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OLED iPad Pro Users Report 'Grainy' Displays, But It May Not Be a Defect

G5isAlive said:
I’ll give you an apology when you tell me which oled iPad Pro you personally own and returned for a bad screen, until then I stand by what I said then and now. Cheers.
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That doesn't make any sense.

FACT: there is an OLED grain-issue on a fraction of panels. Grain is erroneously pronounced in some panels.

When I tried explaining it was a manufacturing defect, you then dismissed me, told me it was "highly subjective and only evident under a very contrived situation." You kept saying this because of solipsism—you couldn't imagine other iPad Pro users had different quality panels, and were having a worse experience other than your own.

Correcting you was an exercise in frustration. Today you change your tune and I'm so proud of you.
 
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PaperMag said:
Why are you being difficult about this? A small percentage of panels are coming out of the factory seemingly poorly implemented, causing grain on a small percentage of iPad Pros. This is a quality control issue. Exchanging for another panel seems to be resolving the issue.

If your OLED panel doesn't have the grain issue, then you won the panel lottery.
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I meant when working as intended. If some people have faulty units, that's a different story, and I feel bad for them. Still, whenever screens are involved, some people look for uniformity issues with a magnifying glass.
 
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Everything that exists should have eye grain and film grain anyway. We have been spoiled and brainwashed by that digital super clean smoothed oversaturated look.

Make Grain Britain Tidy. Make Grain Great Again. Grain to the Future. Grain Different. Enjoy Grain. Raiders of the Lost Grain. Lord of the Grains. Grain with the Wind.
 
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jmgregory1 said:
Can I ask, what were you expecting the difference to be? I’m an M1 12.9” iPP user upgrading to the M4 13” (1TB matte screen) and I don’t expect the OLED screen to be much different than the mini-LED screen. I do expect to get better battery life, as well as it being lighter (paired with the MK) and the nano-textured matte screen will also be a great upgrade. Of course the M1 iPP has been and continues to be a fantastic device - one of the best Apple products I’ve owned over the past 30+ years, so the tweaks Apple has made with the M4 iPP should just make it that much better, imho.
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it‘s not a big upgracde honestly, OLED isn’t new. Apple should have had it years ago. I have a m2, so I can undrqerstand why people aren’t jumping.
 
It was rough to read this entire thread, so much banter and emotional defensiveness.

Do we have any data yet on which panel size and which panel manufacturer this issue is arising on? I saw that only Samsung makes the 11 inch panel and a lot of people are having issues. But I also saw that some 13 inch users have issues also. It would be good to see a chart with panel type and grainy or not grainy issues..

I for one I’m holding off purchasing because there is a chance to get a grainy display, and I know I can easily return it, but that’s way too much hassle for me. I unfortunately don’t have the time to go through the return and replace process and I rather wouldn’t buy one in the first place.

Hopefully future manufacturing versions can get sorted out.
 
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fakestrawberryflavor said:
It was rough to read this entire thread, so much banter and emotional defensiveness.

Do we have any data yet on which panel size and which panel manufacturer this issue is arising on? I saw that only Samsung makes the 11 inch panel and a lot of people are having issues. But I also saw that some 13 inch users have issues also. It would be good to see a chart with panel type and grainy or not grainy issues..

I for one I’m holding off purchasing because there is a chance to get a grainy display, and I know I can easily return it, but that’s way too much hassle for me. I unfortunately don’t have the time to go through the return and replace process and I rather wouldn’t buy one in the first place.

Hopefully future manufacturing versions can get sorted out.
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Same here. I really want to upgrade my 11” iPad Pro, but I’ve dealt with defective Apple products in the past, and it’s always a hassle. Data on this would be helpful, a statement from Apple would be even better (not holding my breath).
 
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Same Grainy Issue On 13" iPad.You have to look close to the display, and it happens to all colours.
More serious issue on grey color + low brightness
 

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Looking at the iFixit teardown at 01:16 the grainy issue may be a result of the backlit OLED cell layer
 
G5isAlive said:
the answer is how does it look to YOU? If you see it, and it bothers you, return it. If not, then you can relax :)
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Point well taken. With 2 different manufacturers of the OLED panels it hard to say if this is present in both.
It’s hard to believe Apple engineers and associates played with these iPads for months and nobody noticed it
Apple knows that their customers are finicky over perfection. Let’s see what Apple says.
Lastly if you bought an IPad Pro and are not happy with the’graininess’ bring it back!!!!
 
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technoholic said:
As I said, I know what I saw, 2 very different panels, doesn’t really matter what anyone else thinks, I’m surprised at the difference between a good and bad panel and people can call it what they want, or not call it anything, I just know, I had a defective screen, now I have a good screen. That’s all I care about!
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Can you please take a close-up pic in the settings or calendar apps like the photos above at 40% brightness? Nearest Apple store is 2 hours drive to compare with other units & replace mine..
 
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qoodanny said:
Same Grainy Issue On 13" iPad.You have to look close to the display, and it happens to all colours.
More serious issue on grey color + low brightness
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I agree, the more i use mine the more i see it no matter the color with shades of grey being the most obvious.
It’s one of those things you notice and cannot unsee once you know it’s there.

anyone with non-issue could post an example of their screen?
 
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I have a minor amount of grain I can see right now, I will try in a dark room tonight, I will try at different power levels. I have extreme grain on my iPhone 15 pro in lower power settings, I even have ghosting on it at times. This is the nature of the beast a bit with OLED. That is not to excuse the poor yield lottery they have going on but there will be some trade offs. The blooming is traded for screen door effect and grain. The grain is traded to LCD for blooming and like bleed. So pick your poison and keep your guard up, seems there are some suspect panels floating around
 
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BorisDG said:
That's weird considering my 14 Pro screen is fantastic in this regard. I never had so good OLED screen on phone or other device.
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Well, there is a lottery going on, there is always a lottery with OLED, some times you win and sometimes you loose. That is just the nature of the game. I am so glad you had a good screen. I had a great screen on my 13 pro. I have just accepted there will be variance and when the variance is to much i return it and wait a year or try again in a few months as the production line clears out the rush for initial orders.


I have screen door effect on this ipad, i had extreme right light bleed on my m1 on any low light scene of video. So you take the good with the bad.
 
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I have the issue on my 11" Pro. I think I can live with it but I honestly don't know how anyone could use this for any serious image editing. Basically unusable for that purpose if you can't be sure the grain is from the display or the image itself.
 
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