This kind of stuff will continue until Google's Andriod becomes wide spread. Apple has changed policy in the past due to direct competition. One example is the 30 day free download evaluation of Aperture. What other Apple pro apps can you download and try for free? Which other Apple pro apps have a direct competitor that offers a free 30 day trial? In a few years Apple will have to compete with Google's app store and then Apple will change the policy.
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Opera Browser Not Allowed in iPhone App Store
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This kind of stuff will continue until Google's Andriod becomes wide spread. Apple has changed policy in the past due to direct competition. One example is the 30 day free download evaluation of Aperture. What other Apple pro apps can you download and try for free? Which other Apple pro apps have a direct competitor that offers a free 30 day trial? In a few years Apple will have to compete with Google's app store and then Apple will change the policy.
I am not sure you understood - I wasn't talking about Desktop Opera Browser and I wasn't talking about Proxy settings that the Desktop version of Opera has.
I was talking about Mobile Opera Mini - it doesn't function without the Opera proxy and that is the only option that you don't get to change. See here for more info.
Ahahahahahahahahahahaha. Right. Did you know my refrigerator is also cheese when put next to a glass of orange juice?
I could understand it if web-browser-based apps were the point of the iPhone - Apple could rightly insist on a consistent browser-based user experience. But the fact is, most 'important' web apps now have a native iPhone client app.
Companies are already gladly writing specific code for their platform SDK, so they don't need to 'compete' with other browsers.
Companies are already gladly writing specific code for their platform SDK, so they don't need to 'compete' with other browsers.
Copy and Paste
MMS
Push Technology...
Safari works just fine for quick lookups on the road
Apple allowed Google Earth, which replaces Maps for me. Sometimes Apple seems to contradict themselves in my opinion.
Anyway, I don't get why they are being anti-competitive. Why shouldn't I be allowed to use what I think is the best Web browser on the platform? You're giving yours out for free! Who cares if I use another one?
Anyway, I don't get why they are being anti-competitive. Why shouldn't I be allowed to use what I think is the best Web browser on the platform? You're giving yours out for free! Who cares if I use another one?
Microsoft didn't even stop other browsers working on Windows, they just made sure that theirs was the default - and look at the trouble that caused them.
Apple had better be very careful that they can justify their actions without any doubt (ie. prove without doubt that they're not trying to prevent competition with the Safari browser).
They're going to have to allow other browsers sooner or later or I suspect there will be trouble.
it's my party, and I'll cry if I want to...
...and the reason we have Android is what?.... so that folk who can't read the SDK have a choice..... OMG! I can't run IE6 on an AsusEEE54921
OMFG
...you kill me!
The NY Times profiles Opera Software, the company that distributes the Opera browser for multiple platforms. According to the article, however, Apple is not allowing an iPhone version of the browser into the App Store:Gruber speculates that it could have to do with the Javascript interpreter or, more clearly, that Apple has been restricting apps that compete directly with some of their built in iPhone apps such as Safari.
Apple has been criticized for its decision to restrict certain applications from the App Store, and this suggests users shouldn't expect any other web browser alternatives (such as Firefox) to appear in the App Store at any point in the near future.
Article Link: Opera Browser Not Allowed in iPhone App Store
...and the reason we have Android is what?.... so that folk who can't read the SDK have a choice..... OMG! I can't run IE6 on an AsusEEE54921
OMFG
...you kill me!
It is different, several reasons:
1. You can shop around cell service providers and find the one that doesn't cripple its phones
2. You can buy the phone out of contract, leaving you with a fully functional phone
Quite a few cell phone providers do have bad reputations for overly crippling their phones.
Well i (personally) see it like this. Apple created the iphone, therefor they should be able to do anything they wish with it. People who buy one are never promised access to other browsers, they know exactly what they are buying into.
And to the person that said if people are aware of what their running whats the harm? Id agree with that, except the majority of consumers are arguably technologically impaired. You'd have tons of complaints with performance if flash was running, and most of those people wouldnt be aware its because of flash.
Just like with all browsers, this is togglable, and is not set to default by an initial install of Opera. A user has to set that, otherwise it isn't done at all (I just went through a clean install of Opera 9.62, and this option was not set).
going off of what you had posted and the title of the thread. Opera isn't open source, so going by your logic, it shouldn't crash as bad as you'd think it would..
But since you know better, all is good.
BL.
He's talking about Opera Mobile which is very different from Opera. It requires the use of a proxy to do its job.
1. Right, and I can equally go to another provider that does offer the browser I want?
2. But will that fully functional phone work on their network? And is it supported? Isn't that similar to jailbreaking an iPhone?
-Kevin
Huh. I don't really care what Apple does about their competition, but I would like a browser with a 'find' or 'save page' feature... Maybe even a 'copy to email' feature.
Ditto. Microsoft has been getting it every which way for anti-competitive practices. I don't see why Apple is exempt.
and Opera's PR stunts continues....
How's that desktop version coming along?
Oh that's right, no one uses it, and web devs sure as heck don't even think about it.
No wonder.
How's that desktop version coming along?
Oh that's right, no one uses it, and web devs sure as heck don't even think about it.
No wonder.
That's lame... Apple should get Safari to be accepted as primary browser by making it good, not by making it the only one readily available. Sounds like another software company...
Mobile Opera is pretty awesome actually.
I used to use it before the iPhone came out.
(I love your sig btw haha
)
Compared to what?
And my safari doesnt crash, and is as fast as I would expect from a mobile device using 802.11g.