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Only one that thinks this was the most incremental upgrade yet?
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We can only compare the S models.
3GS: Speed, 3G, camera
4S: speed, Siri, camera
5S: speed, fingerprint, camera
Looks about predictable to me. Not really understanding the huge fuss.
3GS: Speed, 3G, camera
4S: speed, Siri, camera
5S: speed, fingerprint, camera
Looks about predictable to me. Not really understanding the huge fuss.
Wow.
With posts like this I'd assume you're basically a Samsung / HTC / Moto rep that is here to try and spread confusion about the iPhone 5s in an attempt to steal customers.
No new features? Laughable
3G was added on the 3G. I think the 3GS was truly the most incremental update. Other than the processor improvements (which was a smaller improvement than going from the A4 to the A5 from the 4 to the 4S) and the minor camera change to include video, what else was there? What I'm saying here is directed to the OP more than your post, sorry for quoting
Shoot sorry. Then yeah the 3GS was definitely the most incremental unless you include the change of color to the lettering on the back of the phone
Holy *****, I just changed someone's mind on the internet.
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Never said it was revolutionairy, but the 3GS/4S didn't have these kind of improvements. Especially the FP sensor is something new since it really changes the way you use your phone, for the first time ever since the original iPhone. To me that's pretty huge.
I disagree. The FP sensor could change the way we use our phone. Right now the FP sensor is a faster way to enter a password.
I don't know, I'm really excited about the front facing HD camera when I facetime with the GF. She's going to get it too so it will be nice to see the difference.
I thought the 4 to 4S was the most incremental. The new processor was good but other than that weren't they exactly the same (minus antennagate)?
5 to 5S is pretty huge for an upgrade I think. The M7 processor will open up new fitness apps and abilities. Touch ID will be super convenient. And for those crying about security -- your fingerprints are ****ing everywhere. Stop complaining that people could "copy" your fingerprint from your phone because no one will take the time to do that when they could simply just hack your passcode (JUST LIKE BEFORE!!! ) I don't remember Apple ever saying that Touch ID was an infallible security measure... It's made for convenience -- and it will be incredibly convenient for those of us who use passcodes and passwords in the app store.
Then comes the new camera, which isn't super important to me, but as an upgrade it's pretty massive. Better quality, matrix metering/focus, burst, high framerate video... It's not your average old iPhone camera anymore.
More LTE bands is also an excellent upgrade for those of us who don't live in cities. Some people are even complaining about this feature -- that there were "enough" bands in the iPhone 5. Are you mentally ill? Maybe they should have limited LTE or removed it altogether to make you guys happier.
5 to 5S is pretty huge for an upgrade I think. The M7 processor will open up new fitness apps and abilities. Touch ID will be super convenient. And for those crying about security -- your fingerprints are ****ing everywhere. Stop complaining that people could "copy" your fingerprint from your phone because no one will take the time to do that when they could simply just hack your passcode (JUST LIKE BEFORE!!!
) I don't remember Apple ever saying that Touch ID was an infallible security measure... It's made for convenience -- and it will be incredibly convenient for those of us who use passcodes and passwords in the app store.Then comes the new camera, which isn't super important to me, but as an upgrade it's pretty massive. Better quality, matrix metering/focus, burst, high framerate video... It's not your average old iPhone camera anymore.
More LTE bands is also an excellent upgrade for those of us who don't live in cities. Some people are even complaining about this feature -- that there were "enough" bands in the iPhone 5. Are you mentally ill? Maybe they should have limited LTE or removed it altogether to make you guys happier.
Sorry to kill your idea. Due to a recent patent troll loss, Apple has been forced to rework the way Facetime works and as a result the quality is worse across every Apple device even if they have a better camera.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...e-tweaks-facetime-and-logs-500000-complaints/
Let's see -only new operating system software, new processor, new chip set, new camera, new security, etc. - nothing new?
I think the upgrades are great - what we really don't have yet is the 3rd party software that will take advantage of the processor and M7 chip etc. Yes Apple makes hardware and software, unlike Some others at this point, but among the main features of any computer (which a smart phone is) is what software develops for it.
I think we'll see great new and updated software.
I think the upgrades are great - what we really don't have yet is the 3rd party software that will take advantage of the processor and M7 chip etc. Yes Apple makes hardware and software, unlike Some others at this point, but among the main features of any computer (which a smart phone is) is what software develops for it.
I think we'll see great new and updated software.
Any Hardware Designs that would improve connectivity
Has anyone heard if the 5s hardware design have made any noticeable improvements to reception and connectivity?
I realize that reception and connectivity are highly dependent on each carrier's infrastructure. However, it seems that the iPhone 5 has had its share of issues across all carriers. (I had the same problem when I upgraded from a HTC EVO 4G to a HTC EVO 3D. I should have never made the move.)
Anyway, my wife and I both have the iPhone 5 with fairly consistent dropped calls and lackluster reception. It may be a Sprint issue, but I was curious if there are any hardware design improvements with the antennas and such that might result in better reception and fewer dropped calls.
If yes, it may be worth an upgrade for us. If not, it may not - from both personal and financial points of view.
Thanks for any insights!
Has anyone heard if the 5s hardware design have made any noticeable improvements to reception and connectivity?
I realize that reception and connectivity are highly dependent on each carrier's infrastructure. However, it seems that the iPhone 5 has had its share of issues across all carriers. (I had the same problem when I upgraded from a HTC EVO 4G to a HTC EVO 3D. I should have never made the move.)
Anyway, my wife and I both have the iPhone 5 with fairly consistent dropped calls and lackluster reception. It may be a Sprint issue, but I was curious if there are any hardware design improvements with the antennas and such that might result in better reception and fewer dropped calls.
