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Not if they know that they'll more than make up for lost sales during that period as soon as the new iPhone is released.

that's not something that they would be able to know. if all prospective iphone buyers were like us (members of a mac rumours website) then they could perfectly reasonably speculate that they would simply put off the buying until such time as the new phone were out and there would be no loss to apple. but we are in the minority. many people will simply be looking to buy a phone and will choose from those that are available on the day they are making their choice (or shortly after). the risk is that all those type of sales may be lost. and the risk does not just apply to apple but also to their telephone company partners. for instance, for the past two weeks o2 has been turning away prospective iphone customers who want to enter into valuable 18 month contracts.

i will be very surprised if iphones are not available for a month.
 
that's not something that they would be able to know. if all prospective iphone buyers were like us (members of a mac rumours website) then they could perfectly reasonably speculate that they would simply put off the buying until such time as the new phone were out and there would be no loss to apple. but we are in the minority. many people will simply be looking to buy a phone and will choose from those that are available on the day they are making their choice (or shortly after). the risk is that all those type of sales may be lost. and the risk does not just apply to apple but also to their telephone company partners. for instance, for the past two weeks o2 has been turning away prospective iphone customers who want to enter into valuable 18 month contracts.

i will be very surprised if iphones are not available for a month.

Yep. A lot of people don't check thes rumor-sites out, and will just be buying the model in the stores. Even I, didn't use to check rumors. But if no iPhone is availible people is just buying ex a blackburry or similar products.
 
I believe an announcement is imminent! There is no way that apple would not sell the iPhone for a month. I know they were planning on winding down stock but it would be a big mistake not to sell the phone for this period.

It was fairly obvious when O2 discontinued the iPhone but now that Apple is also advertising this in both the US and UK store it's fairly obvious whats going on.

But i do believe that Apple will make a big deal about the release of the 3G iPhone, so we should be waiting to hear about a media event coming up any minute!!
 
ok its still on 'Ships: Currently Unavailable' for both the UK and US store. And in the UK carphonewarehouse online are out of stock of both versions with o2 just having the 16GB avaliable. Now, this is really odd, especially as Apple have joined in not selling them which makes it more official as their instructions would probably come from the top.

So i used the chat system to talk to an Apple UK store help person, and i asked if they have any info as to when iphones may be available again. Their straight answer was "We have no details on that no" and i said i can't seem to get them anywhere and he said "I know what you mean". So it looks like the representatives are really being kept in the dark which is strange as surely for any other item they'd have some sort of stock information to inform customers.

Version 2 must be coming pretty soon!! And even though all hints point at early June announcement at Jobs's Keynote, that's quite a long way away with no sales of the iPhone for Apple!
 
What about this? If they were to continue selling the iPhone up until the new one is released, how many people would take their week-old iPhone back and pay the restocking fee to get the new one?

I guess one way to stop this would be to not sell any iPhones for a period of time which would mean the last people to buy them couldn't just take them back.

Maybe a reach, but a lot of stuff on this site is.:D
 
What about this? If they were to continue selling the iPhone up until the new one is released, how many people would take their week-old iPhone back and pay the restocking fee to get the new one?

I guess one way to stop this would be to not sell any iPhones for a period of time which would mean the last people to buy them couldn't just take them back.

Maybe a reach, but a lot of stuff on this site is.:D

drastic when they can sell the returns as refurbs and not make a loss.
 
I was wrong about the Apple Store. Interesting...

But, O2 does still have stock as does AT&T so I wouldn't read too much into it yet. There are many reasons why the iPhone would be temporarily unavailable online that aren't foreshadowing a 3G release.
 
Likewise.

And I am afraid that we have a long wait for it to arrive here.

Well, you can always get a 3G iPhone from Europe/USA and use in Japan with SoftBank or Docomo. It will be a long wait since both are super control freaks and I bet are fighting for branding and paid service content aka Softbank's My Yahoo, S-Applis and such - installed on iPhones. All of the Japanese phone makers are under the carriers strict regime, thus Apple might have a really hard time getting his toy on sale in Japan.
 
I was wrong about the Apple Store. Interesting...

But, O2 does still have stock as does AT&T so I wouldn't read too much into it yet. There are many reasons why the iPhone would be temporarily unavailable online that aren't foreshadowing a 3G release.

well o2 only have 16GB and nothing in apple online stores in two separate continents at exactly the same time. something is afoot.
 
i can see the lack of iphones available direct from Apple as a bigger sign of a soonish release of the next version as it's directly down to them how much stock they have, sell etc. With AT&T and o2 they just bought the stock from Apple and so will sell it until its all gone or they'll lose out.
 
well o2 only have 16GB and nothing in apple online stores in two separate continents at exactly the same time. something is afoot.

Honestly, you think the new phone is going to come out before the WWDC? And the 2.0 software update? I can easily see it happen after WWDC, but not before. That's not Apple's MO. But who knows?
 
i can see the lack of iphones available direct from Apple as a bigger sign of a soonish release of the next version as it's directly down to them how much stock they have, sell etc. With AT&T and o2 they just bought the stock from Apple and so will sell it until its all gone or they'll lose out.

and apple are so good at stock levels. except when they ran out of imacs before the new one was released.
 
Honestly, you think the new phone is going to come out before the WWDC? And the 2.0 software update? I can easily see it happen after WWDC, but not before. That's not Apple's MO. But who knows?

i haven't got a clue. except that i definitely think it's coming out in the next few weeks rather than months.

i won't be surprised if it comes out next week or if it comes out next month.
 
I hope it's available soon, the 3G iPhone that is. I can't wait until June WWDC for it to be released seriously!

And I agree it is not logical for them to keep it unavailable until June to sell it.
 
Looks as though they're both still available at the Apple online store in France and Germany. Hope for everyone waiting it comes out soon though. My (non iPhone) contract doesn't finish until November.
 
Looks as though they're both still available at the Apple online store in France and Germany. Hope for everyone waiting it comes out soon though. My (non iPhone) contract doesn't finish until November.

the french online apple store says you have to buy from france telecom. my german isn't up to much but it looks like the same deal at the german online apple store (except obviously you are directed to t-mobile).
 
A real reason for why this is happening is that Apple wants to avoid all of the returns when people dumb enough to buy the EDGE iPhone the day before the 3G and they come in the next day saying they want to exchange the phone. Strategic - and save lots of money, they may start to sell the EDGE one again when the 3G come out...
 
A real reason for why this is happening is that Apple wants to avoid all of the returns when people dumb enough to buy the EDGE iPhone the day before the 3G and they come in the next day saying they want to exchange the phone. Strategic - and save lots of money, they may start to sell the EDGE one again when the 3G come out...

the day before is one thing, for a number is weeks is another matter altogether. the 8GB has already been unavailable at all o2 and cpw shops for two weeks. and if we're not expecting a new model until WWDC, that's another four weeks. that's a long time especially when you take into account it's only been out in the UK since november.
 
the french online apple store says you have to buy from france telecom. my german isn't up to much but it looks like the same deal at the german online apple store (except obviously you are directed to t-mobile).

Thanks! I've been learning some French but obviously not enough! :)
 
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