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Brave/Opera for me, just remove the "junk" and its a great browser imo, I couldn't give 2 hoots if its from China, they know I'm an Mi5 spy, but still here........
 
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For what reason would you use Opera? Just use FireFox or Brave if you want Chromium browser. better than this closed source Chinese software.

Some websites/web apps don't play nice with Safari & require a Chrome based browser.

Safari isn't enough for many of us, so it pays to have something like Chrome/Edge/Brave installed unless you enjoy not being able to do your work properly.

Which website are those, I don't really have problem with Safari but I keep hearing it doesnt work on a lot of sites
 
For what reason would you use Opera? Just use FireFox or Brave if you want Chromium browser. better than this closed source Chinese software.

The built in VPN is a good feature for work. And Brave puts on a good show but there is nothing to suggest they really care about privacy. On Opera you have DNS over HTTPS, easy TOR setup, built in ad blocker, built in cookies accepter or rejector, a built in VPN, and with one flick in the settings there is no analytics being sent off to Mixpanel. Brave is rather a unknown and seem to want to push their own ads into the browser. If I didn't want Chrome or Opera I would use Edge(In full knowledge that Edge collects data that could be personally identifiable).
 
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For what reason would you use Opera? Just use FireFox or Brave if you want Chromium browser. better than this closed source Chinese software.



Which website are those, I don't really have problem with Safari but I keep hearing it doesnt work on a lot of sites
Qatar Airlines I think and a couple of European carriers.

Can't remember the specific concert venues, but there are various that I have used that don't play nice with Safari. It just woudn't render the seat selection graphic.
 
Tried it out on my personal machine (already on work machine for work compliance). It is lightning fast and very light on recourses, but still doesn't integrate with keychain for passwords(same issue with Edge, and Chrome.).
 
Seems like poorly coded websites and adverts is what’s slowing down the browsing experience. Safari has been speedy on both M1 and A chips, not sure what people are complaint about.
 
The built in VPN is a good feature for work. And Brave puts on a good show but there is nothing to suggest they really care about privacy. On Opera you have DNS over HTTPS, easy TOR setup, built in ad blocker, built in cookies accepter or rejector, a built in VPN, and with one flick in the settings there is no analytics being sent off to Mixpanel. Brave is rather a unknown and seem to want to push their own ads into the browser. If I didn't want Chrome or Opera I would use Edge(In full knowledge that Edge collects data that could be personally identifiable).
If you value your privacy use a paid VPN service with no-log policy, these built-in browser ones cannot be too sure as it has to pay the bills to offer it for free and reality is you are paying for it by being the product.

Safari for banking, Start Page and DDG for web search, etc.
 
Qatar Airlines I think and a couple of European carriers.

Can't remember the specific concert venues, but there are various that I have used that don't play nice with Safari. It just woudn't render the seat selection graphic.
I tried seat selection on Qatar airlines on my iPad with Safari browsers and no problems here. Some settings might be wrong on your device.
 
I just don’t get why any regular Mac owner would shop for a different browser. If you’re a dev I understand you need to check compatibility, otherwise, really, it’s that important to you?
The main issue is inept and/or lazy developers coding sites specifically to Chromium instead of being able to work with all browsers (like they should). So some user types wind up having to keep a Chromium based browser in their proverbial back pocket for those cases.
 
Agreed, I have six browsers installed. Safari for regular use, Brave for Google docs and other things that need a Chrome base (multiple personas and privacy features also work well), Chrome for when Brave doesn't work and I don't mind the resource hogging/tracking, Edge to connect to a company system that is highly unstable, Firefox for some sites that need Mozilla compatibility or are highly flaky (so I don't crash one of the browsers I actually need), ...

I've used Opera in the past - seemed quite clean/fast and it has an IoS version

Six here as well. But no Edge. Tor is my sixth.

. . .I used Chrome until 5-6 years ago . . .
I still believe Firefox is the best . . .
. . . I switched fo safari . . .
With regards to Opera . . .
Finally I'm testing Edge . . .
I might go back to firefox though.

Everybody here is talking about the same tired old browsers!

I'm still trying to figure out what niche is right for Tor.
 
