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Exactly.
Current iMacs exceed the power need of 90% of the users.

The bottleneck is the hard disk, try putting a Intel SSD inside an iMac and you'll see Photoshop loading in 4 seconds, Mail in 1 second, ecc.

Sometimes nerds don't realize that people out there doesn't care about quad-cores or stuff like that. They care about how the computer behave in real world usage.

The challenge now is optimizing software and squeeze all the juice out of the current hardware (64bit, OpenCL, GCD, etc.).

Now if only they could make Cocoa work with C++/C# etc without using Objective-C.
 
How is removing the stand with pictured instructions not user friendly? If you were wall mounting you know what Vesa was in the first place.

It's not user friendly if you need to buy adapters and other crap. With wall mounting removing any inch/ounce counts. Beside you still need a desk for the mouse! I am talking about something that will eliminate need for a desk.
 
Apple wouldn't list specs such as new i7s, USB 3, or anything performance-related in small Google ads. They show off sexy features for mass appeal, and the real things we care about may or may not change.
 
It's not user friendly if you need to buy adapters and other crap. With wall mounting removing any inch/ounce counts. Beside you still need a desk for the mouse! I am talking about something that will eliminate need for a desk.

You need to buy an imac wall mount, then its compatible with any standard wall mount. :confused: Even the most retarded store clerk can tell you that.
 
I agree with the majority of people that unlike most of Apple's products, there is no reason to make the iMac thinner. It should actually be a little thicker so it could house a desktop core 2 quad, but we all know that will never happen.

Based on the rumors, I think that those new Xeon processors will be the way apple goes because it will allow quad-core and turbo boost at decent prices (unlike the Clarksfield chips which are very expensive). The Xeon's operate at lower temps than the Clarksfield (at least that's what I remember reading).
 
Exactly.
Current iMacs exceed the power need of 90% of the users.

The bottleneck is the hard disk, try putting a Intel SSD inside an iMac and you'll see Photoshop loading in 4 seconds, Mail in 1 second, ecc.

Sometimes nerds don't realize that people out there doesn't care about quad-cores or stuff like that. They care about how the computer behave in real world usage.

The challenge now is optimizing software and squeeze all the juice out of the current hardware (64bit, OpenCL, GCD, etc.).

agree - it's sad to think about the lives of those that choose to wine and get so upset about such things.

i am ready to click buy on the new imacs...waiting...
 
Honest question: What would you guys do with that extra power? In terms of actual expectations: are you thinking it would be faster for web surfing or something?

I don't get it. This is an iMac we are talking about, not a gaming PC or a workstation where the processor would matter much. As long as the new iMac is snappy enough and can do everything you want it to do, what difference does it make if it's got the latest-and-greatest or last years tech?

I say they should focus on the things that will make a difference day-to-day. Get it fast enough, sure, but then give me a beautiful screen, great KB&M and a sexy design. That's all I want from the iMac.

Well, I don't want nor can i afford a mac pro at home... Yet it's nice
when can do some after
effects or c4d. So an iMac is perfect, and if had a bit more power vs being thinner, it would be better.
 
Based on the rumors, I think that those new Xeon processors will be the way apple goes because it will allow quad-core and turbo boost at decent prices (unlike the Clarksfield chips which are very expensive). The Xeon's operate at lower temps than the Clarksfield (at least that's what I remember reading).

Get real. Apple is not going to put Zeon processors in it's consumer line of Macs. Quad Core might come in some high end models if the power and heat disipation allows it but it ain't gonna happen in the iMac. The thinner screen could mean LED displays, as another post said, which is a good thing, better video, less power, less heat. Coupled with a price drop AND a boast in mHz will be a very welcome upgrade across the line. I hope so in the Mac Mini. Long Live the Mac Mini!
 
In this (i hate this phrase) "economic climate" it makes a lot of sense to basically offer people the same thing but cheaper, rather than expend R&D on amazing new machines that arnt going to have as large an uptake because people are holding more tightly onto their purse strings.

Visually the iPhone and the litter of iPods have only had minor, or no updates at all, the notebooks are mid cycle anyway (ignoring the entry level), so i would expect any updates to the desktop line to be evolution, not revolution. If im wrong, it would be a pleasant surprise though!

However, as desktops dont sell anymore and with people lapping up those crappy netbooks, if anything actually gets an overhaul, it would surely be the cheap 'little macbook that could'.
 
Get real. Apple is not going to put Zeon processors in it's consumer line of Macs. Quad Core might come in some high end models if the power and heat disipation allows it but it ain't gonna happen in the iMac. The thinner screen could mean LED displays, as another post said, which is a good thing, better video, less power, less heat. Coupled with a price drop AND a boast in mHz will be a very welcome upgrade across the line. I hope so in the Mac Mini. Long Live the Mac Mini!

This was from another thread:

Low Power Xeon L3426 45W 4C/8T with turbo boost (1.86->3.2GHz in Turbo 1 core) (the CPU is only $300 and its designed for 1U server applications which is about the same thermal performance of an iMac)
 
This was from another thread:

Low Power Xeon L3426 45W 4C/8T with turbo boost (1.86->3.2GHz in Turbo 1 core) (the CPU is only $300 and its designed for 1U server applications which is about the same thermal performance of an iMac)

Introducing the slimmer, more powerful, and world's first adaptive iMac?
 
... with people lapping up those crappy netbooks, if anything actually gets an overhaul, it would surely be the cheap 'little macbook that could'.

