OnePlus Mocks Removal of Headphone Jack in iPhone 7 While Copying its Design for New OnePlus 5

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All I want is headphones that have more than 2 channels, and be able to do something like a pseudo-surround sound system.

For that the 3.5mm jack is obsolete.

It's not true. With headphones you can have perfect surround with just two physical channels. It's because our bodies have only two channels (left and right). If you have speaker system in the room, you need more channels so more speakers can work. But with headphones you have two and only two speakers. To see that I'm right you can check it out right now here (close your eyes when listening ):

 

[Getoffmeluckycharms]

Who??? Am I the only one who's never even heard of Oneplus. Is that a phone or a company? Actually that's a rhetorical question - I don't care.

Oneplus has been around around for a while. Even being rhetorical they make some pretty good phones when it comes down to it.

 

[Klyster]

I wasn't very clear in my original post. I'm not saying I couldn't make heads or tails of how to operate the basic functions of the phone - although making sense of it was a bit of a stretch at times because of the way Android works.

My point was that, in my opinion, Android is poorly thought out and poorly designed. Again, in my opinion, iOS 10 runs circles around Android in every way when it comes to coherent, sensical design and straightforward operation.

Before you or someone else decides to argue and say I'm wrong or overstating something, please remember I'm just sharing my opinion. Yours may be different and that is fine -- they're just opinions, after all.

In the end, I wish you would not have made a judgment about my technical ability. It is useless to argue about these things online in the first place, but it was annoying to log in and see that a fellow human somewhere out there tried to knock me down a few pegs by making a snap judgement about me based on a quick post I wrote. This world is full of enough negativity - it is no fun to log on to a forum I use for fun to find a message like that

I wouldn't have commented if what you said was true. It's not about knocking you down a peg, it's about calling out BS.

So how does IOS 10 run circles around Android N again?

 

[JMacHack]

It's not true. With headphones you can have perfect surround with just two physical channels. It's because our bodies have only two channels (left and right). If you have speaker system in the room, you need more channels so more speakers can work. But with headphones you have two and only two speakers. To see that I'm right you can check it out right now here (close your eyes when listening ):

I retract my statement then. My apologies.

 

[trellus]

I wouldn't have commented if what you said was true. It's not about knocking you down a peg, it's about calling out BS.

So how does IOS 10 run circles around Android N again?

It's a matter of personal preference. Obviously, since more people use Android than iOS, and the majority of those users worldwide are using cheaper phones than iPhones, and probably the majority of them aren't super geeky tech folk, it's easy enough to use.

However, just speaking personally (and I am a software developer), I find the Android experience less cohesive and more confusing -- part of this is due to there not being "a" Android experience, but many -- and so I can only speak about my experience with specific phones (I had a Samsung Galaxy S3 for several months during a brief period when I didn't have an iPhone, for instance), and I have a Motorola E 2nd gen now that I use occasionally.

 

[niun]

Oh please, if Apple hadn't released the 7+, this phone wouldn't have looked any different. They didn't get any design cues from anybody. Anywhere.

Seriously though, I'm sure the majority of their sales from are peddling their phones onto unsuspecting grandparents who can't tell the difference between that and the iPhone. Dream crushers.

Errrr no.

 

[Klyster]

It's a matter of personal preference. Obviously, since more people use Android than iOS, and the majority of those users worldwide are using cheaper phones than iPhones, and probably the majority of them aren't super geeky tech folk, it's easy enough to use.

However, just speaking personally (and I am a software developer), I find the Android experience less cohesive and more confusing -- part of this is due to there not being "a" Android experience, but many -- and so I can only speak about my experience with specific phones (I had a Samsung Galaxy S3 for several months during a brief period when I didn't have an iPhone, for instance), and I have a Motorola E 2nd gen now that I use occasionally.

I'm no expert at anything but I have used both platforms and then some.
I wouldn't call android hard to use and I can't imagine someone who claims to be technically proficiant to have an issue navigating either platform as they are both reasonably logical in where options are kept.

My original post said as much in a simpler way.
If you're struggling to use either, you're not as technically minded as you think you are or you are just spinning BS for whatever reason.
They just aren't hard to use....

 

[niun]

I'm no expert at anything but I have used both platforms and then some.
I wouldn't call android hard to use and I can't imagine someone who claims to be technically proficiant to have an issue navigating either platform as they are both reasonably logical in where options are kept.

My original post said as much in a simpler way.
If you're struggling to use either, you're not as technically minded as you think you are or you are just spinning BS for whatever reason.
They just aren't hard to use....

