I wouldn't prefer the name Badboy pro to macbook pro, not in this or any other universe. And i'm pretty sure he was having a little joke with that suggestion. And even if he wasn't, I stand by my statement that your reply was out of proportion. Furthermore, I never said you were infringing on his right to name his computer. Also, in this thread I haven't seen a single post in which he gloated. He asked the OP why he picked that computer instead of the 15", but I wouldn't call that gloating, just idle chat.
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I wouldn't prefer the name Badboy pro to macbook pro, not in this or any other universe. And i'm pretty sure he was having a little joke with that suggestion. And even if he wasn't, I stand by my statement that your reply was out of proportion. Furthermore, I never said you were infringing on his right to name his computer. Also, in this thread I haven't seen a single post in which he gloated. He asked the OP why he picked that computer instead of the 15", but I wouldn't call that gloating, just idle chat.
People come to these forums to learn a little and to enjoy themselves. Not to be annoyed by one member who pops up in threads to type Bad Boy Pro.
The expenditure of money on a MBP was not an investment. It was an expense. Ergo, not an investment.
A computer is not an investment. It is a tool- a piece of equipment- that depreciates over time. Investments tend to appreciate over time. It doesn't matter how matte your screen is, or how fast your processor is, or how badly you want to call it an investment. It's simply not an investment. A computer would never be accounted for in your personal finances or on a company's financial statements as an investment.
There is a reason for dictionaries. Making up your own definitions for words is completely guitar.
He came here to gloat:
I see you didn't go for the Bad Boy Pro. Any reason for that?
It was a way for the OP to ask him what a Badboy Pro is, so that he could then tell everyone how amazing his MBP is and how inferior the OP's purchase is in comparison. How is that helpful?
I was not implying that you are a simpleton. Chill dude.
If he wants to call his MBP that stupid name, then fine. He just doesn't need to plaster it all over these forums all the time.
My statement that you haven't been here too long wasn't meant to insult you or to make you feel like an outsider. I was not trying to discredit your argument with that. The simple fact that you haven't been around for long means that you haven't been exposed to the Badboy Pro retardedness as much as the people who have been complaining in this thread. That is all that I meant by it. I am no better than you because I've been a member for longer.
Your faulty claims about a computer being an investment (which it's not) and the idea that you have future-proofed your purchase (which you didn't), along with your frequent comments to others, deriding their choice of 13" or 17" MBPs, qualifies many of your posts as rants. In addition, because you know your comments add no meaningful value to the topics being discussed, but rather, stir up dissent, they also qualify for the definition of trolling:
Of course, you are all-knowing and incapable of mistakes:
I love GGJstudios. iThink I can say, our posts are much better when they aren't a bunch of mroogle links.
The MacBook Pro, like every other personal computer, is NOT protected from the consequences that future developments and releases will have on its value. There is nothing you can do to prevent a personal computer from becoming obsolete. Obsolescence is directly influenced by the rate of new advancements in technology, and not by anything that a purchaser can do. His MacBook Pro will become outdated at exactly the same rate as others with similar specs. Checking current resale values will prove this, without question.
His profession is the investment, not the computer. The computer is an expenditure. If you invest in a pizza restaurant, the ovens, cash registers, equipment, furnishings, etc. are expenditures. They have no investment value whatsoever, unless they're applied within the context of an operating business. If you buy them and put them in storage for 5 years, they will lose value. The value, and therefore, the investment, lies in the business, which is capable of providing a return.
An investment is designed to return more than what you put into it. Of course, some investments have the risk of losing value. Unlike an investment, however, a personal computer is guaranteed to lose value.
So because your definition of an investment doesn't fit mine then my posts are rants??
Yeah right.
So because your definition of an investment doesn't fit mine then my posts are rants??
Yeah right.
A child could say that candy is an investment. That doesn't make it so. It's not your definition vs mine; it's your definition vs the definition accepted worldwide, that existed before you were born. Because you choose not to understand or agree with the accepted definition doesn't change the facts.
If shambo tried to sell his/her BadBoy Pro on the Marketplace, it might get a higher return, given that it's specialness.
I invested my money in a machine to allow me to earn money and further develop my career. My BadBoy Pro is therefore an I N V E S T M E N T.
As previously stated it makes me a return every week. The invested money pays off each and every week. Hard to comprehend, eh?
This thread is ridiculous, he's taking the micky and your all lapping it up and deconstructing his arguments, basically doing exactly what he wants you to do, he's being sarcastic and stringing everyone along.
That's unclear. Given shambo's posts throughout the forum, sarcasm doesn't seem to fit.
You, operating in your business or profession, is the investment, since that is what's capable of generating money. You invested money in your profession. The money was used to purchase a tool (the MacBook Pro), which is a capital expenditure. If the computer was lost, stolen or broken, you would still have the profession, even though your productivity would be impacted. However, if you lost the profession, the MacBook Pro, in and of itself, is incapable of generating an income. Therefore, it's incapable of being an investment.
