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If you have kids...once you get it they won’t let you cancel. You might as well try canceling Christmas. I actually ended up giving them more money because I upgraded to the bundle to make it worth while. There I was blissfully rotating services and Disney+ came along and ruined everything 😐
 
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By elsewhere you mean you can pirate it? Isn't that true of anything worth watching?

Or are there other legal ways of getting it?

Anyways... I'm a little surprised Disney Plus is doing so well. Yeah, they have a lot of old content available, but, personally, I generally watch stuff once. It'd have to be top tier to watch it again, and in that case, I'd just buy the DVD - no reason to pay $7/month when Disney averages on one movie per year that's worth rewatching.

So I sign up to services for their new content. Disney has the Mandalorian and... that's it? One show? I'm supposed to pay a monthly fee for a single show?

Apple has a lot more shows available, and while only one is of interest to me (For All Mankind), it'd be less surprising to me if Apple did better. I think Apple doesn't do better mostly because they all look like daytime TV. Very little of it looks like it belongs in primetime slots.
Well you’re the only one of the planet surprised that Disney+ is doing so well. They took one of the oldest most loved brands and added two mega franchises (Marvel and Star Wars). Their success is the least surprising thing of the last few years
 
What this article completely misses is that a HUGE number of those got a free year from Verizon. There's big interest to see how many stay with the service once that free year ends.

In a recent survey, 18% said they were cancelling when it expires, and 37% are "not sure" they'll keep it.

When the end of November comes, we'll see how many actually keep it.
 
Personally, I find Apple TV+ to be the better service. The only thing I watch on Disney+ is the Mandalorian. On AppleTV+, Tedd Lasso, Mythic Quest, and The Morning Show, are all excellent shows. Yeah, Disney+ is great for content I've seen a dozen times already, but the Mandalorian is the only original content I've found interesting.
 
Makes sense it is taking off, we have been working though the movies and back catalog of tv shows. About 50 unique shows and a dozen movie. Non of the originals are appealing.
 
Personally I love Disney+
For the money it’s a steal, 4K HDR content.

Netflix on the other hand seems like a waste of money to me but I understand why people like it.
 
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If you have kids...once you get it they won’t let you cancel. You might as well try canceling Christmas. I actually ended up giving them more money because I upgraded to the bundle to make it worth while. There I was blissfully rotating services and Disney+ came along and ruined everything 😐
True, I'll be paying for Disney+ for the next 5 years for sure. My 3 year old loves Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and probably my 1 year old will too in a couple of years. Hot dog.
 
"Copyright infringement" would be taking copyrighted material (say, music) and using it in something like a video, or another music project, or playing it during a broadcast, etc. However, taking a copy of something and consuming said content is stealing.

You ripping a DVD and putting it on a personal storage location for personal consumption is fine though. Just don't share it with others.
Hence why they charge you for stealing if you share a dvd

wait...
 
Re-upped for the annual. I love Disney's content... My favorite franchises are all there, no kids required (mine are all teen and up but still love the content).

And given that I've bought a lot of their content repeatedly over the years, I find it more cost effective (and convenient) to just lease it.

Too bad Warner Bros. didn't do the same with their IPs... I would have loved all the DC, Potter-verse, Matrix, and Rings-verse content in one service.
A lot of the warner bros. stuff is on HBO max. Its pretty much what your talking about. They have harry potter and lord of the rings.
 
What this article completely misses is that a HUGE number of those got a free year from Verizon. There's big interest to see how many stay with the service once that free year ends.

In a recent survey, 18% said they were cancelling when it expires, and 37% are "not sure" they'll keep it.

When the end of November comes, we'll see how many actually keep it.
YES!!! I am one of those Verizon customers who received a free full year subscription at no cost. I was due to be charged for the first time on November 12, and I cancelled on Nov.10.

There was absolutely nothing NEW on Disney that I wanted to watch (other than the Mandalorian -- of which I watched the first 2 episodes...and I found it boring). Didn't grab me at all.
But then I haven't watched any of the last 5 Star Wars movies (however many were released in the last decade).

I love the Marvel movies..and I've already seen all of them. Definitely not worth it to me to keep this subscription. As someone else mentioned, I really only watch most movies one time (there are some exceptions). And...since I ordered a new iphone (Pro Max) and changed my plan, Verizon has offered me another free six months of Disney+! I don't think I'll bother.

I will subscribe to AppleTV+ — but first I'll take my free year with the iPhone purchase.
 
Its funny. Got a "free" subscription to Disney+ when I switched to Verizon. The introductory period was for 1 year which just happened to end right after their reporting window closed. So while I did cancel, they are still reporting my "free" subscription. Can't wait to see next quarter.
 
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Its funny. Got a "free" subscription to Disney+ when I switched to Verizon. The introductory period was for 1 year which just happened to end right after their reporting window closed. So while I did cancel, they are still reporting my "free" subscription. Can't wait to see next quarter.
It will be more than 73M. Book it.

