had it beside my 2017 Pro and this was a hughe difference, I always thought the display of the old iPad was quite good, but it looks like cheap rubbish compared to the new one!
that might be a good idea to reduce burn in by having a little grain that shifts position every 60 mins.
Darth Tulhu
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Let's not get caught up in semantics arguments.
This is the first iPad Apple (anyone?) has ever made that has dual OLED setup, the first super thin iPad, which necessitates a unique battery and internal component setup, etc., etc.
So OK, I'll say NEW generation.
True. But you could say that almost every new version of any Apple product comes with something that is “first”. The first 48MP camera. The first Titanium phone. The first 12.9” iPad. The first iPad with Mini LED. Etc. This doesn’t feel like a first gen product to me. In fact, it feels like iPad refined.
Would be nice if you could so we know there are good displays out there. Some people mentioned exchanging and getting good displays but no pictures posted. Mine is very faint unless I look real close in low brightness but I agree as long as you don’t see it that’s what matters. It’s still a very nice looking display.Currently I do not have my iPad with me but I can try to make a picture in the next days. I doubt there will be anything to see. And even if there is some grain to see in a picture, as long as I do not notice it with my eyes (and wearing glasses
When setting up the new Pro I had it beside my 2017 Pro and this was a hughe difference, I always thought the display of the old iPad was quite good, but it looks like cheap rubbish compared to the new one!
I have replaced a new one which is better than the first one. But I guess Brainly is a feature of OLED depends on how obvious it is.
Darth Tulhu
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Not really. Even Apple describes this iPad as 7th gen. So labeling it as 1st gen is a misnomer on my part, but my point is I rarely buy version 1 of a new gen right away.
To wit, I bought my M1 iPad Pro a year after release. My M2 MBA 6 months after release.
I wait to ensure the new devices don't have issues, like the infamous butterfly keyboard some people STILL defend here.
I tried to take same photos of the screen of my 11" M4 iPad Pro, admittedly, not very good...
I suppose you could argue, that there ist some grain, but it is not visible at all with the naked eye. Maybe it is because individual pixels are visible or because of some moiré effect. Whatever, I really like the display, it is a hughe improvement to my 2017 iPad Pro and better than the display of my wife's 2020 iPad Air.
I suppose you could argue, that there ist some grain, but it is not visible at all with the naked eye. Maybe it is because individual pixels are visible or because of some moiré effect. Whatever, I really like the display, it is a hughe improvement to my 2017 iPad Pro and better than the display of my wife's 2020 iPad Air.
Perhaps Apple just need to raise the PPI to hide the grain and make it look as sharp? Like they raised the PPI on the iPhone...