One month with the 6 Plus and I'm going back to the 5S...

[Bobby Corwen]

Actually, my comments are not nonsense. It is your reading comprehension skills that seem to be sub par. I stated that in MY opinion the 5s was a smoother phone than the 6 plus. Your experience may be different. That is why I DON'T explain why your 6 plus has zero lag. Your experience is not the experience of everyone. Many have experienced the same lag that I do, on all variations of ios 8, both jailbroken or not.

There are numerous threads on numerous technology forums that outline issues with all of the various ios 8 operating systems. So I would say that ios 8.3 did NOT fix all problems for all people.

Nope not true.

There are many millions of people with no problems but are not vocal about it.

I have never ran into someone with an iPhone 6 that wasn't perfect and I only noticed comments about lag in the same paragraphs as bias towards being anti 6+

The vast majority of millions have no lag. They are head over heels in love with their 6 plus and don't really enter threads like these to say "mine works" for the umpteenth time like the people who hate on the 6+ spend their energy doing in the opposite and trying to wrongfully bash it for some misguided weird reasons.

Your idea of the norm needs to be recalibrated. Millions of iPhone users are happy. maybe like a dozen ppl i noticed have had complaints in the early days about resolution lag. Probably people who didnt have a fresh install on 8.0 before they ironed out the small bugs.

I for one had smoothness from day one and so did the vast majority.

You have the wrong idea about all this.

5S was top of the line 1.5 years ago? lol

1.5 years ago it was already 3 years behind the times.

 

[1984world]

Nope not true.

There are many millions of people with no problems but are not vocal about it.

I have never ran into someone with an iPhone 6 that wasn't perfect and I only noticed comments about lag in the same paragraphs as bias towards being anti 6+

The vast majority of millions have no lag. They are head over heels in love with their 6 plus and don't really enter threads like these to say "mine works" for the umpteenth time like the people who hate on the 6+ spend their energy doing in the opposite and trying to wrongfully bash it for some misguided weird reasons.

Your idea of the norm needs to be recalibrated. Millions of iPhone users are happy. maybe like a dozen ppl i noticed have had complaints in the early days about resolution lag. Probably people who didnt have a fresh install on 8.0 before they ironed out the small bugs.

I for one had smoothness from day one and so did the vast majority.

You have the wrong idea about all this.

5S was top of the line 1.5 years ago? lol

1.5 years ago it was already 3 years behind the times.

I'm not sure how you can say that MY experience is not true? Of course it is true, it is MY experience. And search this forum (and others) and you will locate people with issues with lag on the iphone 6plus. It's not a conspiracy and it is not a secret. It is simply a fact. You just need to be able to read and comprehend.

The fact that you haven't ran into anyone with an issue is simply YOUR experience. I have in fact ran into people with issues with the 6plus. It doesn't make my (or your) experience not true.

If you go back and reread my comments, you will see that I don't bash the 6plus, am not biased against it, and not once say that my experience is the norm in any way. In fact, I very much like my 6plus. And you misuse the word "recalibrate" in this instance (do you know the definition?).

And the 5s was indeed top of the line at the time. Look at the sales figures, look at the performance standards (as opposed to other smart phones that were released at that time). You will see that it performed at the "top of the line" in all tests. And was one of, if not the best single seller of phones at the time. I would say that makes it "top of the line." It may not have been YOUR ideal phone (as evidenced by your comments of voicing your want for a larger screen-which btw others including myself wanted as well), but it still was a market leader.

I can see that your age and inexperience in life has left you with the typical "I know better than all mentality" (based on the Instagram in your signature that is presumably yours - do you even lift bro?). You are not open to facts and figures that prove a point, or open to the fact that other people will have experiences that differ from your own (or knowledge that is different than yours).

 

[Bobby Corwen]

I'm not sure how you can say that MY experience is not true? Of course it is true, it is MY experience. And search this forum (and others) and you will locate people with issues with lag on the iphone 6plus. It's not a conspiracy and it is not a secret. It is simply a fact. You just need to be able to read and comprehend.

The fact that you haven't ran into anyone with an issue is simply YOUR experience. I have in fact ran into people with issues with the 6plus. It doesn't make my (or your) experience not true.

If you go back and reread my comments, you will see that I don't bash the 6plus, am not biased against it, and not once say that my experience is the norm in any way. In fact, I very much like my 6plus. And you misuse the word "recalibrate" in this instance (do you know the definition?).

