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if next big ipad pro will not come with oled but with mini-led than all this is BS for the macbook pro. Oled should come in the cheaper models like ipad/macbook Airs

pro displays for longer use of time should remain on mini-led...improve that with even more local dimming zones
 
All of Apple’s OLED displays bring eye-strain and other negative health effects because Apple uses PWM. Please research this if you aren’t familiar. It’s very sad that Apple continues to make our eyes bleed with this technology.

If they are going to use these types of displays they should, at a minimum, comply with the IEEE PAR1789 standard for flickering light.
 
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Apple's upcoming iPad Pro models with OLED displays will be followed by sequential OLED MacBook Pro and OLED MacBook Air launches over the next three years, according to analyst Jeff Pu from Haitong International Technology Research.

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In a new investor memo seen by MacRumors, Pu said Apple intends to update the 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with OLED screens sometime in 2026, which tallies with the timeframe previously predicted by Ross Young of research firm Display Supply Chain Consultants.

Pu also reiterated widely rumored next-generation 11-inch and 13-inch iPad Pro models launching in 2024 that will also be equipped with OLED displays, with Apple aiming to ship 10 million units in the first year.

There are currently no Macs or iPads with OLED displays. Compared to current iPad Pro and MacBook Pro models with LCD-based mini-LED screens, benefits of OLED technology would include increased brightness, higher contrast ratio with deeper blacks, improved power efficiency for longer battery life, and more.

Pu also said that Apple is actively developing an OLED screen for the MacBook Air, although the release of the OLED MacBook Pro is expected to come first. Previous reports have suggested that Samsung Display is developing a 13.3-inch OLED panel for a future MacBook Air model amid Apple's plans to switch several of its product lines to the display technology.

Article Link: OLED iPad Pros, MacBook Pros, MacBook Airs to Launch in That Order

Man, we just love hearing about vapor wear.....:rolleyes:
 
It looks like I will keep using my M1 Max MacBook Pro until the OLED MacBook Pro lineup is ready for launch. I can't wait for the big launch of the M5/M6 Max MacBook Pro with an OLED screen.

yup, that helps put urge to upgrade firmly back in the box. I'm happy with my 16" M1 Max MBP and am content to wait until 2026 for something that is so very much better ;)

If I was to indulge myself, it would probably be MBA as a second and much more portable device - I've become used to larger screen sizes so that would likely be the 15" - perhaps a refurb M1 would be OK.
 
Hear me out. What if Apple made an e-ink iPad made specifically for news+. E-ink corp supplies Amazon, kobo etc.
I just want a great ebook for reading classic books, and saved articles. I still have yet to find a great one! Most are barely ok and are clearly designed by people who have no clue what makes a great hardware product.

Apple’s display could achieve true white and black without needing a backlight or flicker.

How? E-Ink Corp. control all of the electronic ink display patents. Also, how would Apple achieve true white and black? What are you basing this assertion on? Besides, the white and black levels of the current crop of e-Ink readers isn't the predominant shortcoming of these readers at all. And yes, I would like coloured book covers and coloured illustrations, but that would be a bonus, it's not the main issue either.

My problems are the crappy software and tone deaf hardware design. E-Ink readers are needlessly complex for something that is basically a one trick pony. The screen is not the real issue. Basic stuff such as on screen buttons having too small touch targets. The batteries are too small. Screens are too small. The silly bezels are not needed at all. Simple things like page numbers don't exist on many of these readers. These devices should have rubber cases and should be virtually indestructible to dropping, just like real books. If a great eBook reader was made there should be virtually no reason to continue to want paper books. The problem is there is no great one. I find it frustrating.

It's like these eBook reader designers don't use their own product. They are too cheap and too crap. I believe if one cost $400 (even $499) but was an order of magnitude better for book reading then people would buy it. And make buying new batteries directly from the maker super easy and installation would be four screws on the back and pop out the old battery and pop in the new one. People could have it for decades. Give it speakers and a high-impedance headphone jack, as well as the latest Bluetooth, Wifi and USB-4 for charging and data. Compelling and future proofed, with a decent processor.

