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'OpenMac' Promises $399 Headless Mac... But Not From Apple
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They basically don't have a leg to stamp with if the emulation doesn't involve distributing Sony firmware everywhere.
Even if it does, it's hard to pin down who to sue if the person doing the emulating owns a Playstation.
@bobbleheadbob: That's fair. Not everyone needs that. Some people do.
exposing the underbelly of the workfare market
can't say this is legal, nor moral (if this comp pulled open source hacks into a commercial product) but
it does show a lot of people (half those here and I bet lots more in reality) are worried about $$$ more than in past 15 yrs, and value sells
Eee laptop, cheap mac, 98 cent extra value meals...
we'll be seeing a lot more of us workfare class types exploring those bargain items for a while.
can't say this is legal, nor moral (if this comp pulled open source hacks into a commercial product) but
it does show a lot of people (half those here and I bet lots more in reality) are worried about $$$ more than in past 15 yrs, and value sells
Eee laptop, cheap mac, 98 cent extra value meals...
we'll be seeing a lot more of us workfare class types exploring those bargain items for a while.
I know a lot of people who would love to try mac, but balk at its lack of options and perceived lesser value hardware wise compared with pc's. Heck, I'm going to be sending them the link.
These same people have an aversion to apple's current product line and price points. They smirk at mini's, poo poo the graphics cards in iMacs and gasp at the cost of the Mac Pro. They're not going to be running to the apple store anytime soon. How would these people buying this system cannibalize mac sales?
These same people would be buying software and supporting developers for the mac platform. Again, how is that bad for Apple? I think Apple should sell them copies of 10.4 for their machines and contractually obligate them to keep leopard off of them.
People who value style, design and simplicity (stuff working right out of the box) will continue to buy macs from the apple store and et cetera. If apple cracks down hard on this company, I think it will be to its detriment. IMHO.
These same people have an aversion to apple's current product line and price points. They smirk at mini's, poo poo the graphics cards in iMacs and gasp at the cost of the Mac Pro. They're not going to be running to the apple store anytime soon. How would these people buying this system cannibalize mac sales?
These same people would be buying software and supporting developers for the mac platform. Again, how is that bad for Apple? I think Apple should sell them copies of 10.4 for their machines and contractually obligate them to keep leopard off of them.
People who value style, design and simplicity (stuff working right out of the box) will continue to buy macs from the apple store and et cetera. If apple cracks down hard on this company, I think it will be to its detriment. IMHO.
I see nothing wrong but what's the difference between this the Apple clones from way back when? Why would this company stay in business?
What makes this specifically for Macs? Can't this box run Vista and Linux as well?
What makes this specifically for Macs? Can't this box run Vista and Linux as well?
What a despicable comment. If Apple cultivates this attitude, it deserves to return to the state of near extinction where it found itself in the 1990s.
Amazingly, Psystar site appears to be down...
I can't get onto PSYSTAR'S web site...
Strange that.
I can't get onto PSYSTAR'S web site...
Strange that.
From what I know, EFI EMU V8 is a "product of Russia" with it's main developer residing there...Don't know if DMCA can do anything. (IANAL, though...)
AppleMojo you need to get over your whole BS attitude.
Apple needs a kick up the but to pay attention to their computer line and less on the iPhone. I hope they pay attention to this gaping hole in their lineup. I wouldn't personally buy this machine but if money was tighter it would become an option.
This whole "full experience" BS is quite sad.
Apple needs a kick up the but to pay attention to their computer line and less on the iPhone. I hope they pay attention to this gaping hole in their lineup. I wouldn't personally buy this machine but if money was tighter it would become an option.
This whole "full experience" BS is quite sad.
The chip you are talking about is a "TPM" that chip is in Macbooks, Macbook Pro's, iMac's and Mac Mini's Not Mac Pro's that was one of the things that allowed this to happen.
Repairs?
And what do you do if you have trouble with it? Apple support is certainly not going to help you. You would be stuck with an unstable machine that might die with the next patch fix from Apple. It will only appeal to hackers since the "normal" users won't buy without support.
And what do you do if you have trouble with it? Apple support is certainly not going to help you. You would be stuck with an unstable machine that might die with the next patch fix from Apple. It will only appeal to hackers since the "normal" users won't buy without support.
Actually, the only hardware that can be called "Leopard-compatible" would be Apple hardware. The use of the name Leopard at the very least would surely bring about some trademark/brand confusion suit?
Can you people please stop declaring things illegal just because some company wants them to be?
There is _no law_ saying that it is illegal to run Mac OS X on a computer without an Apple logo.
You are talking about contract terms, or rather about terms dictated by a software company in an agreement you didn't see before buying the product and never signed.
Plus the terms in question are likely not enforceable in the US and in contradiction of copyright laws in the EU.
Buying a copy of Mac OS X and doing with it whatever you want while not distributing copies (because copyright law forbids that) is NOT illegal.
I think I will buy this machine.
Just so you all know, the E6x00 chips are the only ones in the Intel Core 2 Duo E series that support Intel's Hardware Virtualization (i.e. the chip in the OpenMac doesn't do hardware virtualization and also has 2MB L2 cache, not the 4MB of the Mac Mini)
This maxim should be directed at Apple owners, not at clone purchasers. Those hackint0shes just work, because those l33t h4x0Rs tweak and test and publish bug reports before they release. Wish the same were true of Apple's own products.
Case in point, I downloaded the 8600GT driver update from Software Update for my MBP. Front Row no longer works and this update appears to be the main suspect according to the Apple.com discussion boards. No fix seems to be in the offing.
My fault for trusting Apple, even though my MBP is not a poor man's welfare laptop full of nasty cheap PC parts. Indeed, it comprises premium computer components, like all Apple computers and I know this to be true because Applemojo said so; he knows everything and he would never lie to us.
I was good. I didn't pirate OSX, I obeyed the EULA and I paid for my premium-built MBP with real money. How could Apple deceive me so?
Just what I want
A computer like this is just what I need. I've been using Macs for 10 years but am continually frustrated by the lack of upgradability. Sure if you can afford a Mac Pro your fine but they are really expensive. Everything else in the product line seems to have been designed to be as un-upgradeable as possible. I currently have a Mac Mini; great little box but its even hard to upgrade the RAM let alone anything else. Something like an open mac woudl mean I could add a decent graphics card a full speed hard drive and still have change over. In other words I could have what any PC uaser expects. We Mac users put up with this duff deal from Apple. The OS is great but Apple needs a rocket up its bottom.
A computer like this is just what I need. I've been using Macs for 10 years but am continually frustrated by the lack of upgradability. Sure if you can afford a Mac Pro your fine but they are really expensive. Everything else in the product line seems to have been designed to be as un-upgradeable as possible. I currently have a Mac Mini; great little box but its even hard to upgrade the RAM let alone anything else. Something like an open mac woudl mean I could add a decent graphics card a full speed hard drive and still have change over. In other words I could have what any PC uaser expects. We Mac users put up with this duff deal from Apple. The OS is great but Apple needs a rocket up its bottom.
This is what happens when you only update the desktop computers in your product line every 40 weeks Mr. Jobs. How can someone so smart, be so dumb? It's time to scrap the iMac and offer something like this. Let the people upgrade since you won't.