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The only part of this that I find ridiculous is the fact that people keep posting videos where they are shaking their computer.

When did this become normal usage?

During normal usage, my 13" rMBP does not move in that manner. I set it on my lap, on the bed in front of me or the table that I'm seated at and then I open it and use it to get work done. My rMBP is not a carnival ride and it doesn't get tossed around, it's a tool and it is used to perform the tasks it was designed to perform.

Sorry but what? It's a laptop, it's portable. It is made to be moved around, carried around wherever you go. You have it in your bag, it shakes, it moves back and forth. That's good for you that you get work done on it, but so do the majority of us, and we depend on it too. So guess what? I don't want something that I use to get work done to be faulty or defective.

Do not attempt to justify that a defect is based on how a user uses their computers. Once you are out of warranty, and something does go wrong, guess who chalks up the cost of the repair bill? You. So I don't believe it is ridiculous to be cautious and worried about something like this.
 
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Sorry but what? It's a laptop, it's portable. It is made to be moved around, carried around wherever you go. You have it in your bag, it shakes, it moves back and forth. That's good for you that you get work done on it, but so do the majority of us, and we depend on it too. So guess what? I don't want something that I use to get work done to be faulty or defective.

Yeah, it's a laptop. I get that. You move it around. You put it in a bag. You travel with it. None of those actions, in what I consider normal use, replicate the repeated shaking back and forth that has been shown in the videos.

I don't run a 5k with my laptop in a backpack. I don't take it with me on the Tilt-a-Whirl. I don't take it horse back riding with me.

It is a computer. Use it for the things it is designed to be used for. If it were a maraca, shaking it would be fine.

Do not attempt to justify that a defect is based on how a user uses their computers. Once you are out of warranty, and something does go wrong, guess who chalks up the cost of the repair bill? You. So I don't believe it is ridiculous to be cautious and worried about something like this.

I'm not justifying any defect. I am pointing out that you and others are nit-picking and finding non-issues to complain about.
 
Which is how it is designed,it makes no difference to the performance, quality or longevity of the computer, I can't see why you would care that it makes a small sound occasionally when you move it.
It's a design flaw. Even the Macbooks do it. My late 2011 Macbook Pro and various Windows laptops don't do it either. While it doesn't hinder performance or general usage, it's quite disappointing that a product that's marketed as "premium" and "quality" does this.

And yes, I have taken it to the Apple store, even got the display replaced and it still does it. The Apple technician even said they all do it to some degree.
 
For God sake people stop panicking - it's force touch trackpad that is causing this rattle. Loose elements which vibrate when you touch it...

BTW:
Do you people use laptop properly? It's not a shaker :)

P.S. Try 'shake' it vertically - no rattle I guess...
 
For God sake people stop panicking - it's force touch trackpad that is causing this rattle. Loose elements which vibrate when you touch it...

BTW:
Do you people use laptop properly? It's not a shaker :)

P.S. Try 'shake' it vertically - no rattle I guess...
No, it's not. It's from the display. You have no idea what you're talking about.
 
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No, it's not. It's from the display. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I have mid 2015 rMBP and it rattles too - and I don't care :). The second one (early 2015) with no force touch doesn't rattle... This was my first guess + sound is the same as in video posted by OP.
 
as a college student who always has their laptop on them, i can tell you this is definitely not normal.
I had the same issue twice apple replaced the dead fan take it to apple asp and show them video explain to Genius Bar if they can't reproduce it get manager
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All 2015 rMBs and rMBPs have force touch.
Maybe he got a bad lemon
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Why do you think it is strange?
why does he shake it
 
I'm curious what makes you think shaking a laptop as shown in these videos is normal use, Steve.

