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I thought the notch would bother me, coming from an Intel 16" MBP to the new M4 Pro 14", but it doesn't at all. In fact now when I'm on the old Intel (like now), the notchless blank space at the top looks a bit weird!
I hate it since 2021 not gotten used to it, it makes all wallpapers ugly, its not needed the webcam is bad and all windows laptops have it in small bezel
 
It hasn’t really got any better this using OLED screens with PC laptop. Gamers are still quite OK with mini-LED laptop displays for their power efficiency and no burn-in.
The battery may take a baseball to the face, so to speak. Again, that’s not always so, as the aforementioned Asus Zenbook 14 OLED can last up to 16 hours with light use. But a high-end machine like the more expensive HP Spectre x360 14 ($1,819.99) that we reviewed in March, which has a higher resolution OLED display (2880×1800), only lasted about 11 hours.
 
And you expect the best display on Apple device because why? It is Apple?
That’s exactly why actually.
For example, notice Apple wouldn’t even switch the iPad to OLED… until there were absolutely no trade-offs over LCD.
No brightness trade-offs, no burn-in trade-offs no battery life trade offs.
As far as I can tell, that iPad OLED is still the best OLED display on the market, at least according to reviews.
 
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Thanks, but until burn-in issues are resolved, it better stay off my Mac
Please show us a trend in Windows OLED laptops that are suffering from burn-in. Do you have a Windows laptop with OLED? I do. I have 2. Both are ASUS and both are spectacular 3K 120Hz OLED's and both were around $500 each with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD. One has Snapdragon ARM chip and gets about 12 hours battery life. The screen has a built in OLED care that kicks in after 30 minutes of idle time. Windows and Mac allow you to hide your menu bar. Y'all are missing out on OLED while Apple "perfects it", but at what cost? Imagine the cost of an OLED-based Apple MacBook!!
 
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That’s exactly why actually.
For example, notice Apple wouldn’t even switch the iPad to OLED… until there were absolutely no trade-offs over LCD.
No brightness trade-offs, no burn-in trade-offs no battery life trade offs.
As far as I can tell, that iPad OLED is still the best OLED display on the market, at least according to reviews.
It's also the most expensive tablet on the market and out of the reach of most people. With Apple, affordability is definitely an OLED trade-off.
 
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There’s a few things that are a bit disappointing here…

- It will be a 2.5 year gap between the iPad Pro getting tandem OLED, and the MacBook Pro getting it. Considering the £1,299 13” iPP has this tech, I feel like creating 14/16” variants can surely be done at current price points without too much loss in margins?

- The 2021 MBPs felt absolutely cutting edge, whereas a 2.5 year delay compared to the iPP feels sluggish. I guess they’re doing this in order to enjoy good margins from the mini-LED panels for a few extra years, and timing the move to OLED with the c.5 year design refresh cycle.

I would much rather Apple continued to be aggressive with MBP upgrades as they were in 2021 and really go after the Pro market. These decisions on delaying OLED, moving to a thinner enclosure, imply a shift back towards the 2016 MBP ideology. Apple should let the Pro models be the most “Pro” they can be, instead of making a confused product like the 2016 MBP which was tried to blur the lines of Pro and Consumer (and failed).
 
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First time in my life that I'm going to say that a much thinner MBP is needed, although I'm not saying it because of thinness, but because of weight: The 16-inch MBP is way heavier than its Intel predecessor. Going thinner may help it be lighter as well, so I'm all for it. Actually, I'd vote for it being thick and light, but Apple doesn't understand those words, so just saying "thin" they might provide lightness.
 
Do we need thinner MacBooks? They are thin enough.
They are pretty thick actually, and heavy. I'd love a thinner 16 inch MacBook Pro Max. I'd love the dual layer OLED too. But it'd going to take me years until I pay off my current MBP Max, so it doesn't really affect me if Apple make this now or not. I'm just thankful that it even has mini LED backlighting so at least the HDR is decent. Micro LED or OLED would have been better, but oh well.
 
In the name of thinness and lightness, we got the worst MacBook keyboard ever. A bit thinner and a bit lighter is fine, but I'd strongly prefer Apple not strive for the "thinnest and lightest laptop we've ever made" on their PRO line.

I thought the sun had set on making laptops "as thin and light as possible". I can understand it for the AIR line, but not the PRO line.

I care about a quality keyboard and thermals more than I care about the thickness and weight of the PRO line - again it makes sense for the MBA's.

Also, let's not go back to just having Thunderbolt ports on the laptops. That really hinders their portability. You have to have a dongle for everything and just results in more overall crap you have to pack/travel with (and more weight).
 
M1 Max is fast enough for 99% of people and there has been like zero upgrades, new colour yes and slightly brighter display that’s just a system software lock, with apps like vivid add brightness to M1 MacBooks so yeah m2 to m4 has been not worth it
You no longer need to spend that much to get the same performance, the M4 pro is more then good enough.
 
do you use the menu bar? if you hide it and go full screen you get 16:10 with a black strip along the top

Really? Are you sure?
It doesn't seem like that's the case unless I'm missing something?

Screen resolutions:

14" MBP: 3024/1964 = 1.5397148676
16" MBP: 3456/2234 = 1.5470008953

16/10 = 1.6
 
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