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That's a narrow view of what style is. Where would you categorize me? I have on brown Steve Madden sneakers, darker-brown slacks, a black undershirt, a light brown bowling shirt with cream wings, black-framed glasses, and I sport a short faux-hawk. Hell, that's just today. What about my friend that's wearing sandals, a long ruffle skirt,a tie-dyed shirt, and has dreadlocks? What about my other friend that's wearing red Chuck Taylor's, bluejeans, a black undershirt, a dress shirt with rolled up sleaves, and has bleached spiked hair? I got the majority of my clothes from *gasp* J.C. Penneys because my girlfriend's mom works there and we get a discount. How does that factor in to your convoluted view of fashion?

you may be lost?
 
I'm enjoy this thread very much....I'm rooting for ya buddy!


Let's leave the rooting to him. Ghall, wear something that fits your personality and that is comfortable. There's nothing worse than seeing someone who has clearly been dressed by a friend and doesn't suit their clothing style at all. Whatever you do, don't get fashion advice from MacRumors, especially the American members! :)
 
Well there are a few options

1) Preppy
2) Emo
3) Goth
4) Scene
5) Wal-Mart
6) Athletic clothes only

I don't think he would get good attention being 2 or 3 and I don't think he would fit into groups 2-4. 5 is what he should be avoiding. 6 is just stupid and shows a girl you have no sense of style #1 I think fits the best, and girls like it.

I hate to think what that makes me.....in no way do I fit in any of those groups
 
That's a narrow view of what style is. Where would you categorize me? I have on brown Steve Madden sneakers, darker-brown slacks, a black undershirt, a light brown bowling shirt with cream wings, black-framed glasses, and I sport a short faux-hawk. Hell, that's just today. What about my friend that's wearing sandals, a long ruffle skirt,a tie-dyed shirt, and has dreadlocks? What about my other friend that's wearing red Chuck Taylor's, bluejeans, a black undershirt, a dress shirt with rolled up sleaves, and has bleached spiked hair? I got the majority of my clothes from *gasp* J.C. Penneys because my girlfriend's mom works there and we get a discount. How does that factor in to your convoluted view of fashion?

I don't even know what all the dress categories represent, let alone how anyone would fit into them. I suspect, though, that Ghall would have told us if he is a fashion iconoclast with a dashing personal style. Perhaps that is what he meant by "nerd," but I believe the forums members think it is not.
 
To the OP: Congrats. However, I've always known that girls, even hot ones, aren't the hostile creatures that most guys make them out to be.

I'm not surprised that she didn't reject you.
 
hoping Ghall has success.

reading this thread brings me back to the day....

ah...to be young again with our experiences :)

yeah i sometimes wish i could go back and do high school over again only knowing what i know now, how much easier that woulda been...
 
Well there are a few options

1) Preppy
2) Emo
3) Goth
4) Scene
5) Wal-Mart
6) Athletic clothes only

I don't think he would get good attention being 2 or 3 and I don't think he would fit into groups 2-4. 5 is what he should be avoiding. 6 is just stupid and shows a girl you have no sense of style #1 I think fits the best, and girls like it.

Or he could just buy what he thinks is cool.

You're way too into (bad) fashion. I don't even know which category I'd fall into. However, to the OP, I would suggest that he not care so much about it.

A lot of guys who are considered "unattractive" are actually in no way ugly, but rather, carry themselves in an unattractive way.

....(snip)...

Even the most unattractive guy can be moved up in ratings by a couple full points if they're well-groomed, well-dressed and well-put-together. The unfortunate thing is, especially amongst "nerds", most only dress up for special occassions....

I agree. Most nerds seem to dress as though it only has to be utilitarian. Lots of ugly guys dress in expensive gear and pull off the cool look. They even get hot girls.

I'm not suggesting that you dress up in crazy expensive clothes, or follow trends. You don't have to shop where everyone else shops to look cool. Just do this:

1. Pay attention to your hair and your face. People look at your face quite often. ;) The glasses you wear will get more attention than the brand of jeans you wear, or the type of mobile you own.

2. Look at how your clothing fits. I don't care what brand your clothing is; if it doesn't fit well, it doesn't look good. Wear what you want. Just pay more attention to the fit, and to things like colour. Don't be bland with colour, but be careful. Before you buy a shirt, think to yourself "Does this shirt go with ANY of my pants?" If it does, then get it.

I don't wear/own clothes from expensive brands, and I still get complements from girls on my stuff. It has gotten to the point where people ask me where I got my $10 scarf. Why? Because it's orange, white, and brown, and IMO, cool because it's not bland. Fit and the choice of colour go a long way. ;)
 
i think you're going to make more nerd history by having a thread about asking a girl out thats over 6 pages long
 
Take the ugly one on a date too. If the hot girl bites and goes with you, make sure to turn down her first suggestion on when to meet up. Why? Because you're "busy". Let her know (without directly telling her) that your free time is valuable. Have her meet up with you for coffee or something (DO NOT PAY FOR HERS!!). Tell her you can only chill for like 30 minutes because you have to run off to do/meet up with/etc. (insert event here). Chat and have some fun.