And the 5s was indeed top of the line at the time. Look at the sales figures, look at the performance standards (as opposed to other smart phones that were released at that time). You will see that it performed at the "top of the line" in all tests. And was one of, if not the best single seller of phones at the time. I would say that makes it "top of the line." It may not have been YOUR ideal phone (as evidenced by your comments of voicing your want for a larger screen-which btw others including myself wanted as well), but it still was a market leader.

I can see that your age and inexperience in life has left you with the typical "I know better than all mentality" (based on the Instagram in your signature that is presumably yours - do you even lift bro?). You are not open to facts and figures that prove a point, or open to the fact that other people will have experiences that differ from your own (or knowledge that is different than yours).

Please link the threads where people are saying it lags post 8.3.

 

[1984world]

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6983375

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7021788

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7004079

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6989373

and also the iphone 6 issues with 8.3:

http://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/335cvw/iphone_6_ios_83_messages_app_keyboard_lag/

and more issues on all phones with 8.3:

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...ery-life-issues-keyboard-freezes-and-more.htm

The above took a two minute google search to locate. Heres a link for the best selling mobile phones by year. Note that 2013 and 2014 (first quarter) are when the 5s was released. These numbers in comparison to manufacturers that release numerous phones:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_mobile_phones#2014

Link to the 5s being top selling smartphone:

http://www.cnet.com/news/iphone-5s-is-the-bestselling-smartphone-worldwide/

And yet another link:

http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/the-10-top-selling-smartphones-in-the-world-2014-334251/

If you search online, you will also find that there were/are issues related to the flash storage on the 6plus, which Apple planned/plans to rectify.

This is all just a tiny sample of what can be found on the internet. It is like the issues with the iphone 4 and its antenna (which I never had an issue with) that some people had. Some had the issue, some didn't. Just because I never had that issues, it doesn't mean others didn't.

 

[I7guy]

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6983375

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7021788

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7004079

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6989373

and also the iphone 6 issues with 8.3:

http://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/335cvw/iphone_6_ios_83_messages_app_keyboard_lag/

and more issues on all phones with 8.3:

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...ery-life-issues-keyboard-freezes-and-more.htm

The above took a two minute google search to locate. Heres a link for the best selling mobile phones by year. Note that 2013 and 2014 (first quarter) are when the 5s was released. These numbers in comparison to manufacturers that release numerous phones:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_mobile_phones#2014

Link to the 5s being top selling smartphone:

http://www.cnet.com/news/iphone-5s-is-the-bestselling-smartphone-worldwide/

And yet another link:

http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/the-10-top-selling-smartphones-in-the-world-2014-334251/

If you search online, you will also find that there were/are issues related to the flash storage on the 6plus, which Apple planned/plans to rectify.

This is all just a tiny sample of what can be found on the internet. It is like the issues with the iphone 4 and its antenna (which I never had an issue with) that some people had. Some had the issue, some didn't. Just because I never had that issues, it doesn't mean others didn't.

Links on the internet don't really translate into a quantifiable number of people who have issues. With 30 million iPhone 6 out there and 100s of millions of idevices it's invariable there will be some who experience issues even though some may be app related and not iOS or hardware.

And there might even be a large majority of those who have little or no issues who don't post about it.

That link about the 5s appears stale as the same page has a link to iPhone 6 rumors. Yes it was a big seller before the i6. But in 2014 the iPhone 6 broke sales records.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6983375

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7021788

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7004079

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6989373

and also the iphone 6 issues with 8.3:

http://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/335cvw/iphone_6_ios_83_messages_app_keyboard_lag/

and more issues on all phones with 8.3:

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...ery-life-issues-keyboard-freezes-and-more.htm

The above took a two minute google search to locate. Heres a link for the best selling mobile phones by year. Note that 2013 and 2014 (first quarter) are when the 5s was released. These numbers in comparison to manufacturers that release numerous phones:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_mobile_phones#2014

Link to the 5s being top selling smartphone:

http://www.cnet.com/news/iphone-5s-is-the-bestselling-smartphone-worldwide/

And yet another link:

http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/the-10-top-selling-smartphones-in-the-world-2014-334251/

If you search online, you will also find that there were/are issues related to the flash storage on the 6plus, which Apple planned/plans to rectify.

This is all just a tiny sample of what can be found on the internet. It is like the issues with the iphone 4 and its antenna (which I never had an issue with) that some people had. Some had the issue, some didn't. Just because I never had that issues, it doesn't mean others didn't.

I rest my case lol

 

[1984world]

Links on the internet don't really translate into a quantifiable number of people who have issues. With 30 million iPhone 6 out there and 100s of millions of idevices it's invariable there will be some who experience issues even though some may be app related and not iOS or hardware.

And there might even be a large majority of those who have little or no issues who don't post about it.