Alright Tim, pick up your iPhone and speed dial Jony to pass on the following message:

The Design Society defines a 'design flaw' as

...any design-related product property that impairs product quality. What does that mean? A basic definition of quality is the degree to which the expected product properties match with the perceived product properties. Since it is what we call the customer of the product who has certain expectations about the product, there is a mismatch if the designer – who defines the product properties – has been unable to satisfy these expectations. In this context, the spectrum of product properties that influence quality is quite large. It reaches from poor ergonomics (the customer perceives the position of the camera shutter as awkward whereas the designer, for technical reasons, could not place it elsewhere) to the reliability of the product...

Also...

As pointed out in the previous section, a design flaw is generated when designers fail to create a level of product quality that satisfies the customers. This failure can be either due to “poor workmanship” or to designers having a different perception of the quality of the product than their customers. More precisely, designers can have a wrong concept about how the customers perceive specific product properties and/or what product properties they expect.

These definitions clearly tally with the complaints here and what a design flaw is. Whether the plastic sliding around inside is a necessary evil or not (as per the camera shutter example) the customers complaining here perceive that it does not match their expectations of quality. And given the price of Apple laptops are broadly the most expensive in the industry, those expectations are high.
 
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Alright Tim, pick up your iPhone and speed dial Jony to pass on the following message:

The Design Society defines a 'design flaw' as

...any design-related product property that impairs product quality. What does that mean? A basic definition of quality is the degree to which the expected product properties match with the perceived product properties. Since it is what we call the customer of the product who has certain expectations about the product, there is a mismatch if the designer – who defines the product properties – has been unable to satisfy these expectations. In this context, the spectrum of product properties that influence quality is quite large. It reaches from poor ergonomics (the customer perceives the position of the camera shutter as awkward whereas the designer, for technical reasons, could not place it elsewhere) to the reliability of the product...

Also...

As pointed out in the previous section, a design flaw is generated when designers fail to create a level of product quality that satisfies the customers. This failure can be either due to “poor workmanship” or to designers having a different perception of the quality of the product than their customers. More precisely, designers can have a wrong concept about how the customers perceive specific product properties and/or what product properties they expect.

These definitions clearly tally with the complaints here and what a design flaw is. Whether the plastic sliding around inside is a necessary evil or not (as per the camera shutter example) the customers complaining here perceive that it does not match their expectations of quality. And given the price of Apple laptops are broadly the most expensive in the industry, those expectations are high.

Again, Steve, where is shaking a laptop considered normal use? Maybe you're correct that the people who designed the laptop and the people who are shaking it have different uses defined. The people who designed it most likely intended it to be used as the tool it is. The people who are shaking it think it's a musical instrument or a carnival ride? I really don't know. It just does not make sense why anyone would shake a laptop or then gauge the quality of the product based on what happens when it is shaken.

There are always going to be a group of people who use a product outside of its normal intended use. Its unfortunate that you fall into this group of people who has lost touch with reality. A group of people who think a laptop that rattles when it is shaken has something to do with a design flaw. Instead, you should be questioning why they're shaking something that is designed to be used as a tool to create content or consume media.
 
It isn't a design flaw it's a design quirk, a design flaw implies that it is a problem that interferes with the use of the device, this however has no negative impact on the user and is therefore not a flaw but a a quirk.
 
Again, Steve, where is shaking a laptop considered normal use? Maybe you're correct that the people who designed the laptop and the people who are shaking it have different uses defined. The people who designed it most likely intended it to be used as the tool it is. The people who are shaking it think it's a musical instrument or a carnival ride? I really don't know. It just does not make sense why anyone would shake a laptop or then gauge the quality of the product based on what happens when it is shaken.

There are always going to be a group of people who use a product outside of its normal intended use. Its unfortunate that you fall into this group of people who has lost touch with reality. A group of people who think a laptop that rattles when it is shaken has something to do with a design flaw. Instead, you should be questioning why they're shaking something that is designed to be used as a tool to create content or consume media.

You will have to forgive me for not taking your comments seriously, your posts over the site clearly define you as an Apple apologist without a balanced view.