I agree! The tie-in for Apple is HTPC with video and music from the iTunes store and synergy with the iPhone products. They are going to steer their computer line to maximize that success. Changes that allow greater video bandwidth and viewing experience make sense. The low end line needs updating to compete with the [rather useless] netbooks and lowered economic expectations. Unlike most PC makers, Apple actually makes money selling both hardware and software, whereas PC makers are in a world of hurt.
 
The bottleneck is the hard disk, try putting a Intel SSD inside an iMac and you'll see Photoshop loading in 4 seconds, Mail in 1 second, ecc.

Sometimes nerds don't realize that people out there doesn't care about quad-cores or stuff like that. They care about how the computer behave in real world usage.

The challenge now is optimizing software and squeeze all the juice out of the current hardware (64bit, OpenCL, GCD, etc.).

Why even bother optimizing software when all people do is open and close programs?
 
Well, I for one am excited about the new iMac's whenever they ship. I am in the market for one. The one I have is an 20" iMac 1.8 pPC G5, and it has worked just fine for I don't remember how many years I have had it. But it's time to come into the 21st century. I've owned Apple Products since the Apple IIc. I have never been disappointed with their products.

Here is a suggestion for the Mini's, make them more powerful and give them colors like the iPod Nanos.
 
One of the main features of Snow Leopard was the GCD. "More Cores, not faster clock speeds". So why the hell wouldn't Apple release a quad-core iMac?

If they don't then that is just really dumb.
 
New iMacs... To be THINNER!?

Alright. All over these forums I see people whining and complaining about how the new iMac will "have" a thinner display. Please explain to me what the big deal is. First of all, we don't even know if this is true or not. Second, if its not sacrificing specs, why does it matter? This is not the same as (for example) others stating that Blu-ray is not necessary and me coming back saying if you don't want it don't worry about it and don't use it. It really won't effect you in any way if they decide to make it thinner. Third, do you think apple will actually bring a system down in terms of specs JUST to make a system thinner. Most likely, if this is true, it's because they were able to implement and LED display.

Of course, this is all just an opinion from myself. But is it actually going to effect your decision to purchase or user experience if they make it thinner?

Please leave any comments stating your feelings on this subject.

PS: Haha, bet you thought this was another duplicate thread complaining about thinness...or not. :p
 
OS X is such a great OS - the weeks I had it were amazing. It's a shame that the hardware it's on is such crap.

iMacs aren't a good idea anymore for one reason - they aren't customizable. You can only get what Apple gives you (and they like it this way - want new hardware? Have to get a new iMac). This is the main reason why there isn't a mini upgradable tower.
 
I've been in the market for an iMac, but I've been waiting since July since I figured they'd update before the end of the year. I do graphic design, so I get the whole "aesthetic" thing.. but I honestly do not care if it's thinner. I want a better graphics card. I don't really care all that much about quad core because unless an application is coded to support it.. it doesn't really matter. By the time developers take full advantage of quad, the processors will be standard on all desktops. I'm hoping for a speed bump, better graphics, sd card reader, and a new mighty mouse. I despise the mighty mouse. I guess that's not that big a deal since you can always buy any mouse you want as long as it's supported.. but it'd be nice.

I want a workhorse desktop, not a placemat. I'm hoping by "thinner" they just mean they've managed to shave off an eighth of an inch or rounded corners or something.
 
:confused::confused::confused:Does anyone see some type of integration between the mac mini and Apple TV? The recent price drop of the 160 gb Apple TV, and disco on the 40 gb maybe a clue? Coupled with the other things that are happening?
 
Why is everyone bitching about CPUs and GFX? The only thing which would make a decent performance boost is some of them new SSDs from Intel, or one of the competitors using the same controller.

The tech is stable and screamingly fast now and will make the most dramatic performance boost imaginable.

They're still way expensive, so I doubt at the $499/$1099 price points, apple will win any dumb consumer votes for upgrading a hard disk, when average Joe likes to buy based on GBs and Ghz and Crapacity figures...

That would explain the THIN rumors too, as Apple wouldn't need half the hard disk space in the iMacs going 1.8 or 2.5inch SSDs... Thermal issues would be lessened, too...
 
I've been in the market for an iMac, but I've been waiting since July since I figured they'd update before the end of the year. I do graphic design, so I get the whole "aesthetic" thing.. but I honestly do not care if it's thinner. I want a better graphics card. I don't really care all that much about quad core because unless an application is coded to support it.. it doesn't really matter. By the time developers take full advantage of quad, the processors will be standard on all desktops. I'm hoping for a speed bump, better graphics, sd card reader, and a new mighty mouse. I despise the mighty mouse. I guess that's not that big a deal since you can always buy any mouse you want as long as it's supported.. but it'd be nice.

I want a workhorse desktop, not a placemat. I'm hoping by "thinner" they just mean they've managed to shave off an eighth of an inch or rounded corners or something.

1. Apple wants people like yourself to buy a Mac Pro.

2. With Snow Leopard you will see virtually every major app coded to use multiple processors since it is far easier than under windows.

Snow Leopard can absolutely benefit from quad core at lower clock cycles compared to high click dual core.
 
.... you all are idiots...
Thinner does not mean no quad core... Look at the quad core notebooks that are currently on the market. Look how slim they are compared to a current imac. if anyone made a laptop as fat as an imac, no one would buy it and it would undoubtedly be the thickest laptop on the market.

So how do all of you assume that these companies can fit a whole computer plus a keyboard and trackpad AND battery into something THINNER than an imac, but Apple for some reason has no way of getting this all in to a computer that is not only thicker but much wider and taller than any laptop on the market?

Im not saying the new imacs wont have quads, but just because its thinner dosnt mean it cant
 
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