Brave/Opera for me, just remove the "junk" and its a great browser imo, I couldn't give 2 hoots if its from China, they know I'm an Mi5 spy, but still here........
What is the "junk" I should be removing/disabling in Brave? I am a tab-junkie and eventually my M1 slows down when some rando task takes over. When this happens, I do a force-quit of Brave and restart, and hit the Reload previous button. Seems most stuff doesn't open till I return to the window. I'd prefer not to live this way.

Any threads on how to optimize your browser?
 
If you value your privacy use a paid VPN service with no-log policy, these built-in browser ones cannot be too sure as it has to pay the bills to offer it for free and reality is you are paying for it by being the product.

Safari for banking, Start Page and DDG for web search, etc.
Umm; no. A VPN is not for privacy, it is to get around geofences or in my case to test how a site works and that the AWS accelerator punts users to the correct zone. A paid VPN is just deliberately giving a third party company everything I do so they can log it.
 
What is the "junk" I should be removing/disabling in Brave? I am a tab-junkie and eventually my M1 slows down when some rando task takes over. When this happens, I do a force-quit of Brave and restart, and hit the Reload previous button. Seems most stuff doesn't open till I return to the window. I'd prefer not to live this way.

Any threads on how to optimize your browser?

When you install it first time it has alot of "bloaty" rubbish on there (wallpapers, tiles etc) which I turn off/remove. Install Adblocker and Disable youtube autoplay. I don't have more than 5 or 6 tabs open, not sure why people do. My M1 has 16GB ram so feels alot snappier since its gone to Version:75.0.3969.149 (arm64)
 
Still using Textmate 2 myself, it is much quicker than VSCode and of course it is native.
ST4 , i just got the beta a few days ago. It will release the silicon version soon... very. *cough* it exists *cough*

It is AMAZINGLY fast. ST4 is what textmate 1 was to mac users, decades ago... a game changer.
 
Umm; no. A VPN is not for privacy, it is to get around geofences or in my case to test how a site works and that the AWS accelerator punts users to the correct zone. A paid VPN is just deliberately giving a third party company everything I do so they can log it.
It can be used for both geo-fences and privacy. VPN create a secure and encrypted connection and depending on the protocol some are better than others. Some company have a strict “no log” policy others and especially free options (other than ProtonVPN) that I am aware of log activity and make no promise. Be careful when using any free option provided. For testing purposes as you mentioned a free VPN will do the job. Depends what ones intent and purpose is.
 
I gave Opera a go; wow it’s really, really fast.

I’m using the workspace function built into the browser to manage the ridiculous amount of tabs I need access to for work. I’m kinda blown away at just how many simultaneous open tabs it’s able to run and not turn this 2019 MacBook Pro into a slow moving furnace.

I’ve been using the GX version as my gaming browser for about a year and been really pleased with it (I play Eve Online, needs lots of Google Sheets to play), Safari is still my personal browser of choice but I think Opera just bumped Edge for my work browser. Opera was able to do the same workload and use 1GB less RAM than Edge (Total usage was about 13GB compared to 14GB with Edge). I didn’t test it with Safari, I need to be able to have different pinned tabs on each window (across ~10 windows) and Safari just can’t do that.

I had a brief look at Vivaldi, I really like their history and tab customisations but it was lacking built in workspace functionality and I didn’t want to have to spend all weekend trying to find the least janky extension to fill that gap.
 
Umm; no. A VPN is not for privacy, it is to get around geofences or in my case to test how a site works and that the AWS accelerator punts users to the correct zone. A paid VPN is just deliberately giving a third party company everything I do so they can log it.
Not so, a VPN encrypts your data to and from your browser effectively making it impossible for your ISP (at least) to see/read your activity. Since US Congress made it legal for ISP's to sell on your browsing records to third party advertisers a VPN is an almost essential privacy tool, at least in the USA.
 
I play around with Opera occasionally just to use something different, but have been annoyed the past ~9 months or so by the fact that it opens in full screen quite often even though I rarely use it as such (and never close Opera while in full screen the few times I do). I have to delete com.operasoftware.Opera.savedState from ~Library and relaunch to get it to open as normal. Cannot figure out why this is happening.
 
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