If yes, it may be worth an upgrade for us. If not, it may not - from both personal and financial points of view.
Thanks for any insights!
I guess they could always use the HD front facing camera with a 3rd party video chat application that didn't suffer a patent troll loss.
Good info though, thanks for the link
I honestly believe this is biggest "S" update so far.
TouchID, this is intended to get people to put protection on their phones. I don't have a password because it's inconvinient, but I will have a TouchID. I think many people will also do the same.
64bit in mobile is unheard of and will help the phone be even more blazing lay fast. Plus you know it's a big deal when the very next day Samsung makes a "hey we are doing that too" announcement.
Camera upgrades are pretty cool. Samsung prefers to just throw more MP into the sensor. Apple went a different route. Both will produce better pictures but the iPhone pictures should hopefully be smaller in size.
The other things they have done separate from iOS7 is pretty cool too and I am quite pleased with the new phone. In fact the only disappointment I had on Tuesday was no preorders.
I am upgrading on Friday from an iPhone 5.
TouchID, this is intended to get people to put protection on their phones. I don't have a password because it's inconvinient, but I will have a TouchID. I think many people will also do the same.
64bit in mobile is unheard of and will help the phone be even more blazing lay fast. Plus you know it's a big deal when the very next day Samsung makes a "hey we are doing that too" announcement.
Camera upgrades are pretty cool. Samsung prefers to just throw more MP into the sensor. Apple went a different route. Both will produce better pictures but the iPhone pictures should hopefully be smaller in size.
The other things they have done separate from iOS7 is pretty cool too and I am quite pleased with the new phone. In fact the only disappointment I had on Tuesday was no preorders.
I am upgrading on Friday from an iPhone 5.
This is the way I see it, too.
For phone photographers and serious gamers, it's a huge upgrade. Unfortunately I'm neither of those.
Thank you for this. I am one who had planned on the 5S from the moment rumors started about 2 versions. Even after the keynote. But over the past few days, I've really been thinking about the 5C and it's definitely "enough" for what I need. And I'm becoming partial to that Blue!! Good to hear that it feel nice to hold.
BUT the new camera & features is what keeps me borderline. The fingerprint scanner isn't a big thing to me though I'm sure it will be come a thing of the future. And I don't play games much on my phone but I'm sure other apps will take advantage of the 64bit/A7/M7 soon.
It's nice to hear the opinion of someone who has played w/ both though. Now I'm more torn than ever. lol. I guess I will just have to see both in person before making a final decision.
Thanks for the information, I'll probably just use the Skype app or some other app. Do you have any suggestions on any third-party apps that will utilize the HD front-facing camera?
Yep! But this isn't just "rampant technology for technology's sake" like the Atrix (which was probably using a FP scanner purely for marketing and not focusing on UX at all)
I think that there's a huge difference between the overall "experience" you get when you buy an Android handset vs. an iPhone.
Samsung (most popular Android handheld manufacture) sells parts. They flaunt the very best display, very best camera, processor, etc. Whether or not this actually adds to a user's benefit, they do this to sell the product. Notice that as a result, TouchWiz is horrendous at doing these parts any justice in terms of any user experience. Think about it: an iPhone with a Samsung AMOLED display with Nokia's 41 MP camera, NFC, 4G-LTE-Advanced, etc. That would be incredible!- but why is that not as incredible when we buy existing competitors to iPhone? (fandroids be like "because you're all iSheep")
Because Apple, on the other hand, often holds back newer technology on their phones. This could be interpreted as a good or bad thing, but they do this to avoid the compromises they would make on the user's end. Ease of use and quality play in to this, but I think that the end result is that they don't sell merely parts encased in plastic - they sell an experience. Sometimes they are slow at refining this experience for newer technologies (they were late to fingerprint scanners, they're still late to larger screens [I don't mind this at all] and NFC), but it's ultimately a person's preference between the latest parts and the best experience.
People love to show off Android handsets to me to tell me what I'm missing out on, but I remember that Apple will do it someday, and they'll do it right
Fingerprint sensor + linked apple ID + Passbook and/or low-powered Bluetooth = secure mobile payment system.
64-bit CPU means better performance & battery life from games and CPU-intensive apps like photo/video manipulation. More importantly, with iOS and OS X (which is 64-bit) having so much in common, this will make it easier for devs to have apps that work on both iOS and OS X.
M7 - most overlooked new feature. Forget fitness apps and start thinking location services. Combined with background processing in iOS, your phone now has the capability of waking up for very brief periods of time, checking the sensor logs and combining with last known position from GPS to know exactly where you are and how fast you're moving. Not only will this make Maps more responsive, but geo-fencing will now be practical without draining your battery life with constantly polling position with an active CPU.
Some of you people act like Apple is forcing you to get the new iPhone. When was the 'S' update a HUGE MAJOR update?! Never! Even though this update is great IMO, just wait for the 6.
You don't have to buy anything...
You don't have to buy anything...
I don't think it is right to call 4S the most incremental upgrade as Siri was a huge selling point and differentiator. Apple ran classic ads promoting Siri for at least a year, and the 4S was a huge seller. The iPhone 5S may be a bigger hardware upgrade than the 4S but as far as usable feaures, the upgrades are the fingerprint sensor and a few camera modes, which are arguably less of an upgrade. So it is debateable.
3GS was a significant camera upgrade. Honestly the iPhone camera was somewhat poor until the 3GS; since the 3GS, the iPhone has had the best smartphone camera available (excluding whatever that Nokia 41 MP thing is)
3GS was a significant camera upgrade. Honestly the iPhone camera was somewhat poor until the 3GS; since the 3GS, the iPhone has had the best smartphone camera available (excluding whatever that Nokia 41 MP thing is)