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PC Users cashing in to bash in on the Mac community?

In fairness I think the bashing is mostly of Apple, not the community. There's a big difference.

Apple are just another company like Microsoft. Now, they go about things slightly differently but there isn't a huge difference here.

Is there a Microsoft community I wonder?
 
My apologies if I seem gratuitously mean, but… are you serious?

Apple, Inc. is no different from any other multinational corporation…

Don't offer apologies to these people. Comments like that are good thing to keep track of, because those are people YOU don't ever, ever ever want an opinion from on anything.

Anyone who has any special affinity for a multinational like Apple and thinks ANYTHING BUT what has apple done for me lately, is totally nuts.

Thats it. Nuts.
 
Wow, the swarm of low post, recently registered users is swarming in on this thread.

PC Users cashing in to bash in on the Mac community? :eek::eek::eek:

How surprising....

Its always a refreshing experience to take a look at what Mac users have to say about anything that's non-Mac. ;)
 
never go wrong with a real genuine Mac.:cool: :apple:

But what if Apple simply does not make the computer yo want? I'd go as far as to say MOST people who want a desktop Mac would prefer a machione like the Openmac to anything Apple sells cuttently. If you read the forums a sun $1K midsize tower that has upgradable parts is wht everyone wants. This guys simply suplied it.
 
In fairness I think the bashing is mostly of Apple, not the community. There's a big difference.

Apple are just another company like Microsoft. Now, they go about things slightly differently but there isn't a huge difference here.

Is there a Microsoft community I wonder?

There's a lot of Microsoft community. Unlike some of the Mac users, most of the PC users are a lot more sensible.

But you can always find a M$ hothead now and then... guaranteed hilarious.
 
I was thinking to do that, until the website got shut down. If I don't like OSX, I can always revert back to Linux or Windows. If I buy an Apple, and if I don't like OSX...

...I'm screwed on BOTH hardware AND software. Talk about major ripoff....:rolleyes:

Why would you buy an Apple if you don't like OSX? Go to a brick and mortar store and test it before dropping the dough. And if you can't, and do buy an Apple, and hate OSX, there is this little thing called returning. Sure you'll take a 10% restocking hit, but that's not screwed, that's just the cost of not getting out there and trying it out before committing.
 
I really like the idea. Apple could be forced to lower their prices and/or release a similar product.

This WILL get tested in court.

However, I believe this particular model does have problems.

Honestly, I like my Macbook because of both the OS and the design. However, a cheaper computer with the Apple OS is worth it. Apple needs to fix some things like upgradeability and integrated graphics, and this may be the way.

I do think they messed up by putting Mac in the name of the computer and by including Leopard. Apple will have a far easier time stomping them out.
 
Translated: I simply like to purchase extremely overpriced products that can be had for fractions of its price. No other one.
Translated: I simply prefer to purchase a computer from a company who has hand-selected the hardware and deliberately programed the software to work near perfectly with it. I simply prefer to purchase a computer that doesn't look like a plain black box, have 3 miles of cables spewing from its backside, exude the brightness of a lighthouse in neon lights, and drops faster in resale value than a gallon of milk with two days left until expiration. No one other.
 
I really like the idea. Apple could be forced to lower their prices and/or release a similar product.

This WILL get tested in court.

TBH Apple will just go after the name, as trademark abuse. That is a totally open and shut winnable case.
 
What do you mean by Mac OS X in that equation?

You do understand that OSX is a branch of BSD, Unix, which means OSX isn't totally apple's work. maybe not even half (you can provide me data, if you have, to show otherwise) of the codes?

Mac OS X brought UNIX to the masses through its GUI.
Would you prefer to just have UNIX and Terminal?
 
Why would you buy an Apple if you don't like OSX? Go to a brick and mortar store and test it before dropping the dough. And if you can't, and do buy an Apple, and hate OSX, there is this little thing called returning. Sure you'll take a 10% restocking hit, but that's not screwed, that's just the cost of not getting out there and trying it out before committing.