To be fair to the poster you're not getting a standard Android experience on every device. All apart from the Google Pixel have their own variation which is disappointing (one + being as close as you can get according to reviews I've read).
I have no idea if I picked up a (insert Android phone here) if everything would be where I expect it to be on my One + 3.
I will say this though. Since ditching iOS on my phone, going back to that prison on the iPad is just depressing. :/

 

[Klyster]

They're still not difficult to use...
There might be a slight variation in the menus, there may even be less options.
But hardly difficult to use by any stretch of the imagination, in fact I'd go as far to say some options are easier on android than their IOS counterparts.
Neither are difficult.

 

[zkadda]

Oh, tres bon, a headphone jack reference for "comedy" - very unique! I suppose someone has to be first out of the gate with such wit, eh?

Another Android slab, another month, another meh.
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Who the **** is OnePlus? Really, who are they? Never heard of them until this article.

That "joke" they cracked is one minus for OnePlus


The fact that all these fools MENTION iPhone demonstrates they perceive iPhone as a threat, whether or not they outright admit it or not. Plus, mentioning the world's best smartphone platform gets Apple (MORE) free advertising.

Not very sharp these Android people, are they!

 

[niun]

They're still not difficult to use...
There might be a slight variation in the menus, there may even be less options.
But hardly difficult to use by any stretch of the imagination, in fact I'd go as far to say some options are easier on android than their IOS counterparts.
Neither are difficult.

True. Less cohesive though. You pick up any iOS device (even if you're 3years old) and everything is where you expect it to be.
I ditched iOS for Android a year or so ago and never had any issues, and never looked back.
Going back to iOS causes issues now.

 

[AZ63]

We'll never know, but I am ready to get rid of my old fossil fuel car for a Tesla and my headphone jack for Bluetooth. The future is now.

You're ready? Why aren't you writing how you have done it? Both are out there for you to buy. Go, go pick them up since you are so eager to have the future, I mean, present now.

 

[Getoffmeluckycharms]

Plus, mentioning the world's best smartphone platform gets Apple (MORE) free advertising.

Charging the most for phones and being two generations behind the current technology out there doesn't make you the best smartphone platform out there you know...

 

[zkadda]

Charging the most for phones and being two generations behind the current technology out there doesn't make you the best smartphone platform out there you know...

An oft trotted, tired old line which entirely (and usually knowingly) choose to miss the whole point.

 

[Michael Goff]

Charging the most for phones and being two generations behind the current technology out there doesn't make you the best smartphone platform out there you know...

What part of the iPhone is two generations behind?

 

[Audi09]

All the comments "audio jack has horrible sound" "I spent $$$ on X headphones I never would go back to using a headphone jack" "I want the best sound possible, only with bluetooth" "I need more than 2 sound channels"
It's painful to see how many people try to justify the removal. It's the same way how people justify living then macbook dongle life. Clearly when samsung or other companies still mention how Apple removed the jack it still hurts your sheeple feelings.

 

[Getoffmeluckycharms]

What part of the iPhone is two generations behind?

It's funny how quickly everyone forgets that Apple waits a couple of generations to include things that current generation phones already have in them. When the iPhone 7 came out the only difference it had was a different SoC, screen and USB type C. It's pretty much designed around the same hardware though. Before that, small updates in the SoC and just a larger screen. It took them forever just to get NFC and it's only useful for payments. Bluetooth is lacking because you can't use it to send files which is something a lot of Apple users have wanted yet they won't get no matter how many generations that wait.

 

[KeanosMagicHat]

OnePlus Mocks Removal of Headphone Jack in iPhone 7 While Copying its Design for New OnePlus 5

Good, I'm glad that OnePlus opted for such a similar design that at the same time they proved what most of us knew already, that the, "lack of space" excuse for the removal of the headphone jack by Apple was complete BS.

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. . . Unlike many of Apple's design choices, the decision to eliminate the headphone jack from the iPhone 7 and the iPhone 7 Plus has not caught on with other smartphone manufacturers, likely due to the negative reaction from consumers . . .

I hope other manufacturers continue to hold out until such time as technology can deliver wireless audio at the same quality as delivered by the standard headphone jack.

I believe you shouldn't replace widespread established technology until you have something that delivers noticeably better quality.

 

[Abazigal]

Who??? Am I the only one who's never even heard of Oneplus. Is that a phone or a company? Actually that's a rhetorical question - I don't care.

