So its likley too be the two top imacs with clarksfield and the two lower with high c2d's?
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So its likley too be the two top imacs with clarksfield and the two lower with high c2d's?
If Windows is the better platform for you - be it for a specific task or all tasks - then use it.
For ripping and converting my commercial BR and DVD discs to a format my
tv can handle, Windows XP and a cheap quad-core SFFPC is the better platform than my MacBook Pro 15", so that is what is sitting on the floor chugging away at the moment on the DVDs that arrived from Amazon yesterday.
And even if my MacBook Pro had a quad-core CPU in it, I'd still be using the SFFPC because it requires so many CPU cycles that it would make my machine sluggish for anything else I was doing.
And I expect I would have paid more for the MacBook Pro with the quad-core CPU than I did for my SFFPC since it likely would have been a top-end model with a 17" display and 4GB of RAM and a 500GB HDD, all of which Apple would have charged me many multiples more than I paid for the same RAM and HDD via third-parties and installed myself in my current MBP.
So if you need a Quad-Core for something (gaming, music/video production, content ripping) then buy a WinBox for that and use your Mac for everything else.
And if you need a Quad-Core for everything, then buy a WinBox, period. And if you really want to run OS X on it as your main OS, then make it into a Hackintosh.
Just please stop bleating about how "Apple sucks" because they don't offer every single thing you want or that WinBoxes do. And please stop accusing me of being a "fanboi/fanboy/idiot/loser" because my needs and decision-making on addressing them doesn't map directly to yours.
Because if either is supposed to make me feel empathy for you, it's not working.
For ripping and converting my commercial BR and DVD discs to a format my
tv can handle, Windows XP and a cheap quad-core SFFPC is the better platform than my MacBook Pro 15", so that is what is sitting on the floor chugging away at the moment on the DVDs that arrived from Amazon yesterday.And even if my MacBook Pro had a quad-core CPU in it, I'd still be using the SFFPC because it requires so many CPU cycles that it would make my machine sluggish for anything else I was doing.
And I expect I would have paid more for the MacBook Pro with the quad-core CPU than I did for my SFFPC since it likely would have been a top-end model with a 17" display and 4GB of RAM and a 500GB HDD, all of which Apple would have charged me many multiples more than I paid for the same RAM and HDD via third-parties and installed myself in my current MBP.
So if you need a Quad-Core for something (gaming, music/video production, content ripping) then buy a WinBox for that and use your Mac for everything else.
And if you need a Quad-Core for everything, then buy a WinBox, period. And if you really want to run OS X on it as your main OS, then make it into a Hackintosh.
Just please stop bleating about how "Apple sucks" because they don't offer every single thing you want or that WinBoxes do. And please stop accusing me of being a "fanboi/fanboy/idiot/loser" because my needs and decision-making on addressing them doesn't map directly to yours.
Because if either is supposed to make me feel empathy for you, it's not working.
No. You dint get it and neither does apple.
If they release quad pros don't by mac pros. But again. Apple doesn't get it. Avid, the makers of pro tool and avid got it do they bought a company called Maudio. The reason being us the pro Sumer, which is a at home and now, mostly all recording stars, lay out their own tracks at home.
This is why in mac pro studios they use pc servers to render not macs. And even larger is the gaming market, 10-1 vs music and video sales combined, but apple still doesn't get it. Release a mid range quad and not only will pros buy them but so won't gamers, video enthusiats, home recording people and would sell millions like maudio does, but again, apple doesn't get it and they still think it will eat away at the mac peo line when in fact these pros would buy these machines in the dozens. As to the iMac being a prosumer machine, the old matte iMacs where in every dewing studio in the world, so your logic is flawed.
The prosumer market far far fr out weighs the pro market and digidesing/avid gets it. Apple does not. In fact they have crapper all over the peonuse and made it almost impossible to use a mobile iMac part machine for serious work.
Apple really needs to get it. Not be focused on thinner.
Peace.
If they release quad pros don't by mac pros. But again. Apple doesn't get it. Avid, the makers of pro tool and avid got it do they bought a company called Maudio. The reason being us the pro Sumer, which is a at home and now, mostly all recording stars, lay out their own tracks at home.
This is why in mac pro studios they use pc servers to render not macs. And even larger is the gaming market, 10-1 vs music and video sales combined, but apple still doesn't get it. Release a mid range quad and not only will pros buy them but so won't gamers, video enthusiats, home recording people and would sell millions like maudio does, but again, apple doesn't get it and they still think it will eat away at the mac peo line when in fact these pros would buy these machines in the dozens. As to the iMac being a prosumer machine, the old matte iMacs where in every dewing studio in the world, so your logic is flawed.
The prosumer market far far fr out weighs the pro market and digidesing/avid gets it. Apple does not. In fact they have crapper all over the peonuse and made it almost impossible to use a mobile iMac part machine for serious work.
Apple really needs to get it. Not be focused on thinner.
Peace.
It's likely everything will be dual core still.
Mobile quad cores don't fit with Apple's style in how the treat and market the iMac. At least from all previous evidence.