Humm... so getting 2x priced hardware, and only get 90% of them back is not called screwed.... :rolleyes:
 
I think this sums up what is going to happen to the 'OpenMac':

steve-jobs-fries-clones.jpg


http://gizmodo.com/379362/psystar-sells-mac-clone-becomes-son-of-daystar
 
Thank you for making a sensible statement. And to aid your point, some of the Mac users felt delighted, overjoyed, and even believed they got a steal when they get screwed so much on hardware. On average Mac users get screwed about 2x the price on hardware, up to 4x~5x on MacPros.

I really don't understand what is this "elitist" mentality flowing around here. Face it. Macintosh is just a platform, just like PCs. OS X is just an operating system, just like Windows. Each has its own advantages and disadvantages, with no clear winner.

You want to buy a computer that works out of the box? Buy a Dell. You want to buy a computer that works out of the box, AND feel delighted to get screwed on hardware? Buy an Apple.

I'm a Mac Pro owner who fully supports those who want to build Hackintosh machines, and can see the appeal for a lot of people. That said, I challenge you to put together a machine with the same components that make a Mac Pro at Dell.com or any other website, and even get it 20% cheaper, let alone 4-5 times cheaper. The Mac Pro is actually a very good price for what you get - dual quad core xeons and that kind of memory don't come cheap.

My apologies if I seem gratuitously mean, but… are you serious?

Apple, Inc. is no different from any other multinational corporation…

Sadly, yes, he is serious. One needs look no further than this thread if you want to see how utterly brainwashed people become through Apple's marketing. They've confused a fortune 500 company with a close friendship. :rolleyes:

I was thinking to do that, until the website got shut down. If I don't like OSX, I can always revert back to Linux or Windows. If I buy an Apple, and if I don't like OSX...

...I'm screwed on BOTH hardware AND software. Talk about major ripoff....:rolleyes:

Hey - with modern Macs, if you don't like OSX (trust me, you will) you can still install Windows or Linux. But yes, at that point it really makes no sense to pay so much for hardware.

Honestly, putting together your own Hackintosh isn't difficult at all these days. I think most of the people protesting this new machine are old timers who don't really get what the shift to Intel means - there is nothing special, magical, or even particularly proprietary in Macs. It's just a Dell/HP/Lenovo/whatever guts in a pretty box.
 
But what if Apple simply does not make the computer yo want? I'd go as far as to say MOST people who want a desktop Mac would prefer a machione like the Openmac to anything Apple sells cuttently. If you read the forums a sun $1K midsize tower that has upgradable parts is wht everyone wants. This guys simply suplied it.

More like $1299-1699. Apple never replaced the El-Capitian G3/4 series, they just substituted machines that were much larger, more powerful, and increasingly more expensive.
 
It should also be mentioned that as far as service and repair goes its not like a Hackintosh is going to leave you high and dry when something breaks. Granted you'll have to replace the parts yourself but most decent hardware comes with warranties that span 2 or more years.

I realize its still not as good as Applecare and certainly not as easy but its not like you're playing russian roulette with this hardware either.
 
There's a lot of people out there who either can't afford anything else (as far as Macs go) or don't want a laptop, an all-in-one or a gigantic Mac Pro. And an Xserve under my desk would just look silly. ;)

but...but...I like my Xserve under my desk, it keeps my feet warm.;)(more to the fact, I have no other place to put it)

On the subject at hand, Apple will at least send out the lawyers to make the company pull any mention of Mac or OSX. It's not illegal to sell a hackintosh friendly systems, but to use the Mac name and offer OSX will spur Apple to act. At least to protect their branding. If other companies were able to sell systems under the Mac brand, you would eventually have some idiot try and take one to a Genius bar since that is the place to take Mac's to be fixed.
 
I was thinking to do that, until the website got shut down. If I don't like OSX, I can always revert back to Linux or Windows. If I buy an Apple, and if I don't like OSX...

...I'm screwed on BOTH hardware AND software. Talk about major ripoff....

A mac can easily run Windows or Linux, not a very valid point your making there.
 
I really hope Apple puts and end to this quickly. If you don't like the rules or limitations Apple puts on their products, buy something else. But, don't think that it's ok to break the law to achieve the end result YOU desire.

