You've not heard all the issues that Apple have had recently with their hardware and software, have you? They've gone down hill in production quality in the past few years, but up massively in numbers sold.
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'OpenMac' Promises $399 Headless Mac... But Not From Apple
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You've not heard all the issues that Apple have had recently with their hardware and software, have you? They've gone down hill in production quality in the past few years, but up massively in numbers sold.
i believe what OpenMac is trying to accomplish is to show consumers and fan boys how much apple's premium is on their lack luster consumer hardware... it's always been like that, but it's become more obvious since the intel switch a few years ago. it's like when airline's offer $1 seat sales that eventually add up to well over $100 each way (in canada at least) because of tax and services...
the question is: is that large mac premium acceptable on the count of the aesthetics and OS X experience?
the question is: is that large mac premium acceptable on the count of the aesthetics and OS X experience?
Thank you for picking up on what has be one of the most vile things I've read on macrumors. Honestly, two people before you quoted that very paragraph and missed/ignored that loathsome comment.
Imagine, poor people trying to get in on the Mac experience. The horror. They'd ruin it for the rest of the superior Apple master race.
Seriously, did I miss the latest One Mac Per Poor Person (OMPPP)?
Poor people? Wanting in on the Mac experience? That's what Dell's are for.
Call BMW and ask them if they have a new poor person model coming out... They'll transfer you to Kia.
What a joke.
Since sales numbers are going up in leaps and bounds, an increasing number of people obviously think so...
I wonder how the copies of OS X sold by Psystar are legitimately licensed and purchased from Apple. I was unaware that Apple sold full retail disks, but only upgrade disks.
As for all this legal talk about how legal or not this is, I think it's really obvious. Selling the hardware as it is is, is completely legal. Calling it the OpenMac is a trademark infringement, and Apple will most definitely not be happy about that. Selling it pre-installed with leopard will be illegal. It could be classed as software piracy, since you can't obtain full retail or OEM copies of OS X. Or it could be classed as breaking the license/agreement, which may or may not be a legal binding, but Psystar will be responsible for its actions, and not the 'end user' or the purchaser of the product.
No, no sarcasm whatsoever. I'm merely saying that the term "apple-labeled" is incredibly ambiguous and a giant loophole. You could, for example, take a picture of a regular old apple (as in, granny smith), print it on a label and put it on your computer. Again, this would satisfy the "apple-labeled" requirement, and would not infringe on anyones trademark or intellectual property. That being said, you would need to do this on a personal level; if you were a company doing it and reselling the computers with OS X, then you would indeed be in violation of Apple's trademark.
Their shipping seems wrong. I was looking to see if they shipped to the UK or not. This is what I got:
$4 to ship to worldwide?
Or pay $300+ ??
Let me just add there is no way I would buy this without knowing what motherboard it runs. How many slots does it have? PCI or PCIe? I have a pile of cards left over from my PC days, and I'd like to know the exact specs before buying any tower / mini tower.
I suspect they won't give the mobo name as then there's nothing to stop people just buying their own mobo and making a clone of a clone
$4 to ship to worldwide?
Or pay $300+ ??
Let me just add there is no way I would buy this without knowing what motherboard it runs. How many slots does it have? PCI or PCIe? I have a pile of cards left over from my PC days, and I'd like to know the exact specs before buying any tower / mini tower.
I suspect they won't give the mobo name as then there's nothing to stop people just buying their own mobo and making a clone of a clone
Did you know what motherboard your last Mac ran on before you bought it? As for cards, I've never used one in my life, and I suspect very few other Mac users have either.
No. Its not that easy. A lot of people always say "if something is in an agreement, its like law". A few examples from Germany:
-Microsoft license terms wants to make sure that end users always have to buy expensive "box" versions. Cheaper "system builder" versions may not be solt to end users without a new PC. Microsoft failed to enforce this in courts.
- Microsoft license terms do not allow you to "transfer" a OEM license to another computer (for example: sell your used computer with an empty hard drive, use your license on a new device). MS also failed to enforce this in courts.
- MS terms did not allow system vendors to sell a PC with an OEM licensed Windows when it is preinstalled together with another operating system (Linux) in a user visible dual boot configuration. MS failed to enforce this in courts.
- Several ISPs had terms for a flatrate that allowed them to cancel the agreement within one month (if the user caused too much traffic etc.) but they allowed the user only to cancel after 12 or 24 monts. They all failed to enforce this in courts.
I don't know what the judge will say about the term "only on an apple branded computer". Its a complex issue. It could be legal in one country but illegal in another.
Where do you live ? russia ?
BMW and Mercedes, both companies released also cars for the average consumers !!!
Nobody wants a mac for poor people....they want a mac for average people and many other mac users are just sick of the hardware update ****.
Their shipping seems wrong. I was looking to see if they shipped to the UK or not. This is what I got:
$4 to ship to worldwide?
Or pay $300+ ??
Let me just add there is no way I would buy this without knowing what motherboard it runs. How many slots does it have? PCI or PCIe? I have a pile of cards left over from my PC days, and I'd like to know the exact specs before buying any tower / mini tower.
I suspect they won't give the mobo name as then there's nothing to stop people just buying their own mobo and making a clone of a clone
Something else that I would have to dig back into, would be how they are shipping and with what authorization.
When I was in the banking industry, we shipped processing servers internationally and had to have a lot of paper work lined up to export high level encryption, which at the time was the equivalent to any standard SSL implementation today.
For personal shipping, things are much easier. But for their small business this might be an interesting hurdle if the point is even valid any more.
no the disks available are Upgrade only disks, meaning you are supposed to have OS X already installed (and Licensed). I suppose again this comes down to SLA/EULA...
You got a very good point there.
Anyway, I shall repeat on my previous post a bit, Apple has been selling overpriced hardwares even before they switch to Intel so why would they drop the price?
Anyway like some poster said, a PC which has an OS X wont make you feel like using OS X, good luck spending $400 and in the end you will feel something missing. I give u 2 thumbs up
.Oh right, a note to everyone, if you have done Hackintosh before and read through forums, some people actually bought a Mac after using Hackintosh because they find its much better and worth it then running a OS X on a PC.
From the way I see it, this is like an attempt to make normal people who are not computer literate to think that OpenMac is the only PC out there that can run Mac OS X whereas in truth, their 5 years old PC (mine is 6) can run OS X Tiger or Leopard (if your motherboard is SSE3). Its a cheap way into cheating consumers. Bad!!!!
Oh and take note that these fixes which they claim usually can be obtained free from some websites, you just must do some digging. Its a disgrace to free or open-source softwares cause its like selling other peoples work.
Well, really. Rarely have I heard so many talking backsides.That's not right & skunk don't be so mean