That link about the 5s appears stale as the same page has a link to iPhone 6 rumors. Yes it was a big seller before the i6. But in 2014 the iPhone 6 broke sales records.

Go back and slowly reread my comments and the comments/argument from the above commenter. He asked for links and I provided them.

I stated MY experience, and the fact that others,NOT the majority, but others have experienced the same thing. The other poster stated that it wasn't true. I stated that it was. And it obviously is, as other people in this thread and other threads have stated as much.

He stated that since 8.3 the problems are all gone. I stated that they weren't (for everyone) and he asked for links. I provided links (if a link is stale, I apologize, as I stated in a previous post, the links were located with a few minute google search).

I stated that the 5s was a top of the line phone 1.5 years ago. Not now, not compared to the 6 (sales wise). But it was in fact a top of the line phone (then, and arguably better than many of the phones out there now), and provided links as well.

The fact remains that MY 5s (and SOME others) is smoother and has less lag than my 6plus. It has faster boot time. Less lag. Which depending on your definition of "better" can be seen as a better phone. Just because a screen is bigger, doesn't make the phone better (lots of big screen android phones that are sub par compared to the iphone).

I've had dozens of cellular phones since the early 90s, and feel confident that my experiences with the differences in ability between the 5s and 6plus are accurate (once again, for me) and not a placebo type of effect.

So though the other poster feels the need to call other peoples experiences ridiculous and such, the fact remains (though he rests his little case) that some people experience lag on the 6plus iphone (which was the original issue thread creator posted about).

 

[quickcalibre]

I'm still on the iphone 5s, though the battery life and screen size is tempting, I think I'm waiting until they trim down the top and bottom bars though and maybe the bezel. So probably won't consider upgrading til the iphone 7.

 

[I7guy]

Go back and slowly reread my comments and the comments/argument from the above commenter. He asked for links and I provided them.

I stated MY experience, and the fact that others,NOT the majority, but others have experienced the same thing. The other poster stated that it wasn't true. I stated that it was. And it obviously is, as other people in this thread and other threads have stated as much.

He stated that since 8.3 the problems are all gone. I stated that they weren't (for everyone) and he asked for links. I provided links (if a link is stale, I apologize, as I stated in a previous post, the links were located with a few minute google search).

I stated that the 5s was a top of the line phone 1.5 years ago. Not now, not compared to the 6 (sales wise). But it was in fact a top of the line phone (then, and arguably better than many of the phones out there now), and provided links as well.

The fact remains that MY 5s (and SOME others) is smoother and has less lag than my 6plus. It has faster boot time. Less lag. Which depending on your definition of "better" can be seen as a better phone. Just because a screen is bigger, doesn't make the phone better (lots of big screen android phones that are sub par compared to the iphone).

I've had dozens of cellular phones since the early 90s, and feel confident that my experiences with the differences in ability between the 5s and 6plus are accurate (once again, for me) and not a placebo type of effect.

So though the other poster feels the need to call other peoples experiences ridiculous and such, the fact remains (though he rests his little case) that some people experience lag on the 6plus iphone (which was the original issue thread creator posted about).

I don't have to slowly reread anything. You can find any opinion on the Internet to back up any claim. That someone posts an issue with an idevice is not that unusual and one can't make a broad, sweeping claim based on a few posts was my point. Now if you are trying to counter an broad assertion that 8.3 has rendered every idevice a perfect idevice, sure one post showing a gripe is enough to bust that.

But the point for many is that 8.3 has resolved a bunch of issues and people have generally posted favorable impressions of it.

 

[1984world]

I don't have to slowly reread anything. You can find any opinion on the Internet to back up any claim. That someone posts an issue with an idevice is not that unusual and one can't make a broad, sweeping claim based on a few posts was my point. Now if you are trying to counter an broad assertion that 8.3 has rendered every idevice a perfect idevice, sure one post showing a gripe is enough to bust that.

But the point for many is that 8.3 has resolved a bunch of issues and people have generally posted favorable impressions of it.

It is true that 8.3 resolved issues for many (as every incremental update does with ios) but it also doesn't solve ALL issues for everyone. And it also creates issues for others.

Once again, I posted links at the request of another poster, not for any need to prove 8.3 is not an effective update (for most). The links to other posters with issues, was only showing that people with 8.3 do in fact still have lag issues on the iphone 6 plus. They may (and obviously aren't) not be in the majority, but they certainly do in exist. That was my only point. I'm sure 8.3 is a great update for most (I can't personally attest to it as none of our idevices in our home have 8.3 as of yet).

 

[Bobby Corwen]

It is true that 8.3 resolved issues for many (as every incremental update does with ios) but it also doesn't solve ALL issues for everyone. And it also creates issues for others.