Actually, I would advise against that. I don't know why so many guys think the whole jealousy thing works, because it really doesn't. All it does is pushing people away. I don't know a single girl who prefers a guy who goes out with other girls and have no time for her, even if it's just pretend. Here's the thing (I'll just me as an example):
1) If I don't like you, I really don't care who you go out with or how busy you are. It suits me just fine that you don't have time for me or I can't hang out with you that much.
2) If I do like you, then I'm hurt that you wouldn't make time/ cancel plans for me. I'm hurt that you're seeing other people and obviously not taking me and our relationship into consideration. And by flaunting it you're making it like it's ok to play around.
I know some guys are like "oh, I'm sure she'll figure it out", but a lot of times we don't. If you tell us that you're busy or you're gonna go meet with a girl, we just assume that's what you're gonna do, not "oh he's going out with this other girl but he's only telling me this to make me jealous". Even if we do figure out it can make us angry. Lots of times we don't want to compete for you, we want you to choose us, without any other influence. Plus, it might turn it into a competition. We no longer want you, we just want to win, to show that we can get you.
Anyways, to the OP, get nice clothes/tidy up is good, but personality IS the key. I know it sounds cheesy, but girls will overlook a lot of things for a good personality. A sense of humour, general sweetness and thoughtfulness will go a lot further than nice clothes. Like they say, girls thinks the boy that they're in love with is cute, boys are in love with the girl that they think is cute. So arrive there early, pick up flowers if you're walking through a field and DO pay for her coffee :p.
 
Well there are a few options

1) Preppy
2) Emo
3) Goth
4) Scene
5) Wal-Mart
6) Athletic clothes only

I don't think he would get good attention being 2 or 3 and I don't think he would fit into groups 2-4. 5 is what he should be avoiding. 6 is just stupid and shows a girl you have no sense of style #1 I think fits the best, and girls like it.

LOL Erik. Number 5.

Anyway, this thread has been too interesting.

Anyway, I don't think she wants to date you. Girls, if they like you, will say yes first time around. You can't change a girls mind really... They either are attracted to you or they are not. When they are "thinking" it's most always a polite "no."

That said, don't focus on one girl as being THE one for you. If she doesn't like you for you, than she is not that girl.

For years - 2nd grade until about freshmen year in high school - I thought I loved this girl who was the classic definition of "hott." She had the perfect body, great at sports, excellent student, good head on her shoulders, etc... But then I sorta realized that if she didn't like me, what good was that providing? None.

I began to look elsewhere, and good things happened. And of course, you're gunna have failed relationships now and then, but you need those to help see the good ones for what they are.

My current lady-friend is someone who came up totally by chance, yet we'd known eachother for years. She's two years younger then I, but we went to the same elementry school and such. Two years ago, did I ever think she and I would work so perfectly together?? Nope. We've been dating 7 months now and are both very very content.

My point is, don't give up if she does say no. Don't decide you won't have an amazing girl who will adore you. There's someone out there, just gotta find 'em.

Take care, and you seem like an awesome kid. :)
 
I'm pretty much in agreement with scamateur and abstract, who have both made some salient points.

abstract is especially correct when it comes to the fit of clothing. There are also different cuts and fits that fit better with various body types, for example spread-collars for lean faces, slender shoes for shorter people, flat front trousers for long legs, etc.
 
Update:

....well....heh. Um...I didn't go. I couldn't get any tickets, and...well, I mostly chickened out. :eek:

I...well, I feel like a jerk right now. I'm such a jackass.
 
well tell her there werent any tickets avaliable. and dont be so hard on yourself. just explain it to her.

Yeah, I just feel bad that I told her I would be there. I've never let someone down like that before, and now I know why. It feels lie crap. Especially, when it's someone you really like.
 
How hard did you try to get tickets? I would have worked my ass off.

Anyway, just apologize to her, and ask her out for a coffee to make it up to her. ;)

Anyway, I don't think she wants to date you. Girls, if they like you, will say yes first time around. You can't change a girls mind really... They either are attracted to you or they are not. When they are "thinking" it's most always a polite "no."

Well, I don't think my girlfriend would have said "yes" to me if I had asked her at first. She said she had no interest in me. It could be because another hot English girl wanted me at the time (hot = body + English accent). :eek: I wasn't interested in my current girlfriend either. Now, the English girl is out, and my current girlfriend is in. Weeeird.

Um.....keep trying. Maybe you'll like girl #2 if you gave it a try.
 
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