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'OpenMac' Promises $399 Headless Mac... But Not From Apple
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Huh? People who are considered wealthy are generally wealthy because they don't over spend on things when it's not required. It's not about affordability, but about value. Right now none of the Apple desktop lines have any value to me personally.
are you seriously blind? this is the 2nd or 3rd post i've read where people say "apple can't make them not sell it just cause it can run leopard!!" the point is, they are advertising it as a leopard-running computer. pre-installed. this is illegal, against the EULA. It falls into the same category as installing vista on 3 computers when its licensed for one.
pay attention. read.
pay attention. read.
The Psystar site is down. We can only assume that Apple Legal has swooped in during the night and burned the server rack in some ritualistic Jobs-worship. (I kid, but it could happen.) Time to go build our own OSx86 boxes.
Exactly! I'd much rather save up for a MP that will work (+AC), than pay any amount for something that may or may not continue to play nice with OSX. What sort of support are they going to offer if I upgrade it, and it no longer works with OSX? How much servicing are they prepared to do for their customers who want it to behave like a Mac?
How hard will it be for Apple to create updates that render these software patches unstable or ineffective? The main reason I favor OSX is because I don't want to spend hours tweaking my computer to make it function properly. I can understand the appeal, but I think this option will lead to a lot of angry people.
Easy there, G.I. Joe. Are you going to unleash your Portable Artillery on everyone?
I'm extremely embarrassed for the Mac community after seeing most of the responses in this thread.
Apple isn't a cause, or something that needs to be "supported". They're a profit-making enterprise like any other business. They do a particularly poor job of lowering prices when their hardware grows outdated, and having a modular computer design.
Both things make it more profitable for the company; they make a considerable amount of money off a Mac Mini right now considering how cheap the components are, and not having a modular design promotes the idea of a computer as something that has to be completely replaced every two to three years, which generates more revenue than just a motherboard + CPU upgrade.
It's amazing to me how inane this discussion could be, that Apple is considered a cause that needs to be supported. They have quite literally BILLIONS of dollars in the bank, if I want to buy a mini right now, I'm not going to spend my hard-earned money to prop up their apparent charity cause.
Apple isn't a cause, or something that needs to be "supported". They're a profit-making enterprise like any other business. They do a particularly poor job of lowering prices when their hardware grows outdated, and having a modular computer design.
Both things make it more profitable for the company; they make a considerable amount of money off a Mac Mini right now considering how cheap the components are, and not having a modular design promotes the idea of a computer as something that has to be completely replaced every two to three years, which generates more revenue than just a motherboard + CPU upgrade.
It's amazing to me how inane this discussion could be, that Apple is considered a cause that needs to be supported. They have quite literally BILLIONS of dollars in the bank, if I want to buy a mini right now, I'm not going to spend my hard-earned money to prop up their apparent charity cause.
Do you have any common sense whatsoever? I ask because this post ^ proves that you do not, so I just wanted your take on it.
To HOPE that competition for Apple fails, is a miserably unhinged perspective.
You don't NEED to upgrade your computer OS. This is hardly Dell, people who are buying this will know what they're getting themselves into, and actually it is pretty poor of the company to misrepresent it like this is something that will be OK, but still, its hardly worth spending thousands of dollars more on a Mac Pro.
Soon to be ClosedMac, courtesy of Apple!!!
I really hope Apple puts and end to this quickly. If you don't like the rules or limitations Apple puts on their products, buy something else. But, don't think that it's ok to break the law to achieve the end result YOU desire.
As for the arguments that Macs are too expensive, think again. Any semi-professional can easily afford a Mac. The problem isn't that Macs are too expensive, rather that some people want to spend their money in other ways and have some distorted belief that computers are a commodity and should be free. These are thee same people that pirate all their songs and movies and refuse to ever buy a piece of software. I know plenty myself--the ones always asking for a copy of Leopard or the latest software.
If anything is too expensive it's the software. Load a computer with CS3, Final Cut Studio, etc and you've probably invested more in software than hardware.
STOP COMPLAINING. STOP WHINING. GET A JOB, BUDGET YOUR EXPENSES AND PAY FOR YOUR HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE!!!
I really hope Apple puts and end to this quickly. If you don't like the rules or limitations Apple puts on their products, buy something else. But, don't think that it's ok to break the law to achieve the end result YOU desire.
As for the arguments that Macs are too expensive, think again. Any semi-professional can easily afford a Mac. The problem isn't that Macs are too expensive, rather that some people want to spend their money in other ways and have some distorted belief that computers are a commodity and should be free. These are thee same people that pirate all their songs and movies and refuse to ever buy a piece of software. I know plenty myself--the ones always asking for a copy of Leopard or the latest software.