Breaking EULA isn't illegal at it has been stated hundreds of times already on this thread. It only absolves Apple from supporting your copy of the software.

As for the arguments that Macs are too expensive, think again. Any semi-professional can easily afford a Mac. The problem isn't that Macs are too expensive, rather that some people want to spend their money in other ways and have some distorted belief that computers are a commodity and should be free. These are thee same people that pirate all their songs and movies and refuse to ever buy a piece of software. I know plenty myself--the ones always asking for a copy of Leopard or the latest software.

Hello, Reality Distortion Field, nice to meet you.

If you think Apple's computers are reasonably priced, you've obviously never bought 3rd-party hardware components before. In fact, you can even buy the exact same components Apple uses in its computers for less than half the price - RETAIL - so you know Apple is getting them even cheaper. (The only hardware exception is the motherboard, but you can get those from Intel if you want guaranteed quality.) Tack on software and you're still well below the price of Apple's products. Apple is easily sweeping up 50% profit margins on their units, which is unheard of in the PC industry.

People who go the hackintosh route aren't theives. They just don't want to be ripped off. They value function over form. They want a Mac with decent graphics for under $3000. As many computer users exist, there are that many different computing needs. There is no way Apple can meet the different needs of all these users. Does that deem them unworthy to use OS X?

People who take the matter into their own hands and build hackintoshes value their needs so passionately that they're willing to put in a little extra work to have a computer that will do just what they need and not allow themselves to be funneled into a tiny subset of three computing characteristics: MacMini, iMac and MacPro. There are certainly more types of users than three, don't you agree?

STOP COMPLAINING. STOP WHINING. GET A JOB, BUDGET YOUR EXPENSES AND PAY FOR YOUR HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE!!!

I know a lot of very hard-working people who can't afford a new computer every two to three years. I am one of them. I recently graduated from college so I'm new to the workforce. My wife is still in college. We recently got married and moved into a fairly inexpensive apartment. Our monthly expenses include high-speed internet and basic phone. We "treat ourselves" to Chipotle once a week, otherwise we cook our food at home. Still, we're struggling to pay the bills. Even when she graduates and finds a job (as a teacher) there will be several years of difficulty paying bills until the student loans are paid off.

Meanwhile, I'm using a SIX YEAR-OLD iMac for Garage Band. Yes, for Garage Band. Sure, I have to lock every track before I can play anything back, but it still operates. I've been saving every dollar I get in birthday cards and Christmas cards and this year I *might* be able to afford a new MacMini. Or, I could buy a few new components for my home-built PC, a copy of Leopard (I still have an older copy of iLife I can use) and have a more-powerful, longer-lasting computer for the same price.

I guess since I can't afford the eye-candied, under-powered Steve Jobs-sanctioned Mac, I'm a jobless, slacker, who doesn't know how to budget his money, now, doesn't it?

-Clive
 
I simply prefer to purchase a computer from a company who has hand-selected the hardware and deliberately programed the software to work near perfectly with it.

lol no, same stuff on the inside, you're paying extra for that shiny plastic and the logo.

I simply prefer to purchase a computer that doesn't look like a plain black box, have 3 miles of cables spewing from its backside, exude the brightness of a lighthouse in neon lights

There are a wide variety of cases available, I saw a computer once that was built into a populated aquarium.

and drops faster in resale value than a gallon of milk with two days left until expiration. No one other.

With the retards on ebay these days?
 
Mac OS X brought UNIX to the masses through its GUI.
Would you prefer to just have UNIX and Terminal?
I would like you to not equal SJ to Mac OSX, since without UNIX (which has little, if anything to do with SJ), you won't have Mac OSX in the first place.

Your exaggeration of SJ's role in OSX is inaccurate and misleading, give readers false impression about the origin and structure of OSX.

I have no problem with admitting SJ's foresight in 1990s when he adopting UNIX as the foundation of possible future OS. But please be realistic and accurate.
 
On average Mac users get screwed about 2x the price on hardware, up to 4x~5x on MacPros.

Not true at all. Mac Pros (mid model) are competitively priced. (as long as you don't buy more RAM, disk, better graphics etc.).
 
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