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OpenAI Reportedly Working on an AI Smartphone to Rival iPhone
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Gee, I bet the Apple folks are shaking in their ...Nikes
I was going to say that competition is good, but I don't really see any.
I was going to say that competition is good, but I don't really see any.
Yeah right. Like I’m going to PAY Scam Altman for a product to explicitly sell my data for a huge profit and also do all the training of the models for free. Get bent, Scam Altman
Mac Fly (film)
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Why would you want a phone running one AI model, vs a phone that can run any AI model?
There’s a significant number of people that have tied their personalities to ChatGPT. These are the folks crying out when a minor change in the model makes their “best friend” respond differently. These are not the folks interested in using different models for different tasks. (Folks that use different models will just continue to use the phone they’re using.) Offer these folks unlimited ChatGPT tokens when used from their phone, and they’d happily pay to talk and talk and talk as much as they want to ChatGPT. And, if OpenAI gets set up like an MVNO, they could get cell service subscription payments making it a profitable venture for them. And, actually, if it offered regular phone service AND had WhatsApp available, that’s all a large portion of the world would need. It would be an interesting test of an agentic deployment!
Nah, an AI phone would eat Android’s lunch. Folks are already clamoring for something not-Android that’s also not-Apple, and in some cases, these folks also want a simpler phone with no or few apps. To me, this appears to be the right time for it.
mikeack
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Wasn't that actually our boy Ternus...
Pretty sure every object in Jony Ive's house floats in the air in rooms filled with nothing but white light.
Probably not worth engaging, but how is Tim Cook bad exactly? He's led the most trusted-tech company on the planet in terms of privacy and reliability. Consumers trust iPhones. That's a fact no one can argue with.
transpo1
macrumors 68000
I do feel like he must have some resentment towards Apple.
Spec360
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Pretty much given that it will be an Android-based phone. It's massively too complex to build a new operating system at this stage of the game.
It shows Kuo never tried to use a Piece of Crap with Windows 11 as it captures all of that and way more 😁
They never learn lol. Not even anyone at OpenAI would be ready to swap their iPhone for their own device.
Darmok N Jalad
macrumors 603
Aren’t these folks the ones going back to flip phones? They don’t want more tech, they want less. AI simplicity phones will just be a reprieve from the path that all tech seems to head down— an ad-serving, user telemetry machine.
Armada2
macrumors 6502
Sorry you ran out of tokens - you will have to wait 24 hours before you can use the phone again..
Some good responses in here, but I see a lot of people saying that this thing won't be a threat to Apple. That's probably true, but we should also remember one thing from the past:
Smugness like that and the "Imagine That" ad campaign showed a complacency that really bit Apple in the posterior, as the years passed. Ternus will most likely get the company moving forward with some direction now, instead of just inertia, but everything in the works at other companies - especially ones like Altman's which seem to have that "web 1.0" kind of burn money being thrown at it - really has to be considered.
Human interface is going to be the next big development in the OS field. This phone will have a screen but it may not be used for much other than watching videos, or single-instance data entry (phone numbers, for example). The OS in this phone may not just be the AI we're all unfortunately used to now, it may actually build the experience "on-the-fly". Like having a true personal assistant :"Make it so, Number One".
If thats the case, there's no need for an ecosystem at all. No need for apps to play music when you can say "play music that I like today", and the AI will build a music list from its perception of your attitude. No need for a contacts list when you can say something like "call the guy I spoke to last week about pressure washing the house". In fact there's no need for any kind of file manager or Finder when you can simply describe what you're looking for and the OS finds it. I think thats where everything is going. I don't like it but I can't stop "progress" any more than I can stand in front of a flood and block it.
I spoke here a few years back about a project Apple had on the front burner back in 2010-2011 that would have played well with this kind of thing. It was referred to as Project Magic, because it really would look like magic when the user implemented it. I didn't give out any details then because I was concerned that some Android folks might grab the idea and bring it back to Sauron, and now with AI scraping every forum and public square - and a lot of private ones as well - I'm doubly concerned that someone like Scam Altman and OpenSore could make use of the concept. I don't know what's happened with the project because we're several years past when the technology caught up to the concept.
Maybe they're waiting for Siri.
Smugness like that and the "Imagine That" ad campaign showed a complacency that really bit Apple in the posterior, as the years passed. Ternus will most likely get the company moving forward with some direction now, instead of just inertia, but everything in the works at other companies - especially ones like Altman's which seem to have that "web 1.0" kind of burn money being thrown at it - really has to be considered.
Human interface is going to be the next big development in the OS field. This phone will have a screen but it may not be used for much other than watching videos, or single-instance data entry (phone numbers, for example). The OS in this phone may not just be the AI we're all unfortunately used to now, it may actually build the experience "on-the-fly". Like having a true personal assistant :"Make it so, Number One".
If thats the case, there's no need for an ecosystem at all. No need for apps to play music when you can say "play music that I like today", and the AI will build a music list from its perception of your attitude. No need for a contacts list when you can say something like "call the guy I spoke to last week about pressure washing the house". In fact there's no need for any kind of file manager or Finder when you can simply describe what you're looking for and the OS finds it. I think thats where everything is going. I don't like it but I can't stop "progress" any more than I can stand in front of a flood and block it.
I spoke here a few years back about a project Apple had on the front burner back in 2010-2011 that would have played well with this kind of thing. It was referred to as Project Magic, because it really would look like magic when the user implemented it. I didn't give out any details then because I was concerned that some Android folks might grab the idea and bring it back to Sauron, and now with AI scraping every forum and public square - and a lot of private ones as well - I'm doubly concerned that someone like Scam Altman and OpenSore could make use of the concept. I don't know what's happened with the project because we're several years past when the technology caught up to the concept.
Maybe they're waiting for Siri.
dontwalkhand
macrumors 604
It is literally going to be another Android phone. That’s what it always is. Anything else and it is a guaranteed fail, instead of a high probability fail.
Arislan
macrumors member
I can see MS trying to make a Copilot phone not realizing that everyone on earth thinks Copilot is a deranged mental patient and not a useful tool.