I don’t really care what people do or think but I know I had a problem, side by side, one was fine, one was completely different. Now I have a new one and the problem isn’t there apart from the colour temperature being off. Whether it was an isolated incident or not, not for me to say. What I don’t understand is other people being so sure of the fact that no one else could potentially have a problem just because they don’t. Like, psychologically what must be going on to have that kind of thought process.
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OLED iPad Pro Users Report 'Grainy' Displays, But It May Not Be a Defect
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I love Apple products, I've spent probably $50k over the years on their products and I do not run a business.
But at the same time, I don't see them as perfect or infallible.
They can and do make mistakes. Their products can actually have issues, without it being user error or customers "looking for problems"
Some people have issues with their OLED panels on these new iPads, and have them without looking for them. If you don't, good for you. It helps nobody to disparage those who have the issue though!
But at the same time, I don't see them as perfect or infallible.
They can and do make mistakes. Their products can actually have issues, without it being user error or customers "looking for problems"
Some people have issues with their OLED panels on these new iPads, and have them without looking for them. If you don't, good for you. It helps nobody to disparage those who have the issue though!
See my pics a few pages back. Both mine have been so far past normal “OLED warmth” that it’s strange.
Whether it changes with software I don’t know but using accessibility and changing the tint settings makes it acceptable
Well they're not the best if the display is in quite a big respect sub-par to what they owned previously.
"It's a magical sheet of glass" ... with grainy colours.
Really? With my new Samsung Tab S9 (AMOLED) tablet, went to MacRumors forums and looked at similar pages with brightness down to 25%, even with a magnifying glass and it looks perfectly normal. 50% brightness...normal. 100% brightness...normal. Paid $199 with trade-in.
This is called OLED Mura, all OLED screen exhibit this and it’s more noticeable the lower the PPI of the display is. My iPad 11” has no noticeable Mura even in the dark at lowest brightness and I’m very happy! But it makes sense it would be easier to spot than on a crazy high dpi iPhone.
My OLED switch on the other hand, it’s pretty rough at 720p. I have to keep the brightness at least a quarter way up for solid colors to be smooth again. Still way better than LCD!
edit: on the lowest brightness, in a pitch black room, in very special circumstances like solid 5% grey if I look reeeallly close I can spot some subtle Mura where I can’t on my iPhone. In real world usage it’s impossible to notice. I wonder if we’ll eventually get 3x iPads
My OLED switch on the other hand, it’s pretty rough at 720p. I have to keep the brightness at least a quarter way up for solid colors to be smooth again. Still way better than LCD!
edit: on the lowest brightness, in a pitch black room, in very special circumstances like solid 5% grey if I look reeeallly close I can spot some subtle Mura where I can’t on my iPhone. In real world usage it’s impossible to notice. I wonder if we’ll eventually get 3x iPads
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I have multiple OLED screens. While it is possible there are ways to make them all exhibit it, there is a key difference here. The new iPad Pro is exhibiting it for some customers without them doing anything "odd" with their displays. It is an obvious issue for some.
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This is what I’m worried about as well. Grays on my old iPhone X look quite green and sickly….
Apple should have marketed the display as FineWoven.
I have a similar issue on my PSVR2 headset called mura. It is very annoying in dark scenes because it appears like something grainy was put over your face. I was told that Sony did not want to use a better OLED display or do per panel pixel adjustment a to save on costs. I am hoping that this can be fixed via software on these iPads because I feel sorry for the buyers.
don't use the word 'grainy' and insult the rice. rice can feed a family. a grainy ipad screen is nothing compared to rice.
I did wonder if this would be an issue with iPads, I found it was the case with earlier OLED phones. I understand it's not necessarily to do with pixel density as such (though higher pixel density does help) but fill density, or how much of the substrate is covered by the sub pixels. Apple worked hard to maximise the fill density of the iPhone X panel and alongside the very high pixel density this disguised the grainy appearance that was a key drawback of early PenTile OLEDs. You can really see the difference on the iPhone green subpixles in particular that are much larger and squarer than on other phones. With the iPads although they seem to have a (novel) RGB sub pixel layout, it doesn't look like Apple have been able to get as good a fill density as on the iPhone panels.
Indeed. And I've long thought that an industry that's already spent goodness knows how many billions perfecting OLED probably doesn't have much of an appetite to spend it all again and usurp the tech with a new panel type that will last two or three times longer. Video processing on the newest TV's is already so astonishing that worn out panels might be the only reason a lot of consumers choose to upgrade in the coming years. OLED is here to stay for a long while yet. And since it's awesome that's no bad thing in my books.
If they are complaining now, wait until they see the nano-textured etched glass. That makes everything look fuzzy and defeats the benefit of the Retina display.
Any time I would look at the Nano-textured glass on the Studio Display in the Apple Store, I thought it was awful. It made everything look fuzzy and blurry, particularly text. You would have to really prioritize a non-reflective finish to want it. It gave me eye strain just looking at it for a short time.
In either case, the "OLED lottery" is part of why I'm not convinced that OLED is the superior display technology. It may be so on paper, but not in practice. Yes, I can see blooming on my mini-LED MacBook Pro when there's white text against a black background and I'm using the screen in a dark room. But this is a very specific instance, and even then it doesn't bother me. I feel like a red-tinted or grainy display would.
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And when you add the green tint issue (which affects Steam Deck also)...
Which S9 did you go for and how do you like it? Samsung is offering more for trading in my 2018 iPad Pro than Apple is...
I’m hesitant to say OLED grain is “normal”, but it kind of is, especially as the panel size increases and DPI decreases. Comparable to a plasma panel. Generally, the larger the screen, the larger the pixels which exacerbates the issue.
You almost never see grain on phones, start to see it on tablet-sized panels, and then it’s prominent by the time you’re at a computer-monitor sized panel (24”). It would make sense that grain is more prominent on the 13” vs the 11”, but I imagine the difference is quite small. Could be different manufacturers as well.
You almost never see grain on phones, start to see it on tablet-sized panels, and then it’s prominent by the time you’re at a computer-monitor sized panel (24”). It would make sense that grain is more prominent on the 13” vs the 11”, but I imagine the difference is quite small. Could be different manufacturers as well.
My LG OLED sometimes does this on specific gray gradients. You don't notice it unless you look for it.
I see the grain on my M4 11” iPad pro. I’m not wearing my eyeglasses and it’s noticeable. I don’t see this on my 14” MBP and that is not OLED. Whether it is a defect or an inherent trait of these iPad OLED panels, it’s distracting. I will return mine later today. For those with a perfect panel, don’t notice, or can tolerate it, then great for you. But some of us aren’t in that camp.
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According to JRE on YouTube, “a lot of this new iPads will come with imperfections right out the box”.
People are paying $tupid money 4 this $tupid imperfec iPad?????? $tupid people need to wake up.
People are paying $tupid money 4 this $tupid imperfec iPad?????? $tupid people need to wake up.