To be fair, Oneplus mostly advertises online, and via word of mouth. Plus they have no physical retail stores. So if you don't follow tech blogs, it's not surprising if you haven't heard of them.

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

Perhaps they should try and mock the person that invented the phone, Let see how far that will get them.

 

[MacBergin]

Copied Design, Old joke...Who cares about this lame phone. BTW i love my iphone7+ with beats solo3 it has amazing sound and I have no wires.

 

[SSDGUY]

Did you not read my original post? I said I have enjoy GOOD sound audio, so i pay $200 IEMs but then run them from a portable tiny high quality DAC. There's no point in having $200+ IEMS and plugging them into the headphone socket on an iPhone as the DAC costs about $3 and you won't hear the difference over a pair of $80 headphones.

The person who replied to me said it's "all very good for who likes serious audio quality but others just want convenience" to which I replied in that case they can buy a cheap set of headphones and just leave the adapter in the box connected to them. It's literally no different to before for the average user - and if they're really not bothered about sound quality but convenience they'd have been using bluetooth headphones by now anyway.
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You can't afford to just buy a $20 pair of headphones for your phone? Come on man... If you use cheap headphones just use the lightning connect AirPods Apple gives you anyway. You're really clutching at straws here.
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There are no other reasons to want a headphone jack. It's not for sound quality as the iPhone DACS are terrible, so what other reason is there? Convenience. That's it - and i've outlined numerous ways in which it's no less convenient at all. It's just a non issue for any iPhone 7 owner.

Hey guess what? There are folks out there with different experiences and priorities than your own. I have a friend with whom I play music, and a least three times he's wanted to connect his iPhone 7 to an audio system in our rehearsal room, and his dongle (which he keeps on his keychain) was in his car. Sure he could buy another dongle and keep it lying around for such cases but, it is a hassle. Yes there a more important issues in life, but when integrating w/ the rest of the audio world (and when a better DAC is not a priority) the lack of a 3.5mm jack kinda sucks, and will for a quite a while since I'm sure the lighting cable will change again when Apple decides to go another direction, and we'll be buying and messing with yet another dongle.

 

[Michael Goff]

It's funny how quickly everyone forgets that Apple waits a couple of generations to include things that current generation phones already have in them. When the iPhone 7 came out the only difference it had was a different SoC, screen and USB type C. It's pretty much designed around the same hardware though. Before that, small updates in the SoC and just a larger screen. It took them forever just to get NFC and it's only useful for payments. Bluetooth is lacking because you can't use it to send files which is something a lot of Apple users have wanted yet they won't get no matter how many generations that wait.

That’s not a tech issue, iOS is stopping you from sending files via BT. The same can be said of BT. It isn’t them being behind, it’s a different implementation. What actual technology is the iPhone 7 “2 years behind” on?

 

[Getoffmeluckycharms]

That’s not a tech issue, iOS is stopping you from sending files via BT. The same can be said of BT. It isn’t them being behind, it’s a different implementation. What actual technology is the iPhone 7 “2 years behind” on?

I said generations, not years. You obviously didn't read what I said up there. I didn't say it was a tech issue either. Now back to the point, they wait to put current technology into their phones. Say, things that Android phones already have out they will wait a phone or two to implement. Yes, the iPhone 7 has the tech now but it was way behind in being put out. Android phones were out with the technology well before any iPhone had any of it because Apple waited. They waited two generations to catch up to what the current Android devices had out at the time, that's what Apple does.

Let's simplify this for you cause you're having a hard time understanding it. When an Android device comes out with a technology, it's going to take Apple two generations to implement that same technology into their phones. That's how it's always been. Besides having more bands than any other phone for the most part, that's the only thing they beat other manufacturers on.

 

[Michael Goff]

I said generations, not years. You obviously didn't read what I said up there. I didn't say it was a tech issue either. Now back to the point, they wait to put current technology into their phones. Say, things that Android phones already have out they will wait a phone or two to implement. Yes, the iPhone 7 has the tech now but it was way behind in being put out. Android phones were out with the technology well before any iPhone had any of it because Apple waited. They waited two generations to catch up to what the current Android devices had out at the time, that's what Apple does.

Let's simplify this for you cause you're having a hard time understanding it. When an Android device comes out with a technology, it's going to take Apple two generations to implement that same technology into their phones. That's how it's always been. Besides having more bands than any other phone for the most part, that's the only thing they beat other manufacturers on.

Except you're wrong. The iPhone 7 isn't lacking any technology. You're talking about BT file transfer and NFC use as though those are technologies and not implementation details. The iPhone is not behind in technology.