Once again, I posted links at the request of another poster, not for any need to prove 8.3 is not an effective update (for most). The links to other posters with issues, was only showing that people with 8.3 do in fact still have lag issues on the iphone 6 plus. They may (and obviously aren't) not be in the majority, but they certainly do in exist. That was my only point. I'm sure 8.3 is a great update for most (I can't personally attest to it as none of our idevices in our home have 8.3 as of yet).

So why do you keep aggressively pushing your agenda when you don't even know what you're talking about. lol.

I have it, in my hands, testing it. Its flawless. If it wasn't super smooth I would be honest about it.

You on the other hand have no idea what you're talking about. You just admitted you don't have a 6+ with 8.3 on it so why are you commenting on something you don't know? Posting some silly links and generally just being hard headed and aggressive about something so nonsensical.

 

[1984world]

So why do you keep aggressively pushing your agenda when you don't even know what you're talking about. lol.

I have it, in my hands, testing it. Its flawless. If it wasn't super smooth I would be honest about it.

You on the other hand have no idea what you're talking about. You just admitted you don't have a 6+ with 8.3 on it so why are you commenting on something you don't know? Posting some silly links and generally just being hard headed and aggressive about something so nonsensical.

It is obvious that you don't read thoroughly, and don't understand the content (such as "silly" links, which you asked for and I supplied), and as such, it is fruitless in attempting to educate you. You called out my experience (along with others). I responded with facts and truths. I've explicitly outlined what my point was, but logic seems to be lost on you.

Perhaps when you grow up and enter the world of adults you will understand.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

It is obvious that you don't read thoroughly, and don't understand the content (such as "silly" links, which you asked for and I supplied), and as such, it is fruitless in attempting to educate you. You called out my experience (along with others). I responded with facts and truths. I've explicitly outlined what my point was, but logic seems to be lost on you.

Perhaps when you grow up and enter the world of adults you will understand.

So youre telling me no threads exist on the internet where random people complained about having problems with the 5S?

lol!

 

[1984world]

So youre telling me no threads exist on the internet where random people complained about having problems with the 5S?

lol!

No, that is not what I am telling you. I'm simply saying that some people do in fact have issues with the 6 plus. Obviously some people had issues with the 5s, no device is perfect. Even you have had issues with the 6 plus:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1858253/

I don't normally take notice of who the other posters are on this site unless they are particularly ignorant/childish, but since you've given me a good laugh, I figured I'd take a look at your profile. You seem WAY too invested in the 6plus. This was a funny thread you started about your love of it:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1785049/

The second comment in the thread with 43 upvotes made me smile.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

No, that is not what I am telling you. I'm simply saying that some people do in fact have issues with the 6 plus. Obviously some people had issues with the 5s, no device is perfect. Even you have had issues with the 6 plus:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1858253/

I don't normally take notice of who the other posters are on this site unless they are particularly ignorant/childish, but since you've given me a good laugh, I figured I'd take a look at your profile. You seem WAY too invested in the 6plus. This was a funny thread you started about your love of it:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1785049/

The second comment in the thread with 43 upvotes made me smile.

Ok so you said it yourself no device is perfect.

It's the same case with both phones. There is no diffence. The majority are happy but a small percentage have some issues for one reason or another. Most of those people with "issues" don't really know what's going on. It doesn't accurately reflect on the average default behavior most people get and it doesn't imply that most phones aren't perfect.

Beyond that it's impossible for you to gauge the true averages of "if it's worse"

It's all just anecdotal.

If what you were saying is really true, there would be a huge huge latencygate. Much more dramatic.

But it's not. Most people have a flawless phone. The only people complaining are isolated incidents and various confusions.

The default experience for the vast majority is fine.

No where near as bad as you make it seem.

The threads lol.

The first one is not a bug but a criticism of design by Apple software designers.

The second one was a humorous response to the overwhelming attacks on the 6 during bendgate

 

[1984world]

Ok so you said it yourself no device is perfect.

It's the same case with both phones. There is no diffence. The majority are happy but a small percentage have some issues for one reason or another. Most of those people with "issues" don't really know what's going on. It doesn't accurately reflect on the average default behavior most people get and it doesn't imply that most phones aren't perfect.

Beyond that it's impossible for you to gauge the true averages of "if it's worse"

It's all just anecdotal.

If what you were saying is really true, there would be a huge huge latencygate. Much more dramatic.

But it's not. Most people have a flawless phone. The only people complaining are isolated incidents and various confusions.

The default experience for the vast majority is fine.

No where near as bad as you make it seem.