A basic business course would clear up this confusion for you.
He was not comparing it to similarly specced models, he was comparing it to lower specced models. These will become "obsolete"(though what actually classes as obsolete is difficult to qualify) sooner than his computer because it is of higher spec. The important word in the definition was early (as in early obsolescence). Clearly all computers will get to be obsolete sooner or later, but some will get there quicker than others.
As for the investment thing, as already stated the investment is not technically the computer, and it is not his profession, but the outlay of money itself. He has certainly invested IN his computer. Quite why any of you have a problem with him calling it an investment is beyond me. All your arguments for why it's not an investment are (technically) as flawed as his arguments are that it is an investment.
^^^^^ It is not an investment because a computer does not meet the requirements for being an investment.
I think you mean a basic B U S I N E S S course.
I think you mean a basic B U S I N E S S course.
What's with these guys? I thought I was the only one. Cap1 was my first credit card and I got it back in 2005 when I got out of the Marines. I've had ONE credit limit increase ($300 -> $500) and my credit is pretty darn good. I have several other credit cards with limits much higher.
Interesting. I've been a Capital One cardholder for less than a year and have had 2 credit line increases already
I seem to recall in my acceptance letter something about just paying ontime each and every month and every 3 months they would look at raising my credit limit OK, this'll be my last post as I'm getting bored of this (I know I started it, but I hate to see someone ganged up on, even if a teeny bit deserving). I have gone to dictionary.com and typed in Investment. This is what I've found:
in⋅vest⋅ment-noun
...
3. a thing invested in, as a business, a quantity of shares of stock, etc.
He invested in his computer (I can't be arsed to copy and paste the definition of the phrasal verb "invest in", but he did) so it is an investment.
Further down:
in·vest·ment (ĭn-věst'mənt)
n.
...
3. Property or another possession acquired for future financial return or benefit.
This also fits the bill
Further down, which should be the clincher:
Financial Dictionary
Investment
An asset or item that is purchased with the hope that it will generate income or appreciate in the future. In an economic sense, an investment is the purchase of goods that are not consumed today but are used in the future to create wealth. In finance, an investment is a monetary asset purchased with the idea that the asset will provide income in the future or appreciate and be sold at a higher price.
This seems to corroborate both sides, so will hopefully end the tedium. I think shambo probably realises he's been annoying a few members here, and might tone it down a bit. If he doesn't, well, it doesn't really matter.
in⋅vest⋅ment-noun
...
3. a thing invested in, as a business, a quantity of shares of stock, etc.
He invested in his computer (I can't be arsed to copy and paste the definition of the phrasal verb "invest in", but he did) so it is an investment.
Further down:
in·vest·ment (ĭn-věst'mənt)
n.
...
3. Property or another possession acquired for future financial return or benefit.
This also fits the bill
Further down, which should be the clincher:
Financial Dictionary
Investment
An asset or item that is purchased with the hope that it will generate income or appreciate in the future. In an economic sense, an investment is the purchase of goods that are not consumed today but are used in the future to create wealth. In finance, an investment is a monetary asset purchased with the idea that the asset will provide income in the future or appreciate and be sold at a higher price.
This seems to corroborate both sides, so will hopefully end the tedium. I think shambo probably realises he's been annoying a few members here, and might tone it down a bit. If he doesn't, well, it doesn't really matter.
Oh, and OP, congrats on the new computer, I'm hoping to get one like that after the updates, but minus the SSD. Too rich for my blood
Interesting. I've been a Capital One cardholder for less than a year and have had 2 credit line increases already
True. I got the same deal. I went from $1K -> $1,500. I don't count that as a raise. I count that as a "We're willing to give you 1.5K but you have to prove yourself." It isn't a real increase.
I'm sick of hearing Shambo's ramblings about his MacBook Pro. He doesn't even have the best one out there. He trolls the boards telling everyone that they should buy his specifically-specced computer. One size doesn't fit all.
He ruins every thread he touches by instilling anger in people because he thinks his computer is superior.
Interesting. I've been a Capital One cardholder for less than a year and have had 2 credit line increases already
Definitely not the same treatment I get. I paid my card off every paycheck (every two weeks) and have been denied every request for an increase. It's cool though. They're not making money off me anymore. The card sits in my dresser drawer with a zero balance.
Thank you. And with that clarification, and own my final comment on my investment, I think we can all agree neither was he right nor was I wrong.
Who are you with now? I may just switch..
I'm considering Citi or Bank of America (since I'm with BoA for my checking accounts).
Thank you. And with that clarification, and own my final comment on my investment, I think we can all agree neither was he right nor was I wrong.
That doesn't clarify anything.