The Verizon myth was dispelled on an earnings call earlier this year. It’s not nearly the factor people here think. I think it was 20% or less on 26M, so ~5M subscribers. I can get the quote for reference, but I’m too lazy.

The Verizon angle will be converted at some percentage, and the organic growth Is huge. It’s grown 200% since March.
 
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...They need to find a lot more new content to keep those numbers though.
I disagree. Disney+ has an insane amount of tv/movies for kids. A kid (unlike an adult over 20) will watch the same movie 30 times in a year (both because the kid has the time as well as the brain capacity). In the past I had no problem plunking down $25 for a Disney dvd/bluray because I knew it would be watched over and over and over and over.

We haven't used Disney+ a LOT since we subscribed 2 months ago (in general we do not turn the tv on as a family more than 6 hours a WEEK), but I am very impressed with what it has to offer for our 3 kids who are under 11 years old. I really don't follow the tv shows, but Disney+ seems to offer 100% of the Disney tv shows that are on The Disney Channel on cable. But I could be wrong.

My bet is Disney will yet again buy some company/catalog to add another 50 movies to their offering...and if I have to move from $70/year to $90/year to get those extra 50+ movies, so be it. :) As our kids get old enough to watch the huge array of Marvel and Star Wars and other series, Disney+ is an easy sell to us. $70/year is a bargain for a household of 3 kids.
 
... and contributing to job losses in the industry....
Without commenting on the ethics of piracy, I find it necessary to point out that this is a fantasy promulgated by the MPAA and other industry groups to justify their desire for large government expenditures and enforcement actions. There are no job losses due to digital piracy.
 
It will be more than 73M. Book it.

The Verizon myth was dispelled on an earnings call earlier this year. It’s not nearly the factor people here think. I think it was 20% or less on 26M, so ~5M subscribers. I can get the quote for reference, but I’m too lazy.

The Verizon angle will be converted at some percentage, and the organic growth Is huge. It’s grown 200% since March.


Yeah. But 20% is 20%.

And unfortunately for Disney, they have refused to release their/Fox entire catalog. So while they may keep adding original content slowly, in the next 1-2 quarters, people will have caught up on their entire catalog.
 
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6.99x 73.7 million=$49,419,300 per month. They have no reason not to be the best original content provider.
Some really bad maths here...
6.99 x 73.7 million = $515,163,000 - over 500 million dollars a month!!

Not only did you miss by a factor of x10, you also used 70.7 rather than 73.7.

Grade F - must do better.
 
Some really bad maths here...
6.99 x 73.7 million = $515,163,000 - over 500 million dollars a month!!

Not only did you miss by a factor of x10, you also used 70.7 rather than 73.7.

Grade F - must do better.
You are out of your element, Donny.
 

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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: - is giving your kit the digital equivalent of AIDS really worth it? Not to mention you're stealing (in a public forum no less), and contributing to job losses in the industry.

Even the "clean" downloads can have hidden payloads that you probably don't want to know about, but good luck proving that to law enforcement if they come knocking. Digital steganography enables torrent sites to be a highly effective way of distributing illegal content (disguised a film / tv series) outside of the "dark web".

It's not worth it at all.

I am very much against piracy myself, but what you're describing here, is a bit "science-fiction". "Digital equivalent of AIDS" while very poetic, is also not exactly accurate. Sure, one can end up downloading a malicious file, but that is valid for any file on the internet. Digital stenography while admittedly a creative way to protect intellectual property in multimedia, it can be used as evidence only if authorities get the right to access the actual files for decoding the hidden watermark, otherwise it falls under the spyware category, which is illegal. One cannot use evidence in court obtained through illegal channels.

In reality 99.9999999% of the time what happens is simply folks ripping stuff off streaming services and physical media and sharing it without meaning any harm. Doesn't make it right/legal of course, but I think it's worth highlighting the non-malicious intent.

When it comes to job losses, I have yet to see actual evidence of that. Again, I am not siding with piracy, but if your theory would be correct, the salaries in the industry would have gone down over the years, not up. You also have to remember that media sales to the general public generate very little revenue. It's the larger deals that make the money.

I think the real dent in the industry and piracy is being done by streaming services. While on the one hand streaming has helped combatting piracy and pushed people into new and legal habits of consuming content, it does contribute to potential job losses on the media sales to end users front. If people just watch stuff on Netflix, they have no reason to buy media any more, hence sites selling these go under, shops go under and some people do actually loose jobs because of it.

All in all, it's a very complex topic, I think, but when it comes to piracy specifically, the best solution is always to remove the source of the problem and encourage new good habits to replace the old bad habits, and it's working.
 
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It got 8-10 million already paying subscribers from India by collaborating with India's most popular streaming service Hotstar.

6.99x 73.7 million=$49,419,300 per month. They have no reason not to be the best original content provider.

Most paying subscribers of Disney+ Hotstar in India pay $5.3 per year
 
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