The threads lol.

The first one is not a bug but a criticism of design by Apple software designers.

The second one was a humorous response to the overwhelming attacks on the 6 during bendgate

Maybe you don't even know what you say. This was my first comment on this thread:

I've had all the iphones (with the exception of the of the 5) since the 3gs and I'll agree, the 6plus has the most lag as of yet. My 5s is WAY more responsive than my 6plus, and is definitely faster in all respects. Both jailbroken, both on 8.1. And they were both the same on 8.0 and not jailbroken as well. Both set up as new, no back up, and both have the EXACT tweaks, apps, media on them. So I would say from MY experience, though I love the 6plus for the size, the 5s is a better phone as a whole. Even boot time is way faster.

This is MY experience. So yes, it IS as bad as it seems-for me. Which was all I was speaking about, yet you can't seem to comprehend that I have a different experience with my phones than you do with yours (and numerous other people as well). It isn't rampant. But it's not a one off isolation issue either.

 

[Kavier]

I have to say I disagree. I love my 6 plus and have had no issues with it.

 

[Ladybug]

Sounds like a silly argument to me. Ever heard that expression "one mans junk is another mans treasure"? If you like the 5s that's great, if you like the 6 + that's great too. Enjoy your devices and don't worry about what Internet peeps have to say about it. I guess kissing and making up is outta the question now? Lol

 

[whatos]

I've got used to how my 6+ operates and although it performs MUCH better on 8.3 than it ever did before, when I pick up my father's iPhone 5 (my old phone) the UI is *so* much smoother and the touchscreen *so* much more responsive.

A friend's 4.7" iPhone 6 is still not as smooth (I'm not talking speed here) as the iPhone 5 but it is much smoother than my 6+. Lots of guys have mentioned how the 6+ lags and freezes up now and again. I agree with the OP, the 6+ is an unfinished product. The hardware is underspecced.

I'm not going to call it unfinished, but having bought each new iPhone as they were released I will say my 6 Plus has been a very poor phone filled with bugs, insufficient memory for serious business use, and although 8.3 has helped I'll be thrilled to get rid of it.

 

[sunking101]

I'm not going to call it unfinished, but having bought each new iPhone as they were released I will say my 6 Plus has been a very poor phone filled with bugs, insufficient memory for serious business use, and although 8.3 has helped I'll be thrilled to get rid of it.

Shocking really for an 8-month old flagship phone, and I expect that you have felt this way for many of those eight months (as I have).

 

[KillaMac]

I did when I got it. Should have mentioned that. Set it up as new with iOS 8.3. Every iPhone 6 plus I have used exhibits the same type of behavior. Its just not mine. The animations are not always choppy, but noticeable enough.

My 6 plus lags badly. Went to apple and they did a dfu reset and its still happening. About to give up on this phone.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

Shocking really for an 8-month old flagship phone, and I expect that you have felt this way for many of those eight months (as I have).

Worked fine for me. Best 8 months Ive ever experience with a phone in my life.

Never been more happy and excited on a daily basis with a tech device since I got the 3G back in the day.

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My 6 plus lags badly. Went to apple and they did a dfu reset and its still happening. About to give up on this phone.

Did you install a 3rd party keyboard or reload from backup?

If not then just exchange it and get one that works?

Did you drop it or something?

 

[whatos]

Shocking really for an 8-month old flagship phone, and I expect that you have felt this way for many of those eight months (as I have).

Yes quite the shock, causing frequent daily frustrating experiences as it hangs, crashes and acts like a very poorly engineered product from a novice company. Only Apple with its highly skilled spin department could sell something so poor to so many. Far from what Apple is capable of, this is like flipping off their customers. A testimony to Apple excuse makers determination to stand behind the company no matter what.

 

[kargurin]

I have to say I disagree. I love my 6 plus and have had no issues with it.

Yup. iPhone people don't much experience dealing with large format phones. I just came over from the Android world. The 5 has one third as many pixels to push than the Plus combined with lighting up that much surface it's going to mean you have battery and processor issues to juggle. I remember the last phone I owned as small as the 5....it was the Droid X at 4.3 inches. It was released in 2010! So you have 2010 era screen operated with a much more modern processor. Unlikely that will happen again anytime soon.

 

[sunking101]

Yes quite the shock, causing frequent daily frustrating experiences as it hangs, crashes and acts like a very poorly engineered product from a novice company. Only Apple with its highly skilled spin department could sell something so poor to so many. Far from what Apple is capable of, this is like flipping off their customers. A testimony to Apple excuse makers determination to stand behind the company no matter what.

I laughed reading that. ☺️
Very true though.