Here is a thread on a different subject where you were once again defending Apple for 'a problem that wasn't a problem'. Until Apple admitted it was a problem and issued a replacement program.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/is-staingate-present-in-2015-macbook-pros.1910623/

I said then, 'All the people in this thread denying it was an issue must be feeling pretty stupid right about now'. Let's wait and see if this current display issue is present on new models, perhaps history will repeat itself.
 
And in what situation is flipping your laptop around like that considered normal?

Dude, there should be no sound when turning the laptop upside down, whether or not you think its advisable.
When the Pintos were exploding with light rear bumper collisions in the 70's you were probably the guy saying 'why are you letting your car collide with anything?'
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It isn't a design flaw it's a design quirk, a design flaw implies that it is a problem that interferes with the use of the device, this however has no negative impact on the user and is therefore not a flaw but a a quirk.

Wrong. There shouldnt be a sound. He needs to take it to the genuis bar. Something is loose inside that shouldnt be.

Design quirk?!? Everything inside a macbook pro is fitted to precision, and locked down tight with glue or screws. Thats how its 'designed'. Under no circumstances should there be a rattle.
 
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Dude, there should be no sound when turning the laptop upside down, whether or not you think its advisable.
When the Pintos were exploding with light rear bumper collisions in the 70's you were probably the guy saying 'why are you letting your car collide with anything?'
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Wrong. There shouldnt be a sound. He needs to take it to the genuis bar. Something is loose inside that shouldnt be.

Design quirk?!? Everything inside a macbook pro is fitted to precision, and locked down tight with glue or screws. Thats how its 'designed'. Under no circumstances should there be a rattle.

However you have failed to read the rest of the thread and see that the quirk was explained with a tear down of the screen assembly by ifixit, and taking it to Apple will get you nowhere as they are all pretty much the same.
 
You will have to forgive me for not taking your comments seriously, your posts over the site clearly define you as an Apple apologist without a balanced view.

I must defend T5BRICK and others that use their computer normally. There will always be people who are anal on everything and will not stop.

I read a lot on this forum from people freaking out on virtually everything. Just enjoy your life -- it is only computer (tool). If not, don't be masochist -- just sold it and buy Dell.

For price of one macbook, You can get at least 2-3 Dells with much better specs.
 
You will have to forgive me for not taking your comments seriously, your posts over the site clearly define you as an Apple apologist without a balanced view.

It's ok, I'm not really taking anything you say seriously either. So far, it appears you just want to nit-pick a non-issue.

Here is a thread on a different subject where you were once again defending Apple for 'a problem that wasn't a problem'. Until Apple admitted it was a problem and issued a replacement program.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/is-staingate-present-in-2015-macbook-pros.1910623/

I said then, 'All the people in this thread denying it was an issue must be feeling pretty stupid right about now'. Let's wait and see if this current display issue is present on new models, perhaps history will repeat itself.

I still stand by what I said there. It appears to be physical damage. I'm glad Apple decided to do something about it for the whiners, but from the pictures and physical examples I've seen, it appears to be abuse.
 
It's ok, I'm not really taking anything you say seriously either. So far, it appears you just want to nit-pick a non-issue.

I still stand by what I said there. It appears to be physical damage. I'm glad Apple decided to do something about it for the whiners, but from the pictures and physical examples I've seen, it appears to be abuse.

That's okay. I'll leave it up to readers whether to consider if somebody, like yourself, that still denies a problem with a product even after Apple launched a replacement program has a reasonable grasp on balanced assessment, or is so far sucked into the Apple reality distortion field their opinion no longer holds any value.
 
That's okay. I'll leave it up to readers whether to consider if somebody, like yourself, that still denies a problem with a product even after Apple launched a replacement program has a reasonable grasp on balanced assessment, or is so far sucked into the Apple reality distortion field their opinion no longer holds any value.

Where can I find out about the replacement program for this issue?
 
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