They could use the quad core desktop processors designed for all-in-one systems (s models), but these were out before the last revision, I suppose they could have had heat issues before that are resolved now. The other option appears to be the Xeon that has been rumoured, but that suffers from a mix of the issues that arise from moving to desktop processors or using mobile quad cores.
i hope that the new iMac looks just like the new 24" Apple Cinema Display. i used to think the aluminum iMacs were ugly and then i started liking them....until i saw the new cinema display....
on a side note, how come Apple doesn't make some of the MacBook Pro in a black anodized aluminum?
on a side note, how come Apple doesn't make some of the MacBook Pro in a black anodized aluminum?
Apple has only announced iLife ahead of it's year designation once, in 2008, and that is only because they completely missed 2007. So I'd say, no to that. Frankly the iLife/iWork updates have become so boring who cares. And the $79 upgrade is a complete rip for current owners given the minor updates year over year. I'd like to see Apple offer a $29 upgrade for previous year owners, i.e '09 to '10, not '08 to '10.
Maybe...
Or maybe Apple will wait for "cool and fresh" 32nm CPUs to "go QUAD". (first QUAD THREAD with Arrandales in Q1 2010 and then, in Q3 2010, QUAD CORE with the 32nm shrink of clarskfield)...
the point I'm trying to make us that there is a huge market that apple does not target. For example, Finsl Cut is purchased by Prosumers more than Pros. Pros still use avid and after effects, although I have seen FCP on a smallnscale at NBC, Bravo, still, it's purchased by the promsumer.
Gaming: Larger Market then music and videio sales. Music DAWs: 1000 x if not 10,000 to every one Pro purchase.
Audio people neen express slots for FX cards and CPU quad for more FX and virtual instruments plus the ability to use fast ram and 16-32GB if ram and I even hear pros complain that Apple used ecc in the mac pro, keeping Ram upgrades very pricey compaered to non ecc, hello, these are workstations, not servers.
Video: Quad needed fir faster rendering as well as real time FX without rendering and many complaints are that iMovie works easier with FX and codecs than FCP go figure.
Past white Jay Leno matte chin iMacs where in design studio everywhere.
You see, apple bulks Pro with Prosumer when in fact it's not true. Avid/Digidesign saw the writing in the wall and they knew CPUs where getting stronger and people stopped buying Pro Tool TDM systems and started using native RTAS which is very CPU dependent.
This is a huge market and Apple has it wrong that it would eat into Mac Pro sales. Just the opposite. The studios that have mac pros also have PC rendering Xeon servers as it's cheap and works.
Apple would sell 10s of thousands if these si called quad devices. The just need to realize the market for high end CPU machines are wanted in so many areas. It's time for Apple to STOP using old, outdated mobile parts and start using modern parts as one poster said, an iMac stronger then a 2 year old Dell laptop.
Peace.
Gaming: Larger Market then music and videio sales. Music DAWs: 1000 x if not 10,000 to every one Pro purchase.
Audio people neen express slots for FX cards and CPU quad for more FX and virtual instruments plus the ability to use fast ram and 16-32GB if ram and I even hear pros complain that Apple used ecc in the mac pro, keeping Ram upgrades very pricey compaered to non ecc, hello, these are workstations, not servers.
Video: Quad needed fir faster rendering as well as real time FX without rendering and many complaints are that iMovie works easier with FX and codecs than FCP go figure.
Past white Jay Leno matte chin iMacs where in design studio everywhere.
You see, apple bulks Pro with Prosumer when in fact it's not true. Avid/Digidesign saw the writing in the wall and they knew CPUs where getting stronger and people stopped buying Pro Tool TDM systems and started using native RTAS which is very CPU dependent.
This is a huge market and Apple has it wrong that it would eat into Mac Pro sales. Just the opposite. The studios that have mac pros also have PC rendering Xeon servers as it's cheap and works.
Apple would sell 10s of thousands if these si called quad devices. The just need to realize the market for high end CPU machines are wanted in so many areas. It's time for Apple to STOP using old, outdated mobile parts and start using modern parts as one poster said, an iMac stronger then a 2 year old Dell laptop.
Peace.
Dell and even in small form factor.
If you just want the cores you can go with an Athlon II X4 620 for about $100 on the processor alone and a 780/785G board for another $60. The 780G is a decent IGP and it offers HDMI out. I've mention this before but I've installed a few Inspiron 546 towers and even they're sporting HDMI for $287 after tax.
Like it was mentioned before, Handbrake runs just as well under Windows. That's what I do with my DVDs instead of turning my MacBook into a molten pile of plastic.
Perhaps you should reconsider this statement after looking up "FreeBSD" and "OpenStep" on the web.
I've mentioned it before.
You can go even lower with the Athlon II X4 620. It does offer Q8200 performance at ~$100.
Apple should get with the program and offer "True HD" movies at 1080p and high bit rate.
Over-compressed 720p just sucks.
Not completely true. A lot of people do multiple tasks in parallel - and even non "core aware" tasks can run at the same time on a quad (or old dual core).
The "oh, this is slow because the computer is busy" feeling doesn't happen as much on a quad core -- even if your apps are not multi-threaded.
Best argument for Apple to finally make a Core i7 mini-tower that I've heard.