If anything is too expensive it's the software. Load a computer with CS3, Final Cut Studio, etc and you've probably invested more in software than hardware.
STOP COMPLAINING. STOP WHINING. GET A JOB, BUDGET YOUR EXPENSES AND PAY FOR YOUR HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE!!!
Thats not agressive, dont know what your getting at there.
Got your sexes mixed up there.
Apple needs competition in the hardware dept., the fiasco with MBP and airport drop-outs are a prime example.It just works on XP, but 10.4/.5 drop outs and not even a peep from Apple despite posts/bug reports.I would not doubt that an OEM laptop with a " Modded" oSX would probably work 
They did everything right except they offered Leopard pre-installed.
Sad, really, because now they're gonna be taken down. If only they had "hinted" at Leopard compatibility, but left it up to the consumer to break the EULA... :::sigh:::
Sad, really, because now they're gonna be taken down. If only they had "hinted" at Leopard compatibility, but left it up to the consumer to break the EULA... :::sigh:::
Aren't we a fickle bunch?
"The new Mac costs HOW much? Why, I could buy a PC from Dell or build my own from parts for far less! Apple charges far too much of a premium for commodity product!"
"What? Another company is making cheaper Macs? I hope they fail! I hope Apple shuts them down! Nothing but 100% genuine Apple for me! Apple stuff is worth the premium cost!"
Apple bought NeXT from SJ for the OS.
The NeXT OS is the foundation for Mac OS X.
SJ introduced iMac which saved Apple's bacon.
SJ eliminated the confusing array of sub-par products in Apple's lineup.
SJ squashed PPC and brought about Intel Macs (capable of running Windows).
SJ brought us iTunes.
SJ brought us the iPod.
SJ brought us the iPhone.
The short equation would be: Mac OS X = SJ =
Oh, and Apple got $$$. Incidentally, so did professionals using Apple hardware and wise investors in AAPL.
I've read both of your responses, and I'm confused. You're upset with the Mac Community, yet you criticize responses that come off as supportive of Apple?
If updating an OS was unnecessary, than why do literally all OS's have updates? Security fixes, compatibility issues with hardware and commonly used software, such as Adobe products, etc. And those are merely 2 reasons why updating is necessary. I didn't mention Dell, nor draw any comparisons.
You may know what you're getting into, but you don't speak for everyone who may want an alternative Mac, and can't afford the Apple offerings that support their workflow. What I feel is worth my hard earned dollars may not be what you consider worthy. The flaw in both of your responses is that you assume everyone thinks like you, and has the same needs as you. I seem to recall a certain motto... What was it... Oh yeah! Think Different.
i hope that apple sues the makers of this product.. and makes them not able to make or sell anymore
I don't think I'd risk future problems with this machine. I like to update the OS right along with what Apple releases.
Once you start (necessarily) upgrading, these guys are basically asking for Apple-sized margins, too. So, that's pretty funny.
The big plus is the headless but also upgradeable nature of the thing, especially speaking of the graphics card. It's pretty much exactly what I want, but from Apple.
Loved that "did Steve Jobs have anything to do with OS X" question. Pretty much invalidated anything that poster had to say about the history of Apple except for his/her tiny personal experience.
Things aren't perfect, but Steve has done this twice now. He took a niche company let it get purchased by a bigger well known name company and virtually took it over. Worked with NextSTEP being bought by Apple and at least in the animation department, Pixar and Disney. (With Steve as the central instigator of change at Apple, and John Lasseter as the central instigator of change at Disney Animation.)
Steve Jobs may be a "jerk" and a bit off-kilter, but has been incredibly influential to the entire computer industry. Appleinsider did some nice historical summaries of software origins and it's amazing how influential NextSTEP was to Microsoft products and tech (and the Web itself.)
Just sayin'
Once you start (necessarily) upgrading, these guys are basically asking for Apple-sized margins, too. So, that's pretty funny.
The big plus is the headless but also upgradeable nature of the thing, especially speaking of the graphics card. It's pretty much exactly what I want, but from Apple.
Loved that "did Steve Jobs have anything to do with OS X" question. Pretty much invalidated anything that poster had to say about the history of Apple except for his/her tiny personal experience.
Things aren't perfect, but Steve has done this twice now. He took a niche company let it get purchased by a bigger well known name company and virtually took it over. Worked with NextSTEP being bought by Apple and at least in the animation department, Pixar and Disney. (With Steve as the central instigator of change at Apple, and John Lasseter as the central instigator of change at Disney Animation.)
Steve Jobs may be a "jerk" and a bit off-kilter, but has been incredibly influential to the entire computer industry. Appleinsider did some nice historical summaries of software origins and it's amazing how influential NextSTEP was to Microsoft products and tech (and the Web itself.)
Just sayin'