My wish would be there was an eBook reader you could buy that came with every classic novel in the world bundled. 10" display with virtually no bezel in a similar aspect ratio as a standard paperback book. More narrow than the typical reader; designed to mimic the size and experience of a paperback. Thicker and more robust with humungous battery life. Rubber casing that allows the device to be dropped, and can be easily removed to unscrew the back aluminium casing for replacing the battery. The new owner could login to the device and all of those classic books would be waiting for them with quaint covers ready to read without needing to download a single book. Great simple software with large touch targets and intuitive menus. A good gift experience for someone. No internet required, unless the user wishes to purchase any newer modern book. Intuitive navigation more akin to the Apple Books app. Simple page numbers. Ability to see the total pages in a book by tapping the page number. Ability to easily turn off or adjust header formatting—name of book—name of chapter. Elegant font choices with an intuitive and quick way to adjust all of that. And potentially voice acted audio books for all of the built in classic books. Not AI or machine learning text to speech, but real voice actors who know the story and characters inside out and are directed by experts in literature and theatre to act out the intended meaning and emotional capacity of the book in audio form—highlighting each word on the page so the reader can read along and improve their reading skills.

You know, a good book reader. Alas.
 
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The problem is there is no great one. I mean, so frustrating. It's like these eBook reader designers don't use their own product. They are too cheap and too crap.

That's by design. They are ment to push buying eBooks, so teh reader needs to be a cheap loss leader to get pople in teh system and buying the higher margin eBooks. An expensive one would compete with tablets and likely be a very niche unprofitable product.
 
Okay so, as someone who finds OLED screens uncomfortable, I’ll be that guy getting the last LCD Apple device, hoping for them to last as long as possible. I already have the iPhone SE 3 (a deliciously compact device), an 11” M2 iPad Pro, and my last purchase will probably be either a maxed out 12” MacBook (if Apple reintroduces it again), or an M3Pro/M4 Mac mini with an Apple Studio Display.

And I’m really crossing my fingers for those devices to be supported by Apple software at least until 2030, without loosing a lot of features (I already assume that I’m not going to fully enjoy the upcoming generative AI features coming on iOS 18, at least locally). We’ll see, I just hope Apple doesn’t expel me from their ecosystem and by then, we will have microLED, and that technology will be easier on my eyes than OLED.

But… what am I doing worrying about 2030 tech?! Maybe there’s a new leading tech company by then! Or maybe I’m blind or dead, who knows! I should worry less about the far future, because a cataclysm such as a new world war, or an intense solar flare could send us back to the pre-digital era.

So I’m buying the latest tech with LCD, and enjoy it while they last. Some of us should learn to live in the present moment. I swear I try.
 
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All of Apple’s OLED displays bring eye-strain and other negative health effects because Apple uses PWM. Please research this if you aren’t familiar. It’s very sad that Apple continues to make our eyes bleed with this technology.
AFAIK Apple cheaped out and most (all?) recent (last 5 years) Macs with built-in LCD displays use PWM, too.
 
In some ways and inferior in others. Like many things in life, there are trade offs. I much prefer to have a quality mini-led screen for a computer. I say this as someone who ownes an OLED TV.
Quite right, and not everybody wants the same thing. On a computer display I hate local dimming.
 
yup, that helps put urge to upgrade firmly back in the box. I'm happy with my 16" M1 Max MBP and am content to wait until 2026 for something that is so very much better ;)

If I was to indulge myself, it would probably be MBA as a second and much more portable device - I've become used to larger screen sizes so that would likely be the 15" - perhaps a refurb M1 would be OK.
I completely agree. The M1 Pro/Max will be serviceable many years into the future.
 
hello, I am dumb. will OLED bring ProMotion to the MB Air as well ?
thank you for educating me
Eventually all Apple devices will have 120 Hz variable displays. Whether it comes in gen 1 OLED for MBA or get 5 is unknown at this point. Personally I think Apple should use the cheaper display tech on MBA to keep pricing down.
 
I've been following developments in OLED technology for a while. The technical press tells a completely different story than the popular press and advertising. No one has solved the burn-in problem, especially for blue LEDs. Over the past ten years, there have been enormous advances in understanding the burn-in problem, but no practical mitigations. So OLED is suitable for TV and some kinds of games, but not for desktop/laptop use.
As one commenter pointed out in a different forum, "The industry is really excited to fix the problem they created with LCDs that last a decade without any issues."
 
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can they also make it a tiiiny bit thinner pleaseee :D they're still a bit too thick for my taste (i admit i'm finicky).

but otherwise yes i would love to have an OLED screen
 
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