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Opera Browser Not Allowed in iPhone App Store

What I think Apple should do, is simply apply two levels to apps on the iPhone. One level is the fully sanctioned, profit-sharing app store level, as now. The second level would be that the app can be downloaded and installed, but does not get the Apple stamp of approval, and when you attempt to install it on the iPhone you get a big, clear warning that 'If this application is run, it may open your iPhone to insecurities, bugs or other undesirable consequences for which we cannot be held responsible > touch to accept and continue / cancel'.

Then if something causes your battery life to go south, or something leaves you insecure, or an alternative to one of the bundled apps messes up your phone, it was the user's choice, and the user's problem.

Would anyone be happy if the only apps we could install on the mac were Apple-sanctioned ones?! Well, probably. But it seems heavy-handed.
 
crisss1205 said:
Yes they are the largest music retailer in the US but the person you responded to is over the pond in the UK so he wouldn't know how it is i the US.
Apple is a US company, so don't compare Apple music share's with the UK.
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Same difference:
“iTunes is the world’s number one online music store, with more than 150 million downloads and over 70 percent market share in the US and UK.”
And that was in 2004!
 
This blows, but I think it's probably more for platform security issues, and not because Apple doesn't want it to compete. Apple should be explicit and make a public statement to the effect, though, because Opera and Firefox are pretty significant rejections.

I'd rather have Firefox mobile on this thing than Safari, though... I think it'd be faster at displaying more of the page. I think desktop Safari waits longer than Firefox before it starts displaying partial content, and I'll bet the same would be true of the mobile versions.
 
NT1440 said:
I agree that the more open source the iphone gets, the more were going to hear people bitching about crashes and other things of that nature. Apple is doing this to ensure that everything works so people wont bitch.

Unfortuneatly, they bitch anyway.
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i fully agree with you. apple knows what's best for us.
so we should all just **** and have collective orgasm.

thanks.
 
They ought to take Apple to court. Preventing competition is not a good enough reason to reject apps.
 
chagla said:
i fully agree with you. apple knows what's best for us.
so we should all just **** and have collective orgasm.

thanks.
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I never said apple knows whats best for us. Apple knows whats best for apple.
 
Why is Apple doing this?!? Letting Opera in will be a good thing for everyone. If Opera turns out to be better than Safari then Apple's engineers will have more motivation to innovate.

Tsk tsk tsk, Apple. If you let people install Finder alternatives and non-Safari browsers in your Macs, why won't you let Opera in?

Apple deserves an anti-trust lawsuit.
 
What will make you happy?

Just a year ago, we had NO App Store, and people were complaining. Now Apple sets up a "store" that is all too convenient and critically acclaimed and yet people still complain. If you opened up a store, lets say on 3rd and L St., wouldn't you want the right to sell whatever the hell you wanted to sell?

Apple is distributing it and built the platform in the first place, they have the right.
 
I've used IE, Opera, Firefox & Safari (in that order) on the desktop. ..I stayed away from IE because of security issues. I started using Opera; then I went on to Firefox cause it was soooooo popular. But then Right back to Opera. It's just so intuitive. Granted you can add a lot of functionality to Firefox but just being able to right click & "Duplicate Tab" or enlarge my page to read fine print via the percentage drop down list is a big plus for me. (& I don't have to look for plugins... though some people like that)

With that in mind I just know Opera for iPhone would be really slick! In fact it seems like they come out with a new build every too weeks on the desktop! (well not really but so it seems) they are always innovating. ("Speed Dial" anyone?)

As for whether Apple should allow Opera on iPhone or not? hmmmm I can't see how it would hurt them. Apple's engineers are smart... maybe it will jump start them into creating a better Safari?
 
From a business standpoint its a no brainer to deny Opera however as the consumer I would strongly prefer to have a choice of which browser to use on the iPhone.

I hope both Opera and the Mozilla team release versions of their browsers in .ipa format so those of us with jailbroken devices can decide for ourselves.
 
opera is simply an amazing browser. blazing fast. very secure and dare I say many of its features were ported to firefox.

i use it on my linux, windows, blackberry, and windows mobile phone.
too bad iphone users will be missing a great browser.

if you haven't tried it, i highly recommend it. opera is available for every conceiveable operating system.

http://opera.com
 
really isn't a surprise but come on apple. Its duplicate functionality but safari on the iphone is not stable especially since v2.0
 
I still don't think I get the whole anti-competitive argument. There's plenty of competition. It's called other phones. If you don't like what the iPhone has to offer (or not offer) then buy something else.
 
Is it really a big deal anyway?

The news says "Opera mini", not "Opera". I know that the full version of Opera are great. I also have "Opera DS" which is slow but still amazing considering the limitations of the hardware. But is Opera mini better than Safari for the iPhone/iPod touch? Is it really worth all this debate? :confused:
 
There already are alternatives to Safari in the App Store.
Cooliris and 1Password are two I know offhand.
Maybe the problem was with Presto, or OBML.
I don't think we really know.
I'm sure Tetzchner was not forthcoming regarding the rejection.
 
Mobile Safari crashed minimum 4 times TODAY while using it on the google mobile for less than 10min!
You SUCK apple!!!
 
NT1440 said:
Compared to what?

And my safari doesnt crash, and is as fast as I would expect from a mobile device using 802.11g.
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If I start using multiple tabs (3+), it's far more likely to crash.

As for speed, it's slower than my old-ass 12" PowerBook G4 running Leopard, which is basically a benchmark for Fail. If it's not faster, it's unacceptable.
 
Yvan256 said:
The news says "Opera mini", not "Opera". I know that the full version of Opera are great. I also have "Opera DS" which is slow but still amazing considering the limitations of the hardware. But is Opera mini better than Safari for the iPhone/iPod touch? Is it really worth all this debate? :confused:
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the irony in your question is that now we'll never know how opera mini could've been on the iphone. otherwise, i can attest to it being a swift little browser on a bunch of SE's i've tried it on. frankly, the first time i saw it (on an SE s700, opera mini was in an early beta back then) i was blown away by its usability and responsivness.
 
Don't you see what is going on? This is called marketing. Pick one of the hottest products/items in world and hitch your trailer to it, whether it be good or bad publicity. Either way, by releasing this news story, Opera has very effectively increased traffic to their site and has increased the amount of people now downloading and installing Opera.

Opera's dev team can't play naive and pretend like the didn't know Apple wouldn't allow Opera on the iPhone.
 
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